Re: [FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

2022-12-28 Thread David Eric Smith
Citing back to Owen: Gil is right. The universe could be infinite, and it is at the least big enough that we have no positive evidence so far that it isn’t infinite. If it were infinitely large, but only finitely old, then at any given place, the only photons that could yet have sped past us

Re: [FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

2022-12-28 Thread Gillian Densmore
Hmmm. Are we? I am skeptical it is. Ok so if it's not...how would we even check? Gravity lensing and guesstimate? On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, 10:18 AM Tom Johnson wrote: > Ah, but are we sure the expansion IS uniform? > > === > Tom Johnson > Inst. for Analytic Journalism > Santa

Re: [FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

2022-12-28 Thread Tom Johnson
Ah, but are we sure the expansion IS uniform? === Tom Johnson Inst. for Analytic Journalism Santa Fe, New Mexico 505-577-6482 === On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, 10:01 AM Gillian Densmore wrote: > AH! egad, that's so large and far away I can almost get my head

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Re: [FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

2022-12-28 Thread Gillian Densmore
AH! egad, that's so large and far away I can almost get my head around it. lol no wonder we want infra-red. that's practically going backwards by then On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 10:57 AM Roger Frye wrote: > They are shifted so far to the red that when they reach us, they are stop > lights. > > On

Re: [FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

2022-12-28 Thread Roger Frye
They are shifted so far to the red that when they reach us, they are stop lights. On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 9:42 AM Gillian Densmore wrote: > Same Q! My guess is what they meen is that stuff is reely far away so it'd > be like looking at events that had happened but we can catchup to the show >

Re: [FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

2022-12-28 Thread Gillian Densmore
(using a bad analogy) and those photons record what's going on like a on going WEBB stream? so we now have essentially the ability to see old streams (as it were) from photons any anything else that can get a snippet of that. and basically light does take time to show up. it's not exactly

Re: [FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

2022-12-28 Thread Frank Wimberly
My guess: stars, including the Sun, are constantly producing and emitting new photons. This happens as a result of fusion and other processes. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, 9:21 AM Owen Densmore wrote: > In aj

Re: [FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

2022-12-28 Thread Gillian Densmore
Same Q! My guess is what they meen is that stuff is reely far away so it'd be like looking at events that had happened but we can catchup to the show because of distance somehow due to lag essentially. Someone that knows more about this then I do hopefully has a much more concrete answer. Fwiw

[FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

2022-12-28 Thread Owen Densmore
In aj NYTimes article: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/27/science/astronomy-webb-telescope.html ..there is the usual discussion on "seeing back to the first several millennia". But, and be kind, why haven't these photons already sped past us? I suppose it is because the exanssion is uniformly