Re: [FRIAM] Off the wall question about turbulence

2023-11-28 Thread Carl Tollander
_ > c...@simtable.com > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 2:06 PM Carl Tollander wrote: > >> Go up on roof, make sure drain vent is not clogged by debris. Improper >> or badly installed drain venting slows things down a lot. >> >> Carl >> >> >> On

Re: [FRIAM] Off the wall question about turbulence

2023-11-28 Thread Carl Tollander
Go up on roof, make sure drain vent is not clogged by debris. Improper or badly installed drain venting slows things down a lot. Carl On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 7:42 AM Prof David West wrote: > When the washer drains, water flows for a bit, then you hear the pipe > filling up and water comes

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-03 Thread Carl Tollander
Gregory Benford's "Galactic Center Saga". Greg Bear's "Darwin's Radio" and "The Way" series. Benford, Bear, and David Brin also extended Asimov's "Foundation" series - more stuff actually happens Larry Niven's "Ringworld" and all its spinoffs and prequels, anything with the character Louis Wu in

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Cool AI Tools of the Week - ChatGPT Website Builder & More!

2023-03-25 Thread Carl Tollander
Then there's the app that writes an AI newsletter, invents aspirational AI apps based on what you clicked on in the last newsletter, thereby creating a broader market for their development. On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 10:51 PM Tom Johnson wrote: > They just keep comin' > I haven't tested any of

Re: [FRIAM] Who wrote the essay?

2022-12-17 Thread Carl Tollander
Inconsistent use of punctuation. Run-on sentences. Human, or a chatbot that's trying too hard to look human. C On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 11:39 AM Nicholas Thompson wrote: > I think it's a human. No selfrespecting bot could write that badly. > > n > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 11:09 PM Tom

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

2022-12-13 Thread Carl Tollander
Sabine Hossenfelder holds forth on fusion and measures of break-even. Over a year old, but still http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2021/10/how-close-is-nuclear-fusion-power.html On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 4:37 PM glen wrote: > That's why I asked. I guess I'll assume DT means both deuterium

Re: [FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

2022-11-04 Thread Carl Tollander
OK, then. Ken Nordine on Time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVYpCdY4Y_0 On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:33 PM Gillian Densmore wrote: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Protection_Act#:~:text=The%20bill%20received%20bipartisan%20support,consent%20on%20March%2015%2C%202022. > steeeve >

Re: [FRIAM] signal and noise

2022-09-09 Thread Carl Tollander
It might be instructive to shop for microphones. Many studio audio components (e.g. mics) have a "noise floor", roughly the amount of noise added to the gain structure (e.g. some sequence of components, mics, preamps, etc) so the "mixer" can tell where to profitably apply various add-ons

Re: [FRIAM] Urgent care with short wait?

2022-08-29 Thread Carl Tollander
CVS at Cerrillos and Siler has a walk-in clinic . On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 1:34 PM Gillian Densmore wrote: > [redacted]!! > In short was prescribed two kinds of antibiotics but have a bad reaction a > cream one. ALas my doctor is busy. And Presby has no Appointements. > Where all would have a

Re: [FRIAM] self-care

2022-07-12 Thread Carl Tollander
Well, hypocrisy is not an argument. Our reach exceeds our grasp, is all. C On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 12:53 PM glen wrote: > What's a bit bizarre about Sarbajit's accusation of hypocrisy is the > overwhelming diversity of US Government components. It would make sense to > accuse a single

Re: [FRIAM] A million year old driving assistant

2022-04-24 Thread Carl Tollander
Hari Seldon from Asimov's Foundation? On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 13:05 Marcus Daniels wrote: > But I just don’t understand the metaphor. These are separate sensor > suite and software that was added by some manufacturers long after motor > vehicles had become popular. > > I think of emotions as

Re: [FRIAM] To repeat is rational, but to wander is transcendent

2022-03-29 Thread Carl Tollander
Viscosity, I hear second hand (Adam Savage on YT), is more context dependent. On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 2:05 PM Eric Charles wrote: > That is a bizarre distinction, that can only be maintained within some > sort of odd, contextless discussion. If you tell me the number of atoms of > a

Re: [FRIAM] Enamine

2022-03-11 Thread Carl Tollander
>>The maximalist MAD scenario is a made-up thing. As are orange juice futures. Useful as a trade instrument, but you don't want to take delivery. C On Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 08:18 Marcus Daniels wrote: > One issue seems to be classified tech. > > >

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: International firm to invest $254M in ABQ hydrogen factory -- ABQ Journal

2022-03-10 Thread Carl Tollander
Not to be too much of a hydrogen fanboi here, but it looks like we would for many generation cases still be ahead compared to where we are with fossil. http://gcep.stanford.edu/pdfs/i6W09tDtK-48PTmzHazOuw/3.2.3.Jacobson_Golden_07.pdf My impression is that the transport and leakage issue is one

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: International firm to invest $254M in ABQ hydrogen factory -- ABQ Journal

2022-03-10 Thread Carl Tollander
I see no problem with hydrogen aircraft and think they are likely a Good Thing. I think the hydrogen-electric engines are probably closer than the hydrogen burning engines. UH seems to be mostly about packaging and delivering the stuff at scale and trying to drum up markets for that. However

Re: [FRIAM] Enamine

2022-03-09 Thread Carl Tollander
Hmm, 1860's. Treaty of Aigun, and others at the time, regarded by China as one of many unequal treaties, since they were imposed on it when it was weakened by internal issues. Historically, China would only consider negotiating treaties among equals, maybe now, since Russia and China are best

Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics

2022-01-25 Thread Carl Tollander
Uh-oh. Paging Greg Bear. https://phys.org/news/2022-01-sars-cov-spike-protein-human-endogenous.html On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 8:17 AM Marcus Daniels wrote: > Frank writes: > > < Two problems, "God" has tricks for making babies. As for 1 child per > couple didn't they "terminate" some babies

Re: [FRIAM] Complexity, Ottawa and Nanotechnology (was Re: Struck me as funny)

2022-01-24 Thread Carl Tollander
Merle, go to phys.org and click on the Nanotechnology tab. https://phys.org/nanotech-news/ . Free, as in birds. Short, usually accessible, articles on what's current research, sort of on the level of Science News. The article usually wind up with a please-fund-me paragraph on potential

Re: [FRIAM] best microphone?

2021-11-05 Thread Carl Tollander
Generally, microphones don't do background noise processing (there are probably some all-in-one mics that try but then you end up committed to the associated app). See below for thoughts on Zoom and noise. Anyhow, be forewarned, audio is a rabbit hole, with near it-seems-like-infinite

Re: [FRIAM] Kill it!

2021-08-24 Thread Carl Tollander
So, several avenues present. Import (bee visa) Japanese bees to teach American bees. Import (bee immigration) Japanese bees to supplant American bees. Send American bees to Japan to study Japanese bee methods in context. All this assumes some notion of bee culture transfer as opposed to

Re: [FRIAM] Computer Monitors now?

2021-08-24 Thread Carl Tollander
cus Daniels > wrote: > >> I got a Dell S3220DGF that was on sale a while back and I think was a >> good value. >> >> A better value than my Samsung Odyssey 9 which is still the best! >> >> *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Carl Tollander >> *Sent:* Tuesd

Re: [FRIAM] Kill it!

2021-08-24 Thread Carl Tollander
As far as the Japanese Hornets go, they hang in packs of 17 or so, send out scouts to find honeybee hives, attack the hives and behead all the bees. All. If you are unlucky enough to encounter and kill one, it releases a hormone that draws all it's compatriots to you. They will not be pleased,

Re: [FRIAM] Computer Monitors now?

2021-08-24 Thread Carl Tollander
Best Buy, Wall in back of the computer sales desk, to your right as you come in the front door. See them in action. There's often a sale. Viewsonic is still good. There are some small TVs that can be monitors. Make sure your computer can drive the thing. Just because the connectors fit

Re: [FRIAM] why, me, o lord?!

2021-07-18 Thread Carl Tollander
nt one. >> >> -J. >> >> >> Original message >> From: Carl Tollander >> Date: 7/18/21 07:00 (GMT+01:00) >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] why, me, o lord?!

Re: [FRIAM] why, me, o lord?!

2021-07-17 Thread Carl Tollander
Fan bearings. Keep it cool. Possibly some debris in the fan that a service person could blow out with compressed air. On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 22:50 wrote: > Anybody, > > > > My Lenovo laptop has started making the oddest array of noises. It > started with clunks and chunks and churrs but

Re: [FRIAM] hacker koan

2020-12-04 Thread Carl Tollander
Minsky was simply illustrating you cannot avoid programming without preconceptions. Another: A novice was trying to fix a broken Lisp machine by turning the power off and on. Knight (Tom Knight), seeing what the student was doing, spoke sternly: " You cannot fix a machine by just

Re: [FRIAM] numbers

2020-11-02 Thread Carl Tollander
I invite those who think 87507 to be "poor" to take a Sunday drive through Tierra Contenta or south of the airport/west of 599. Say, out by the polo field. On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 12:27 PM wrote: > Thanks, Glen, I think the relevant data line was POP100, although I don't > know why "100".

Re: [FRIAM] Logo/Ideo/Phono graphic language

2020-10-13 Thread Carl Tollander
and language > and culture; and as insight into why Whorf was right and why he was wrong. > > You might enjoy it. > > davew > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, at 9:45 PM, Carl Tollander wrote: > > Dave, > > Thanks, not there yet.Somewhere between Zen and Shinto, anyhows

Re: [FRIAM] Political compass teest

2020-10-12 Thread Carl Tollander
now you well Carl, but from what I do think I know, you are > clearly *very* independent and *very* considerate of others and their > personal freedoms. That sounds pretty *l*ibertarian to me FWIW. > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 10:18 AM Steve Smith wrote: > > Carl Tollander wrote: &

Re: [FRIAM] Political compass teest

2020-10-12 Thread Carl Tollander
Was momentarily confused. Cerberus is a dog. Cerebus is an aardvark, and a better homunculi than I. On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 11:43 AM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > I know, right? And Cerberus is NOT a good shepherd. I mean, he's a good > deterrent as long as he stands in the doorway. But when he heads

Re: [FRIAM] Political compass teest

2020-10-12 Thread Carl Tollander
d their personal freedoms. That sounds pretty *l*ibertarian to me FWIW. On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 10:18 AM Steve Smith wrote: > Carl Tollander wrote: > > -9,-8.1 > But I do think it would depend a bit on the day. > Oddly, never thought of myself as a libertarian. > > I think s

Re: [FRIAM] Political compass teest

2020-10-12 Thread Carl Tollander
-9,-8.1 But I do think it would depend a bit on the day. Oddly, never thought of myself as a libertarian. On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 8:48 AM Marcus Daniels wrote: > There is another aspect of staying behind which puts more weight on > maintaining local (e.g. family and childhood) relationships.

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

2020-09-13 Thread Carl Tollander
Yes to Ikegami's "Bonds of Civility"and her other book "Taming of the Samurai". Carl On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 4:14 PM David Eric Smith wrote: > This idea of places where people of different walks “encounter each other” > — or even better have something meaningful to do with each other, has an

Re: [FRIAM] Masks and Face Shields

2020-08-26 Thread Carl Tollander
Owen, the masks from https://rendallco.com/ seem roomier than others I've tried. The "Sentry" feels a bit bigger than the "Ace", though I like both. A bit on the pricey side. Carl On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 9:36 AM Owen Densmore wrote: > I probably missed it, but: Where can you find

Re: [FRIAM] words for Nick (political-words focused)

2020-08-23 Thread Carl Tollander
Ah, but have you tried kusaya? Carl On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 8:37 PM Prof David West wrote: > The year I lived in Japan, I ate sushi so much that I lost all appetite > for it for a couple of decades. But my acceptance level has returned. It is > quite tasty. I especially like raw tuna. I have

Re: [FRIAM] guidance requested

2020-08-17 Thread Carl Tollander
Ok, there are various mathematician's blogs, but this one is pretty up front with how she thinks. https://www.math3ma.com I particularly appreciate her ability to illustrate her thought processes with diagrams. For examples, I was particularly fond of

[FRIAM] Logic Extremists

2020-06-08 Thread Carl Tollander
Apologies if this will have already been discussed. https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2020/05/10/logic-extremists/#comments - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe

[FRIAM] Virome primer

2020-04-21 Thread Carl Tollander
I'm about to plunge into "Viruses as Complex Adaptive Systems", https://www.amazon.com/Viruses-Complex-Adaptive-Systems-Primers-ebook/dp/B07DR2Q7GP/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1=9780691158846=qs=1587516171=books=1-1 Read Chapter one in Google Books.Seems fascinating and accessible. Seems like

Re: [FRIAM] FW: YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Carl Tollander
New MQL is out. https://www.dhs.gov/publication/st-master-question-list-covid-19 On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 10:50 AM wrote: > > > FRIAMMERS: > > > > "the government cant print money fast enough to save the economy" > > > > I have to say, this made me wonder just exactly what an "economy" is. > > >

[FRIAM] Master Question List

2020-03-28 Thread Carl Tollander
I just love the notion that there IS such a thing. Everyone should have one. https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mql_sars-cov-2_-cleared-for-public-release_2020_03_25.pdf

Re: [FRIAM] wifi repeaters?!

2020-03-25 Thread Carl Tollander
places > around the world. Zoom and Google Meet so far. > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:44 PM Carl Tollander wrote: > >> I did some hunting a couple months back. The Netgear Orbi units looked >> pretty good. If one has the Comcast xfi modem they sell a pack of small >

Re: [FRIAM] wifi repeaters?!

2020-03-24 Thread Carl Tollander
I did some hunting a couple months back. The Netgear Orbi units looked pretty good. If one has the Comcast xfi modem they sell a pack of small plugin gadgets that are cheaper and very easy to configure. Mesh is generally way better than the alternatives. C On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 21:59

Re: [FRIAM] Why is it the last several pandemics have come from bats?

2020-03-17 Thread Carl Tollander
Or, if you want some entertaining sci-fi on similar subject (HERVs and how the CDC political interactions go wonky), "Darwin's Radio". and sequel "Darwin's Children", by Greg Bear. C On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 9:07 PM Carl Tollander wrote: > This, re bats... &g

Re: [FRIAM] Why is it the last several pandemics have come from bats?

2020-03-17 Thread Carl Tollander
This, re bats... TL;DR: 2107 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_KqzArksQU More: 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1=TRVxTBuvChU=emb_logo Carl On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 6:23 PM Gillian Densmore wrote: > Why is it the last several pandemics have come from bats? and what's

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-01 Thread Carl Tollander
Saul Griffith interview on energy flows and climate (mitigation/adaptation). Recommended by John Baez. I think "solve" is a little strong, I'd use "address". https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2019/12/28/how-to-solve-climate-change/ As to the issue of climate models being accurate over time...

[FRIAM] Inflicting complexity

2019-12-27 Thread Carl Tollander
After looking at Tom's ref on FB about teaching Military thinking to 2020 election security infrastructure in democracies ( https://apnews.com/222bd1402c96bc487f5a0a2dc5bff12c?fbclid=IwAR2PSR8UxoSlEoulaar8ITN1vRNRChd34VVgcU6WMNM4vOwnaEmr0eFOsQw ) I recalled an STO (Strategic Technology Office)

Re: [FRIAM] the Commons and Convenience

2019-11-11 Thread Carl Tollander
Trains in Japan. Few folks in the US have any idea, at a visceral level, what a high cognitive price they are paying for their pattern of usage of the automobile. Even if the vehicle doesn't run on gas. Probably not about relative economies, so educating them will likely have little effect.

Re: [FRIAM] the Commons and Convenience

2019-11-11 Thread Carl Tollander
I find that if I have a more economical vehicle, that I'm somehow motivated to drive more. " Fuel Economy" may here be more of a dimensional collapse to a more easily apprehended category. Anyhow Why is that? The hybrid car (RAV4 hybrid) will gradually train me, via feedback availability

Re: [FRIAM] Better self phone plan deals?

2019-11-11 Thread Carl Tollander
My Google Fi (TMobile & Sprint & someothercarrier & Wifi) averaging about 45/mo. Around 27 base with taxes, then $10/GB. It could get up in the 80 buck range if you used a lot of data but they cap the costs (not the data) at 6GB, so I would never pay more than around $90 which is unlikely for

Re: [FRIAM] 1. Is the Equal Sign Overrated? Mathematicians Hash It Out | WIRED (Tom Johnson)

2019-10-14 Thread Carl Tollander
I first became aware of the equality issue from a Barry Mazur paper http://www.math.harvard.edu/~mazur/preprints/when_is_one.pdf . The Robert Goldblatt book "Topoi The Categorical Analysis of Logic" has an honored place on my bookshelf but is mostly beyond me. I keep it because it covers a lot

Re: [FRIAM] Optimization problem

2019-09-20 Thread Carl Tollander
Welding galvanized steel without proper respirators (even outdoors) can kill you. Research this carefully. How about some nice thick wall pvc? Carl On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 17:48 Steven A Smith wrote: > Gary - > > I understand better now... > > I definitely agree that the *most* naive

Re: [FRIAM] Everything she knows...

2019-04-15 Thread Carl Tollander
I first encountered "Cosmic Muffin" in the song "Deteriorata" from the National Lampoon Radio Dinner Album in 1972. Actually heard it on the Dr Demento show. Carl On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:27 AM uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > I've never heard of the Cosmic Muffin. But your description sounds like >

Re: [FRIAM] Android phones

2019-04-15 Thread Carl Tollander
Still happy with my Pixel 1 and Google Fi . C On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 09:53 Gary Schiltz wrote: > Looking for advice on escaping the gravitational well that is the Apple > iOS ecosystem before I reach the event horizon. Hope it isn't too late > already. The hard part seems to be choosing a

[FRIAM] Simpler Spherical Cows

2019-04-10 Thread Carl Tollander
https://phys.org/news/2019-04-microscopic-swimmers-visual-perception-group.html Really paring down the classical flocking rules... C FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to

Re: [FRIAM] Manifold Enthusiasts

2019-03-09 Thread Carl Tollander
Nick, This may help with manifold analogies. Or should I phrase that differently http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/rosetta.pdf . See esp table 1, though most of the paper is probably more than you want. Carl On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 10:20 AM Nick Thompson wrote: > Ok, so: consider a corpse.

Re: [FRIAM] are we how we behave?

2019-03-01 Thread Carl Tollander
OK, Glen, you walked into ta Futurama quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL7e05pClKM Carl On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 6:13 PM glen wrote: > Exactly. The problem is that nobody's honest in their feedback. Friends > are too forgiving. Enemies are too harsh. Frenemies make a nice balance. >

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Math emojis

2019-01-30 Thread Carl Tollander
Well, the emoji post is from a blog of a math grad student trying to make sense of her existence as a math grad student and trying to explain concepts simply. I recommend noodling around her "other" posts...Baez recommended her blog. On Wed, Jan 30, 2019, 17:57 Nick Thompson Well, Ok. I can

[FRIAM] Math emojis

2019-01-30 Thread Carl Tollander
https://www.math3ma.com/blog/math-emojis FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003:

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering weird english words

2018-12-30 Thread Carl Tollander
I got new tires on my car. "Tire" in this sense, may come from "attire", or "clothes, especially fine or formal ones". Thus if we are retired, we are retailored? I like this definition better; we did not stop working, instead we have new "clothes", a la Carlyle's "Sartor Resartus". Carl On

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

2018-08-21 Thread Carl Tollander
Alluvium. Thus, Alluvia. On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 9:53 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote: > Arriving late to the party... how about “branch point” or “branch node”? > Maybe “fork off point” ;-) > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

2018-08-17 Thread Carl Tollander
There's also a book, "Kinematics of Mixing", which was more exciting than it sounds, but it seems to have escaped my bookshelf so I don't have an author handy. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 8:00 PM, Carl Tollander wrote: > If you are in search of a river analogy word, you might lo

Re: [FRIAM] Ok STEM folks, explain?

2018-07-25 Thread Carl Tollander
Sorry try this https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156937272769369=645414368 On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 00:17 Carl Tollander wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/10731093992/posts/1994344690599881/ > > This is local in Santa Fe (Arroyo Chamiso bike trail I think near Chavez

[FRIAM] Ok STEM folks, explain?

2018-07-25 Thread Carl Tollander
https://www.facebook.com/10731093992/posts/1994344690599881/ This is local in Santa Fe (Arroyo Chamiso bike trail I think near Chavez center). Non-flash-flood sandy base is normally flat, about 2 pct grade maybe 4-5 feet below trail. What is the frequency and how does this occur? Why is

Re: [FRIAM] Backkdoor rob

2018-07-24 Thread Carl Tollander
That was a long time ago, but I recall it was mostly OK if a little rubegoldbergian. We had talked about a new line running around the outside. AC units can be had these days that don't draw much. If its more than a simple window unit you would probably need some work done. On Mon, Jul 23,

Re: [FRIAM] Lets try this again reaching out for advice and opinions

2018-07-11 Thread Carl Tollander
Having reasonable experience with presby clinic on St Mike's across from St Vinnie. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 08:20 Gillian Densmore wrote: > I tried asking before. I am going to trust again: > Problems: I do not trust Saint Vincents, want several clubs I can at least > try, I probably need a job

Re: [FRIAM] Climate Change

2017-12-29 Thread Carl Tollander
I would rather, than worry directly about the predictability of the climate models we currently have vs the population/variety/intitial conclusions of researchers from decades ago, that we instead consider a range of climate risks, their consequences, our responses/adaptations, and their

Re: [FRIAM] Downward causation

2017-11-22 Thread Carl Tollander
One of the recurring conundrums of teaching. Finger pointing at the moon On Nov 22, 2017 14:32, "Eric Charles" wrote: > "Is there any way to put those two things together: the abduction thing > and the misattribution thing? " > > I would head in a

[FRIAM] Downward causation

2017-11-18 Thread Carl Tollander
Of interest, also the whole issue... http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/375/2109/20160338 C FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-11-06 Thread Carl Tollander
e 3 models is something like her Dawid fallacy (the > light's better by the lamp post)? Or, perhaps, are you suggesting that > entropy maximization is an example of trying to characterize an entire > space of possibilities and, hence, something Sabine would appreciate? > > > On

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-11-06 Thread Carl Tollander
Hey, don't hold back, Sabine. http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2017/11/how-popper-killed-particle-physics.html?m=1 On Nov 5, 2017 11:09, "┣glen┫" wrote: > OK. So, I hear you saying (please correct me!) that you do see a > similarity in all 3 (England, Smolin, and

Re: [FRIAM] visualization of logic(s)

2017-09-22 Thread Carl Tollander
Check out John Baez's recent work on Azimuth blog C On Sep 22, 2017 17:50, "gⅼеɳ ☣" wrote: > > Given the discussion of logic(s), I imagine a visualization where we take > a language, maybe ZFC, come up with a set of sentences, maybe 100 or so, > and place them on a

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

2017-09-21 Thread Carl Tollander
I live in space, I only work in doubt On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Dear Glen, > > > > I don't know why I am so pissed at Feynman right now but this quote: > > > > *"When you doubt and ask, it gets a little harder to believe. I can live

Re: [FRIAM] The Gerasimov Doctrine - POLITICO Magazine

2017-09-05 Thread Carl Tollander
Recycled John Boyd? On Sep 5, 2017 09:33, "Tom Johnson" wrote: > Complexity Theory comes to geopolitics. > > http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/05/ > gerasimov-doctrine-russia-foreign-policy-215538 > > TJ > === > Tom Johnson -

Re: [FRIAM] well..so much for watching the ecipse in person

2017-08-21 Thread Carl Tollander
;> >> On Aug 21, 2017 9:20 AM, "Steven A Smith" <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote: >> >>> With or without the eclipse, we can still admire the fireflies as our >>> lifeblood oozes into the ground! >>> >>> On 8/21/17 8:54 AM, Carl Tolla

Re: [FRIAM] well..so much for watching the ecipse in person

2017-08-21 Thread Carl Tollander
"Ieyasu says 'wait' " On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > If this junk cloudy weather keeps up. Won't see a damn thing other thank > depressing clouds and a reminder the roof is leakingagain. Oh clear > skys they saidahahahahahahahahahaha

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

2017-08-07 Thread Carl Tollander
Aug 7, 2017, at 9:54 PM, Carl Tollander <c...@plektyx.com> wrote: > > It seems to me that there are many here in the US who are not entirely on > board with Asimov's First Law of Robotics, at least insofar as it may apply > to themselves, so I suspect notions of "

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

2017-08-07 Thread Carl Tollander
It seems to me that there are many here in the US who are not entirely on board with Asimov's First Law of Robotics, at least insofar as it may apply to themselves, so I suspect notions of "reining it in" are probably not going to fly. On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez

Re: [FRIAM] Janus colloids

2017-07-10 Thread Carl Tollander
Another attention issue https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-library-of-heaven On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Carl Tollander <c...@plektyx.com> wrote: > Well, initially I was reminded of Bruce Sterling's novel "Distraction", in > which chemical manipulation of l

Re: [FRIAM] Janus colloids

2017-07-10 Thread Carl Tollander
Well, initially I was reminded of Bruce Sterling's novel "Distraction", in which chemical manipulation of low levels of attention in neurons (The App) reestablished a kind of involuntary multi-camerality. OTOH, just about everything these days initially reminds me of "Distraction". Howsoever,

Re: [FRIAM] semiotics, again?

2017-06-05 Thread Carl Tollander
Seems like Kanji would qualify as such an exploration. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji particularly where they talk about different "readings". (also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_characters for a broader situating explanation) Somewhat sideways, one could look also at the

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

2017-05-25 Thread Carl Tollander
Metamaterials. Topological insulators. On May 24, 2017 6:59 PM, "Russ Abbott" wrote: > Are there any good examples of a complex system that doesn't involve > biological organisms (including human beings)? > >

Re: [FRIAM] re-use achieved!

2017-03-30 Thread Carl Tollander
Well, several things. First, you can now better preserve your mistakes in detail and access them for analysis so that you can learn from them. Second of course are the aforementioned advances that enable you to land the thing (though this may be oversold). Third I think is that those advances

Re: [FRIAM] very cool stuff

2017-03-09 Thread Carl Tollander
Metamaterials are much neglected in our discussions. https://phys.org/search/?search=metamaterial Possibly some thoughts to be had around ABM and 3D printing. My own favorite metamaterials in the acoustic realm are wood and hides, which kind of "print" themselves. Carl On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-24 Thread Carl Tollander
Hell hath no fury as those who presume to speak for another... On Feb 23, 2017 11:29 PM, "Nick Thompson" wrote: > All— > > > > If you want to find the Dylan Roof key on your own emotional piano, think > about the last time you indulged yourself in road rage.

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-16 Thread Carl Tollander
regions of every shape and size. This speaks I think to my notion of the importance of development and there is probably some analog to birdsong. C On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:19 AM, Carl Tollander <c...@plektyx.com> wrote: > Well, there's order, duration, frequency and a bunch of othe

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-16 Thread Carl Tollander
what > degree? > > > > Am I over stretching the term? > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > >

Re: [FRIAM] What does it mean to say that it will probably rain tomorrow?

2017-02-16 Thread Carl Tollander
Well, I think the weather forecast does not particularly care about your particular location. It cares about what area you are in where they can make statements. So, the statement that it may rain in Santa Fe with a 50% probability either means that in some larger region of which your specific

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-16 Thread Carl Tollander
Many birds do tend to migrate, so wondering what "stable environment" means here. Also thinking there is at play the developmental environment (extended time of egg-to-bird-of-the-now) of the bird, as well as the outer moment-of-the-song environment. How does one talk about developmental

Re: [FRIAM] they're here

2017-01-10 Thread Carl Tollander
https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Documents/pubs/Perdix%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > > New Mexico's own... > > [image: 7th Sigma by [Gould, Steven]] >

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Carl Tollander
I'm more on the "given that 'common understandings' itself can be fraught, given a that 'deep linguistic structure' may be problematic (ie not so fruitful as we may hope), let's figure out what can you do now" sort of frame of mind. For example, Sabine might talk about issues with "emergent

Re: [FRIAM] Autocracy: Rules for Survival | by Masha Gessen | NYR Daily | The New York Review of Books

2016-12-04 Thread Carl Tollander
S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl > Tollander > *Sent:* Sunday, Decemb

Re: [FRIAM] Autocracy: Rules for Survival | by Masha Gessen | NYR Daily | The New York Review of Books

2016-12-04 Thread Carl Tollander
Got this from an link from the Hoffman article in the Atlantic on "reality". Regardless of the niftiness of the paper, I think it's interesting that somebody is using games to model how truth has come to fare so badly in our politics. Talks up some varieties of realism, so, hi, Nick.

Re: [FRIAM] Handyman?

2016-11-15 Thread Carl Tollander
Hi Gil, If I can find some time to advise, fine, but I'm mostly out of the Handyman biz just now. Best, Carl On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > Good morning Friam! > > I don't know if my question went through. I also don't know if this is a >

Re: [FRIAM] enablors vs disruptors

2016-10-17 Thread Carl Tollander
Well, there's the concrete truck and then there's the jackhammer. On Oct 17, 2016 1:24 PM, "Marcus Daniels" wrote: > It depends on whether, like David, you point to liberalism as the threat > to individual freedom and productivity, or the momentum of conservativism > and

Re: [FRIAM] Old Santa Fe Trail Garage

2016-08-16 Thread Carl Tollander
Anything with transmissions go to A1. On Aug 16, 2016 8:34 AM, "Pamela McCorduck" wrote: > I haven’t used it for a while, but a friend does, and finds them very > competent for run-of-the-mill things. > > On Aug 15, 2016, at 11:24 PM, Nick Thompson

Re: [FRIAM] A New Society for the Study of Cultural Evolution

2015-06-29 Thread Carl Tollander
Given the name, I'd feel a bit more comfy if there were greater representation from biology or, gods forbid, genetics...also, no phenomenologists (e.g. Sabine) out there. Appendix 4 in https://evolution-institute.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Final-CE-Conceptual-Framework-Mar-4-2015.pdf is

[FRIAM] Quantum Criticality

2015-04-16 Thread Carl Tollander
From Phys.org, we are reminded that the Stu paper he mentioned in his wedtech talk has been out for a month now. http://arxiv.org/abs/1502.06880 Some commentary about the paper on phys.org http://phys.org/news/2015-04-quantum-criticality-life-proteins.html Quantum Criticality is hot these

Re: [FRIAM] metaphor and talking across skill levels

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Tollander
This may throw something (light?) on the issue. http://cheng.staff.shef.ac.uk/morality/morality.pdf The reason I'm tossing this in may not become apparent until a ways into it, when mathematical morality notions are used to address abstraction. From my own perspective, I swap in

Re: [FRIAM] NM economy and irony

2015-02-19 Thread Carl Tollander
Bit early for cherry blossoms. On 2/18/15 2:26 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote: At a quiet little lunch a few weeks ago with the ED of Creative Santa Fe, I learned that many of the powers that be are putting resources into turning Santa Fe into a mini Silicon Valley. Put that in your pipe and

Re: [FRIAM] .+++.------.--------.+. was: Faber, Sapiens, or Ludens?

2015-02-16 Thread Carl Tollander
I thought it was a high-level dance notation at first. On 2/16/15 2:18 PM, Steve Smith wrote: Great throwdown on all points Glen - Of course, I tend toward the opposite. I enjoy describing things in unnatural languages, which makes me an enemy of all 3 types. p.s. That also means,

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