Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

2023-01-03 Thread Steve Smith
will get old though... On 1/3/23 12:08, Steve Smith wrote: What part of telomeric erosion/degradation/consumption and/or accumulated genetic damage via toxins and ionizing radiation (over a lifetime)seems like pseudoscience?  I'm probably missing your point. On 1/3/23 11:01 AM, glen wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] keep getting mice.

2023-01-03 Thread Steve Smith
ght not be more than a minor annoyance? Mouse-flux is at least as annoying as Daylight Savings time changes...   but a source of endless discussion nevertheless! _ Cody Smith _ c...@simtable.com On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 2:18 PM Steve Smith wrote: Gil -  To misquote Leonard Cohe

Re: [FRIAM] keep getting mice.

2023-01-03 Thread Steve Smith
infiltrate...  but their reproduction rate is pretty extreme and one family can become dozens in a short time. On 1/3/23 2:47 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: Steve, those are all great tips. I'll run a fine tooth come through the house. Their's this area by the coffee maker at the front they try to hide

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

2023-01-03 Thread Steve Smith
d up in close calls with a few last-minute scores ultimately declaring the winner? - Steve On 1/3/23 1:31 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: Long a favorite topic of mine. Let me send you a link; almost-surely not the best, but done with ~1min of google searching images: https://journals.plos.org/ploson

Re: [FRIAM] keep getting mice.

2023-01-03 Thread Steve Smith
Gil -  To misquote Leonard Cohen: "There is a crack in everything, that is how the mice get in". I have lived with mouse-flux all of my time in my current (rural)property 20 years).  The mice (and ground squirrels and packrats) in the environs require that I remain vigilant to keep them

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

2023-01-03 Thread Steve Smith
I recently watched a documentary on the animals living in Chernobyl, environs and nearby evacuated villages.   The overall theme was that while there was lots of evidence of genetic damage and mutation in individuals, they were still "healthy populations" of many (all?) species finding new

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

2022-12-30 Thread Steve Smith
ng" vs "optimising"  in my 30s which was a significant relief, and allowed more degrees of freedom in my optimization/satisficing intentions/habits. "Good enough for who it's for" is a much better mantra, IMO than the usual "... for government work". On 12/3

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

2022-12-30 Thread Steve Smith
OPT Cafe is closed as well. What a way to run a business this is peak Family dining out Time. A new phase of customer service seems to have emerged after COVID.   I have ambiguous feelings about it.   Previously I was a little offended by various examples of businesses not catering well at

[FRIAM] Merry Xmas from AI-Art mashup

2022-12-25 Thread Steve Smith
For all you AI-Art wonks...    I especially loved the Frida Kahlo segment... https://twitter.com/jblefevre60/status/1606015214264193028 -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe /

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

2022-12-24 Thread Steve Smith
On 12/23/22 7:47 PM, Prof David West wrote: Instead of a cable - maybe Tesla’s unrealized broadcast technology? I don’t remember the details but he was going to send power from Long Island, via the ionosphere, to light the world expo in Paris. How could that ever go wrong? What kinds of

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

2022-12-22 Thread Steve Smith
content/article/fusion-power-may-run-fuel-even-gets-started https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/12/what-enabled-the-big-boost-in-fusion-energy-announced-this-week/ On 12/13/22 16:23, Steve Smith wrote: I think DT refers simply

Re: [FRIAM] PostHumanism/Modernism/Anthropocene

2022-12-22 Thread Steve Smith
Merle - Steve, I can't open this posthumanism. paper.  Please resend.  Thanks so much. Happy Holidays everyone! I wasn't able to download from Academia without signing up for a paid subscription...   but they seem to let me read papers inline/html... I hope you can as well, I'm guessing

Re: [FRIAM] PostHumanism/Modernism/Anthropocene

2022-12-21 Thread Steve Smith
concrete foundation for a bike lane on piers.  So quiet it would be without the cars.  Bring on the sea level rise! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2022, at 2:43 PM, Steve Smith wrote: Here's my latest positive hit from Academia Countdown to Extinction? - Posthumanism in Science Fi

[FRIAM] PostHumanism/Modernism/Anthropocene

2022-12-20 Thread Steve Smith
Here's my latest positive hit from Academia Countdown to Extinction? - Posthumanism in Science Fiction Raoul Guariguata https://www.academia.edu/2061036/Countdown_to_Extinction_Posthumanism_in_Science_Fiction I could rattle on for pages about my take on this, but the short version is that I

[FRIAM] Academia.edu

2022-12-20 Thread Steve Smith
your own experiences? <https://www.academia.edu/> PREMIUM 62 papersmention Steve Smith Including one Artificial Intelligence paper * Don't miss a single Mention * Track your growing reputation See what academics are saying abou

Re: [FRIAM] For Steve Smith eta all re gadgets reviewing

2022-12-20 Thread Steve Smith
/triplicate shop/hand tools that several dead/retiring men left to me over the last decade or two.   The coming population collapse (next pandemic, next assault-rifle-armed-MAGA temper tantrum, next rogue authoritarion with nuclear codes?) will leave us (or not) all with way more gak than we know

Re: [FRIAM] Who wrote the essay?

2022-12-17 Thread Steve Smith
OK... who will take on the job of training chatGPT with the top dozen FriAM characters and subscribing these digital doppelganger/shadow-selves to the list to weigh in every time their human counterpart is too slow to throw their hat in the ring?   Sounds like a job for Dr. StrangeCartoonLove? 

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

2022-12-16 Thread Steve Smith
e.org/news/nuclear-fusion-nifs-hall-of-mirrors-may-solve-worlds-energy-crisis?SSO=1 https://www.science.org/content/article/fusion-power-may-run-fuel-even-gets-started https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/12/what-enabled-the-big-boost-in-fusion-energy-announced-this-week/

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

2022-12-13 Thread Steve Smith
On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Steve Smith wrote: Great synopsis... thanks. I'm fascinated at how long we've been "on the cusp" of "lighting up" a micro-star in the laboratory. My first awareness was in the early 70s when a Radio Engineer I worked with had just com

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

2022-12-13 Thread Steve Smith
I think DT refers simply to the remaining fraction of Deuterium/Tritium remaining after the reaction event (-4%) without specific accounting for remaining D vs T. My understanding is that D-T  fusion occurs at a lower temperature than D-D but that once fusion commences (starting with D-T),

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

2022-12-13 Thread Steve Smith
s to replace animal and human (and water and wind) labor to lighting up tiny stars for the same purpose. - Steve     "some days just drag on, but the years they just fly by" Awesome. Thanks. I'm still trying to catch up with the QC Wormhole kerfuffle. Who knew Quanta was so click bai

Re: [FRIAM] models

2022-12-09 Thread Steve Smith
with Magister Ludi, Tyson Yunkaporta, Luis Borges and the Venerable Losang Samtang for more perspective and if you are lucky, keep the results to myself. - Steve Those on the other side of the debate contend that these are models, just like the models they typically use in software de

Re: [FRIAM] collective sheepishness

2022-11-22 Thread Steve Smith
Not Sheep, but human societies, have done similar things in our collective past. David Graeber's book, the Origin of Everything, details the multiplicity of organizational and governmental forms and poses the question of how did we get stuck in the one we have now. davew It does seem

Re: [FRIAM] collective sheepishness

2022-11-21 Thread Steve Smith
nalogy)... maybe you or someone else has more insight into what they are saying here and how it fits into the larger body of study? - Steve // -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / T

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: (not) leaving Twitter

2022-11-18 Thread Steve Smith
es and some of the implications for how *relevant* those arcs/combinatorics are for my lifetime and for the choices I am making for myself and those I care about (which ultimately includes "everybody" in some sense)... - Steve On 11/17/22 13:11, Steve Smith wrote: Of

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

2022-11-18 Thread Steve Smith
hread-bend on crypto-losses) I suppose I *should* just gift it to folks I believe are making my community a better place and stand back and watch the magic (black or white or grey) happen? https://farmersmarketinstitute.org/you-can-help/how-to-give

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

2022-11-17 Thread Steve Smith
second class players to the big banks (LANB/Enterprise included).   There are two major bank branches (buildings) evident in Los Alamos, though I couldn't name them).   Credit Unions are now offering Mortgages, they did not last time I took one out (16 years ago). - Steve On 11/17/22 10:46 A

[FRIAM] Fwd: (not) leaving Twitter

2022-11-17 Thread Steve Smith
Of course I did... doh! Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 09:22:48 -0800 From: glen To: Steve Smith I think you intended to send this to the list? On 11/17/22 09:13, Steve Smith wrote: On 11/17/22 9:32

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

2022-11-17 Thread Steve Smith
> > More Billionaire news [sigh]: > > What happened at Alameda Research > https://milkyeggs.com/?p=175 > > On 10/31/22 10:28, Steve Smith wrote: >> Great quote from CDs screed: >> >>      "Every billionaire is a policy failure, b

Re: [FRIAM] For scifi fans

2022-11-10 Thread Steve Smith
he stories and the "story behind the story" blog posts are all open-access? It looks like the Story behind the Story entries ended (or changed thread?) in 2019... - Steve -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-

Re: [FRIAM] Getting Verbed...

2022-11-08 Thread Steve Smith
't believe I wasn't (made?) aware of this back when it all came to a head with their invasion. - Steve On 11/8/22 10:29 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Steve writes: < The one-world-order/globalism that multinational industry, religion, and politics has been flirting with for millenia now seems

Re: [FRIAM] Getting Verbed...

2022-11-08 Thread Steve Smith
other people and be in campaign mode all the time I get news'd a retarded poloticioned (so poloticion.) your a senator that's 900 years old acting like a 3 year old eh? congrats on being a waste of air. On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 2:47 PM Gillian Densmore mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com>> wr

[FRIAM] Getting Verbed...

2022-11-07 Thread Steve Smith
ource and open protocol to your weirdo subculture. We just don't have to link to you. Don't think 'twitter-like'. Think 'decentralized'. On November 6, 2022 5:51:40 PM EST, Steve Smith wrote: Trying to understand BookWyrm vs StoryGraph vs GoodReads and Twitter vs Mastadon (and beyond),

Re: [FRIAM] Essentialism, Praedicamenta, Katēgoriai and Category Theory?

2022-11-07 Thread Steve Smith
SG wrote: FWIW, related to you're wquery, my tabs open on my ECP-SJC flight are related to attempting to formalize my babble of "The Dual of a Model" in bidirectional path tracing. "Opposite Category" with associated links is my current dive :-)

[FRIAM] Essentialism, Praedicamenta, Katēgoriai and Category Theory?

2022-11-07 Thread Steve Smith
In my fumbling about in Essentialism,  I backed into the (implied to me) question of whether Aristotle's /Katēgoriai/ in any way presaged or set the stage for the formal mathematics of Category Theory and if his /Praedicamenta/ was in some way an Ontology of Epistemology? I'm guessing that

Re: [FRIAM] gone Meta on Twitter, GoodReads, etc.

2022-11-07 Thread Steve Smith
uot;. On November 6, 2022 5:51:40 PM EST, Steve Smith wrote: Trying to understand BookWyrm vs StoryGraph vs GoodReads and Twitter vs Mastadon (and beyond), I found this aggregator of alternative recommendations: https://alternativeto.net/ which doesn't necessarily solv

[FRIAM] gone Meta on Twitter, GoodReads, etc.

2022-11-06 Thread Steve Smith
n about this until the release yesterday: https://joinbookwyrm.com/ On 11/2/22 14:52, Steve Smith wrote: On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: Thanks, Glen. It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url that one could use to name a book that only conveyed th

Re: [FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

2022-11-05 Thread Steve Smith
, 2022 at 10:18 AM Steve Smith wrote: Good one Carl/Ken ... And don't even get me started on converting calendars and clocks to *metric* (y'all know how much I prefer fractions over decimals for everyday measures and calculations). As  a child, WWV was one of the very few

Re: [FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

2022-11-05 Thread Steve Smith
ke rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Or maybe complaining about how a reporter discussing Putin mispronounces "nukular" ... an odd thing to complain about while the ICBM heads your way. On 11/4/22 15:17, Steve Smith wrote: > &

Re: [FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

2022-11-04 Thread Steve Smith
/In June 2022, the U.S. House failed to pass the bill, which is now stalled and scheduled to expire in December./ /Let the debate resume in March 2023./ On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:10 PM Steve Smith wrote: as we all know I'm no fan of semi-annual clock changes... and I t

[FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

2022-11-04 Thread Steve Smith
as we all know I'm no fan of semi-annual clock changes... and I thought the Sunshine Act would put an end to that nonsense even if did fall on the "wrong side" with a year-round DST timesqew.   Looks like it is going to fail despite

Re: [FRIAM] books by cheng and chang

2022-11-02 Thread Steve Smith
and realistic realists are ... *special*?  While some may prefer "turtles all the way down" sometimes just a few turtles deep suffices? - Steve PS... couldn't help hearing/reading "Cheech" on the first reading of this thread. -- rec -- On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM gl

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

2022-11-01 Thread Steve Smith
sage length.  Having models of hundreds of millions of individuals’ impulses could be valuable to all sorts of organizations. On Oct 31, 2022, at 10:28 AM, Steve Smith wrote:  Great quote from CDs screed: "Every billionaire is a policy failure, but every billionaire is also a fac

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

2022-10-31 Thread Steve Smith
s are here: fediscience.org/@cas_group berlin.social/@JochenFromm ruby.social/@jofr -J. Original message From: Steve Smith Date: 10/30/22 6:50 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter https://mashable.com/artic

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

2022-10-31 Thread Steve Smith
e.org/@cas_group berlin.social/@JochenFromm ruby.social/@jofr -J. Original message From: Steve Smith Date: 10/30/22 6:50 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter https://mashable.com/article/please-stop-twe

Re: [FRIAM] phones with keyboards, or a keyboard you can buy for a phone?

2022-10-31 Thread Steve Smith
phones back around 2006 which is how I learned to sing the "you can't touchtype... " ditty. - Steve On 10/30/22 7:02 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: Gil -- https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Keyboard-Rechargeable-Wireless-Smartphones/dp/B07XCP3THX is the right size for every day carry and

Re: [FRIAM] phones with keyboards, or a keyboard you can buy for a phone?

2022-10-30 Thread Steve Smith
they are a thing of the past - Steve On 10/30/22 4:37 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: Pity you can't just switch your computer keyboard to act as your phone's character input, as if you were swapping the phone in as another screen. Almost any bluetooth keyboard should work, and there are tons of them

[FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

2022-10-30 Thread Steve Smith
https://mashable.com/article/please-stop-tweeting-leaving-twitter https://mashable.com/article/i-was-going-to-quit-twitter-but-elon-musk-takeover I have a *very* limited twitter engagement myself.  Same with FB and *zero* with anything else *but* Instagram where I restrict myself to viewing

[FRIAM] Open Source/Design/Society and Sustainability and Collapse

2022-10-22 Thread Steve Smith
nta Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 3:08 PM Steve Smith wrote: FWIW,  I dipped into the higher levels of real-time-systems development several times in my career.  The earliest being a control system (circa 1981) for the LANL Proton Storage R

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

2022-10-22 Thread Steve Smith
rich (but mundane?) pasture designing/marketing Marathon <https://glennreid.com/>, an IoT washer-dryer appliance!   I wonder if it has a PostScript interpreter embedded in it and is building a globe-spanning distributed AI written in PS and spying on humans from the laundry room? -

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

2022-10-21 Thread Steve Smith
icult to sympathize. I've recently been playing around with VSCodium, which is pretty cool. But whatever, man. I still have to upload the code somewhere and execute it. Get off my lawn! On 10/21/22 09:24, Steve Smith wrote: As a counter-example,  we ran film recorders whose "guts&qu

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

2022-10-21 Thread Steve Smith
pondering is that these machines did not run a general purpose OS and the III software/system people probably made up for any differences in Software/Timing/Error Handling? If Owen is listening in here, I think he was there for more than a little of this from inside Apple/Sun? - St

Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

2022-10-19 Thread Steve Smith
On 10/18/22 10:21 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: A deep learning system set up for next sentence prediction, one that consumed gigabytes of literature, would learn to mimic emotions as expressed in writing.   It would likely have mappings of context and events to plausible emotional

Re: [FRIAM] Ralph Abraham, Rob and Chris Shaw (was: Re: Zoom Friam)

2022-10-15 Thread Steve Smith
way back from Merle's gig in Stockholm. Thanks for more Landau links...  the Cuban thing was very... "very"... - Steve On 10/14/22 8:15 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote: *On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith wrote:* *THE Ralph Abraham <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra

Re: [FRIAM] Zoom Friam

2022-10-14 Thread Steve Smith
Merle - THE Ralph Abraham ?  Or the OTHER Ralph Abraham ?  Or Yet Another... ? The Trialogues

Re: [FRIAM] Pardon the interuption, for questions about banking apps

2022-09-30 Thread Steve Smith
On 9/30/22 9:01 AM, glen wrote: But the real question is: Why are you using BofA? I mean, loads of passive investing rent-seekers will *thank* you for allowing them to suck money from you into their accounts (2.87% dividends for BAC!). Why not use something more local? Any

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-09-28 Thread Steve Smith
On 9/28/22 10:38 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Amazon is almost always easier and faster than a local business that have thin inventory and higher margins.  A local business is a place get COVID. I find I usually order hardware and equipment online from Home Depot because the store inventory is

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-09-28 Thread Steve Smith
responsive maybe to EricS's point about the failed News business (Mediascape). - Steve -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-09-28 Thread Steve Smith
hink up next? On 9/27/22 19:02, Steve Smith wrote: > I believe Jenny is still subscribed to this list but probably isn't following it closely so may not have seen any of this discussion.  I recommend her personal reflections on Alexander's work: Delight's Muse <https://www.amazon.com/De

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-09-28 Thread Steve Smith
y spiral staircase... sequestering (interesting?) carbon and precious metals one tiny bit at a time. I said I would stop didn't I?  Inertia!  Talkaholism! Ideaphoria! - Steve On 9/27/22 19:02, Steve Smith wrote: I believe Jenny is still subscribed to this list but probably isn't followi

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-09-27 Thread Steve Smith
ely so may not have seen any of this discussion.  I recommend her personal reflections on Alexander's work: Delight's Muse <https://www.amazon.com/DelightS-Christopher-AlexanderS-Nature-Order/dp/143031317X> . On 9/27/22 4:38 PM, Steve Smith wrote: On 9/27/22 7:40 AM, glen wrote: Ha! Th

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-09-27 Thread Steve Smith
On 9/26/22 9:30 AM, Jon Zingale wrote: One thing that got me interested in this work is the possibility of organizations of agents in different frequency spaces coming together to make agents over the total frequency domain. Also, I would be curious about the robustness of agents under

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-09-27 Thread Steve Smith
rasting/complementary answer and hopefully others here have their own trick dogs in this circus? - Steve On 9/26/22 19:47, Prof David West wrote: Alexander was a Janus: a mathematician at his father's insistence when he wanted to be an artist. An architect by compromise.  Face two was a Taoist mysti

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-09-27 Thread Steve Smith
familiar >>> enough with software patterns. But that's always failed for me as well. >>> They seem too ephemeral, unstable ... i.e. not real, convenient >>> fiction, and *perfect* opportunity for gurus to blind others with their >>> gobbledygook mouth sounds

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-09-27 Thread Steve Smith
f category theory, too abstract for my ape brain. But maybe some of his earlier work on Clifford algebras might motivate me? I could start here, I guess: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4757-1472-2_41 Thanks again. On 9/24/22 10:29, Steve Smith wrote: On 9/24/22 9:49 AM, glen w

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-09-26 Thread Steve Smith
Glen said: /But maybe some of his earlier work on Clifford algebras might motivate me? I could start here, I guess: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4757-1472-2_41 / this definitely feeds my more mystical conceptions of the relationship between mathematics and

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-09-26 Thread Steve Smith
Glen said: /But maybe some of his earlier work on Clifford algebras might motivate me? I could start here, I guess: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4757-1472-2_41 / this definitely feeds my more mystical conceptions of the relationship between mathematics and

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-09-24 Thread Steve Smith
On 9/24/22 9:49 AM, glen wrote: Such efforts seem so inherently metaphorical it's difficult for me to approach a concrete conversation. For example, I have a couple of biologist friends, one meso (bugs) and one macro (ungulates), who thought I was being contrarian when I challenged their

Re: [FRIAM] Portland interruption but my laughable internet keeps going down

2022-09-20 Thread Steve Smith
   I could be wrong, if you've seen a 4'wide trench up your road in the last 5 years they *may* have been laying first-mile fiber, but I doubt it. Wireless may be your best bet if you've tried everything else (especially). - Steve On 9/20/22 1:29 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: Heya Gary! Hope all

Re: [FRIAM] truth-preserving math

2022-09-18 Thread Steve Smith
On 9/18/22 8:00 AM, glen∉ℂ wrote: Even without the math, I think the main point is that of field vs particle. We talk a lot about networks. But you can imagine a smooth blob of goo (maybe like Silly Putty or pizza dough) being stretched and kneaded such that some parts are hard-ish clumps and

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

2022-09-17 Thread Steve Smith
Jon - Reponsive to your references to Carroll, et al... Theories of everything <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gmtAeqRs14> - Sabine Hossenfelder and to your rant about iterated colimits of consumeables: - Steve On 9/17/22 1:15 PM, Jon Zingale wrote: I am often confused b

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

2022-09-17 Thread Steve Smith
quot;lead me" into that landscape (and more to the point, push my grand/children forward into it)?  Who might I seek out who has a better vantage than I in such navigations? My latest candidates for hints in this direction include Dietrich Bonhoeffer (anti-nazi theologian) and James Bridl

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

2022-09-16 Thread Steve Smith
my* struggles with this whole topic, so I'm glad Glen referenced it, and also look forward to possibly more discussion of that in regard to the rest. - Steve On 9/16/22 10:25 AM, glen∉ℂ wrote: I do see us trying to identify the distinguishing markers of ... "cognition we can't imagin

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

2022-09-15 Thread Steve Smith
>There is some kind of diectic error in our response. Korrekshun - "deictic" -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

2022-09-15 Thread Steve Smith
eely. *And* it would still agree with Wolpert's main point: that we are more limited/biased than we can possibly imagine. In any case, don't read my comments the wrong way. I'm enormously grateful y'all have engaged. On 9/15/22 10:02, Steve Smith wrote: glen∉ℂ wrote: Great question. I also a

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

2022-09-15 Thread Steve Smith
d *because* I often *am one*...  there is no anti-smoker at large than a former smoker, especially one who perchance sneaks a guilty fag in private now and then? On 9/14/22 22:29, Marcus Daniels wrote: What would be convincing evidence of a superior intelligence independent of cultural inh

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

2022-09-14 Thread Steve Smith
On 9/14/22 7:31 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: ML gets better every day because it learns more like a newborn child than a university student. This isn't 1970s AI anymore. It all seems like a strawman argument, whether you know it or not. And as I have referenced watching a puppy and a

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

2022-09-14 Thread Steve Smith
DaveW - A more reasonable question is what caused a small subset of our species to 'go beserk' and take a subset of the SAM that served our species so well for so long, to such abstract extremes? An answer might be found, and is argued, in the Ian McGilchrist works on recent "left-brained"

Re: [FRIAM] God is not a Good Theory

2022-09-14 Thread Steve Smith
I asked Alexa "what is GPT3?", She quoted from the beginning of the Wikipedia article: /*Generative Pre-trained Transformer 3*(//*GPT-3*//; stylized*GPT·3*//) is anautoregressive language model

Re: [FRIAM] Floppy disks still live. Sorta

2022-09-14 Thread Steve Smith
When Mary moved here she had a collection of 3.5" floppies with her early poetry on them...  she wasn't sure what she had and hadn't had a floppy drive to look at them with since the 90s.   As it turned out I had a USB floppy reader I had bought to help someone else recover their history and

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert's 12 questions

2022-09-12 Thread Steve Smith
On 9/12/22 9:47 AM, glen∉ℂ wrote: Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com, Sat Sep 10 11:00:22 EDT 2022: This suggests to me that the very fundament of what I believe is "consciousness" is self-other dualistic?   Is there something unique about (our familiar form of) consciousness tha

Re: [FRIAM] monte carlo geometry processing

2022-09-12 Thread Steve Smith
And my stuck bit on (apparent) teleology is always tickled by bidirectional path invocations... The hindsight and foresight as duals, if you will (and I must). On 9/11/22 5:25 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote: What a great talk. As I was watching, given my stuck bit on dual fields and bidirectional

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

2022-09-11 Thread Steve Smith
sues of math and music; but, not that there was any kind of qualitative or quantitative difference in cognitive abilities of humans then and now. to be continued ... davew On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, at 8:05 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > DaveW - >> Just wanted to put t

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

2022-09-11 Thread Steve Smith
ve difference in cognitive abilities of humans then and now. to be continued ... davew On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, at 8:05 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > DaveW - >> Just wanted to put this here as a placeholder for future conversation as I would like to take up Wolpert's qu

[FRIAM] Dual Field Discourse...

2022-09-10 Thread Steve Smith
SG - I put this aside to answer more better when I had more time/focus and it sat a bit. I just deleted a longwinded series of discursions triggered by this topic and decided to try for "concise" and "focused" instead. You captured my appreciation that the "dual field" treatment Pradeep

Re: [FRIAM] signal and noise

2022-09-10 Thread Steve Smith
On 9/9/22 5:56 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: A genome wide association study (GWAS) using a set of full human genome sequences, or a set of exome sequences is the same, it is just a question of which DNA is used. Some nucleotides code for proteins and some code for things like how much of the

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

2022-09-10 Thread Steve Smith
DaveW - Just wanted to put this here as a placeholder for future conversation as I would like to take up Wolpert's questions even though I am not "miraculous" per glen's invitation. I do need a day to two to read and pose questions /make observations, but others might be ready to chime in

[FRIAM] Wolpert's 12 questions

2022-09-10 Thread Steve Smith
l of physical reality? If not, is there any way of gaining insight into how much of reality is forever beyond our ability to even conceive of? In short, what can we ever know about the nature of that which we cannot conceive of? I do believe that there is a forward chain of hindsight-about-foresight t

Re: [FRIAM] signal and noise

2022-09-10 Thread Steve Smith
t can we ever know about the nature of that which we cannot conceive of? On 9/9/22 11:33, Steve Smith wrote: glen wrote: Jochen posts more questions than answers. Even EricS' conversations with Jon about the expressive power of hypergraphs shows an impetus to circumscribe what's computa

Re: [FRIAM] signal and noise

2022-09-09 Thread Steve Smith
glen wrote: I think it's reasonable. But I also think it leans wrong, depending on what you mean by "several conversations", "algorithmic", and "noise". I particularly like your use of the idiom "lean's wrong" which triggers for me "Tell all the Truth but Tell it Slant" - Emily Dickenson

Re: [FRIAM] signal and noise

2022-09-09 Thread Steve Smith
Marcus Daniels wrote: “Noise” may have some quantitative properties but nothing that reveals ultimate causality without at least factoring all unseen events from the Big Bang onward. Signal to noise is about being able to discriminate something you want from something you don’t. Further,

Re: [FRIAM] more structure-based mind-reading

2022-09-06 Thread Steve Smith
stances is a complete deconstruction and deletion of empathy.  Ask what rats would do.   Oh it takes me back. I do like me a good "black comedy"...  I recently enjoyed Woody Harrelson as _The Man from Toronto_...  McConaughey also rarely disappoints. On Sep 6, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Steve Sm

Re: [FRIAM] more structure-based mind-reading

2022-09-06 Thread Steve Smith
es and that the only way to understand them is to participate in them.  If it is possible to fake it, and I think it is, then that raises doubts about the claim. That is what spies specialize in. > >> On Sep 2, 2022, at 7:17 PM, Steve Smith wrote: >> >> I have spent most of

Re: [FRIAM] more structure-based mind-reading

2022-09-06 Thread Steve Smith
tures and that the only way to understand them is to participate in them.  If it is possible to fake it, and I think it is, then that raises doubts about the claim. That is what spies specialize in. On Sep 2, 2022, at 7:17 PM, Steve Smith wrote: I have spent most of my life avoiding "a

Re: [FRIAM] more structure-based mind-reading

2022-09-02 Thread Steve Smith
e we faked it digging ditches or pair programming in Java. The only difference between feeling an affinity and engaging in a new faking it exercise is the extent to which the new collaboration is similar to the previous collaborations. As both Steve and Dave point out, spend enough time living

Re: [FRIAM] more structure-based mind-reading

2022-09-01 Thread Steve Smith
On 9/1/22 11:21 AM, glen wrote: Inter-brain synchronization occurs without physical co-presence during cooperative online gaming https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028393222001750 There's a lot piled into the aggregate measures of EEG. And the mere fact of the canalization

Re: [FRIAM] wtf I thought nuclear weapons was banned since...forever

2022-08-28 Thread Steve Smith
Pandora's cats are out of the bag and nothing will put them back.   I'm not religious but the whole "original sin" thing is a good allegory for how hard (impossible) it is to go backwards... even when that would be the very best thing to do (were it possible).   There is no "undo" button...

Re: [FRIAM] computer monitor

2022-08-25 Thread Steve Smith
Gil - I have both e-mails and will ping you next time I expect to come to town and make a plan to drop off then... maybe as early as next Tuesday? - Steve On 8/25/22 1:42 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: Wowie zowie  thank you so much steve! that would be fantastic!  Ironically CRTs  were kind

Re: [FRIAM] computer monitor

2022-08-25 Thread Steve Smith
r-television Lemme know!  - Steve On 8/25/22 12:49 PM, glen wrote: https://www.eizorugged.com/products/rugged-monitors/ On 8/25/22 11:32, Gillian Densmore wrote: I have no had 3 hp monitors crack in the same way. Basically something about how I get behind it. Usually to reboot my stupid cabl

Re: [FRIAM] Augmented Reality

2022-08-23 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - Great thoughtful and thought-provoking post (as usual).  (at the risk of verging on bro-etry?) Sanas, the buzzy Bay Area startup that wants to make the world sound whiter https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/sanas-startup-creates-american-voice-17382771.php And a voice modifier

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