Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

Eric - I like your introduction of "some kind of Ambivalence Frontier"... I think this also expresses itself in the "close races" we have in politics these days... a vague correlate to what happens with high-scoring competitive games (like basketball) which often end up in close calls with a

Re: [FRIAM] keep getting mice.

Gil -  To misquote Leonard Cohen: "There is a crack in everything, that is how the mice get in". I have lived with mouse-flux all of my time in my current (rural)property 20 years).  The mice (and ground squirrels and packrats) in the environs require that I remain vigilant to keep them

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

I recently watched a documentary on the animals living in Chernobyl, environs and nearby evacuated villages.   The overall theme was that while there was lots of evidence of genetic damage and mutation in individuals, they were still "healthy populations" of many (all?) species finding new

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

ng" vs "optimising"  in my 30s which was a significant relief, and allowed more degrees of freedom in my optimization/satisficing intentions/habits. "Good enough for who it's for" is a much better mantra, IMO than the usual "... for government work". On 12/3

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

OPT Cafe is closed as well. What a way to run a business this is peak Family dining out Time. A new phase of customer service seems to have emerged after COVID.   I have ambiguous feelings about it.   Previously I was a little offended by various examples of businesses not catering well at

[FRIAM] Merry Xmas from AI-Art mashup

For all you AI-Art wonks...    I especially loved the Frida Kahlo segment... https://twitter.com/jblefevre60/status/1606015214264193028 -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe /

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

On 12/23/22 7:47 PM, Prof David West wrote: Instead of a cable - maybe Tesla’s unrealized broadcast technology? I don’t remember the details but he was going to send power from Long Island, via the ionosphere, to light the world expo in Paris. How could that ever go wrong? What kinds of

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

content/article/fusion-power-may-run-fuel-even-gets-started https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/12/what-enabled-the-big-boost-in-fusion-energy-announced-this-week/ On 12/13/22 16:23, Steve Smith wrote: I think DT refers simply

Re: [FRIAM] PostHumanism/Modernism/Anthropocene

like he is still at Heidelberg U. where he matriculated  I may penetrate *their* arcane website to find it from the direct source... - Steve On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 3:43 PM Steve Smith wrote: Here's my latest positive hit from Academia Countdown to Extinction? - Posthumanism

Re: [FRIAM] PostHumanism/Modernism/Anthropocene

concrete foundation for a bike lane on piers.  So quiet it would be without the cars.  Bring on the sea level rise! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2022, at 2:43 PM, Steve Smith wrote: Here's my latest positive hit from Academia Countdown to Extinction? - Posthumanism in Science Fi

[FRIAM] PostHumanism/Modernism/Anthropocene

Here's my latest positive hit from Academia Countdown to Extinction? - Posthumanism in Science Fiction Raoul Guariguata https://www.academia.edu/2061036/Countdown_to_Extinction_Posthumanism_in_Science_Fiction I could rattle on for pages about my take on this, but the short version is that I

[FRIAM] Academia.edu

your own experiences? <https://www.academia.edu/> PREMIUM 62 papersmention Steve Smith Including one Artificial Intelligence paper * Don't miss a single Mention * Track your growing reputation See what academics are saying abou

Re: [FRIAM] For Steve Smith eta all re gadgets reviewing

Gil - congrats on your upgraded palmtop, external keyboard, trackball and all!   When I saw the name (Note10) I thought maybe it was technically a Phablet (is that even a contemporary term?  how big does a phone (or small a tablet) have to be to be a phablet?) I'd probably go for a phablet

Re: [FRIAM] Who wrote the essay?

OK... who will take on the job of training chatGPT with the top dozen FriAM characters and subscribing these digital doppelganger/shadow-selves to the list to weigh in every time their human counterpart is too slow to throw their hat in the ring?   Sounds like a job for Dr. StrangeCartoonLove? 

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

e.org/news/nuclear-fusion-nifs-hall-of-mirrors-may-solve-worlds-energy-crisis?SSO=1 https://www.science.org/content/article/fusion-power-may-run-fuel-even-gets-started https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/12/what-enabled-the-big-boost-in-fusion-energy-announced-this-week/

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Steve Smith wrote: Great synopsis... thanks. I'm fascinated at how long we've been "on the cusp" of "lighting up" a micro-star in the laboratory. My first awareness was in the early 70s when a Radio Engineer I worked with had just com

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

I think DT refers simply to the remaining fraction of Deuterium/Tritium remaining after the reaction event (-4%) without specific accounting for remaining D vs T. My understanding is that D-T  fusion occurs at a lower temperature than D-D but that once fusion commences (starting with D-T),

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

Great synopsis... thanks. I'm fascinated at how long we've been "on the cusp" of "lighting up" a micro-star in the laboratory. My first awareness was in the early 70s when a Radio Engineer I worked with had just come from the early MFE Livermore efforts to my tiny hometown AM RAdio

Re: [FRIAM] models

DaveW - The central question: is there a difference between a 'model' of something and a 'theory' of something? After reading your full description of your question and Eric's own maunderings on (a tangent to?) the topic, I am both (over)full of thoughts and at a loss. To me: a model is

Re: [FRIAM] collective sheepishness

Not Sheep, but human societies, have done similar things in our collective past. David Graeber's book, the Origin of Everything, details the multiplicity of organizational and governmental forms and poses the question of how did we get stuck in the one we have now. davew It does seem

Re: [FRIAM] collective sheepishness

Roger - From hackernews https://www.nature.com/articles/s41567-022-01769-8 corrected link from comments to "Sheep flocks alternate their leader and achieve collective intelligence" The secret sauce of american democracy. -- rec -- I wasn't able to read the (paywall) article, but was intrigued

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: (not) leaving Twitter

es and some of the implications for how *relevant* those arcs/combinatorics are for my lifetime and for the choices I am making for myself and those I care about (which ultimately includes "everybody" in some sense)... - Steve On 11/17/22 13:11, Steve Smith wrote: Of

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

On 11/17/22 3:28 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: Hmm, credit unions were designed to not be in competition with banks, and so they don't get very big,h and don't have access to deeper pockets of funding, and don't get gobbled up by bigger banks, and don't get closed because their service areas

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

Eric/Roger - I appreciate your personal anecdotes re:LANB.   I think it was a shining star in it's own way.  I have known people who worked there over the decades and have known a few of the families of the principles including a couple who acted as personal assistant/caretakers for the

[FRIAM] Fwd: (not) leaving Twitter

Of course I did... doh! Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 09:22:48 -0800 From: glen To: Steve Smith I think you intended to send this to the list? On 11/17/22 09:13, Steve Smith wrote: On 11/17/22 9:32

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

> > More Billionaire news [sigh]: > > What happened at Alameda Research > https://milkyeggs.com/?p=175 > > On 10/31/22 10:28, Steve Smith wrote: >> Great quote from CDs screed: >> >>      "Every billionaire is a policy failure, b

Re: [FRIAM] For scifi fans

On 11/9/22 6:49 PM, glen wrote: https://www.nature.com/nature/articles?type=futures Good share... thanks What is often more fascinating to me than Speculative Fiction itself (though I always appreciate such which speculates on the topic of "what it is to be human...  when/if/as?") is that

Re: [FRIAM] Getting Verbed...

s more of platform for the next fresh mode of complexity to emerge. The words I use (I think for the same thing) are exploration vs. exploitation, which roughly correspond to the union and the confederacy and their modern equivalents. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of Steve Smi

Re: [FRIAM] Getting Verbed...

other people and be in campaign mode all the time I get news'd a retarded poloticioned (so poloticion.) your a senator that's 900 years old acting like a 3 year old eh? congrats on being a waste of air. On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 2:47 PM Gillian Densmore mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com>> wr

[FRIAM] Getting Verbed...

ource and open protocol to your weirdo subculture. We just don't have to link to you. Don't think 'twitter-like'. Think 'decentralized'. On November 6, 2022 5:51:40 PM EST, Steve Smith wrote: Trying to understand BookWyrm vs StoryGraph vs GoodReads and Twitter vs Mastadon (and beyond),

Re: [FRIAM] Essentialism, Praedicamenta, Katēgoriai and Category Theory?

SG wrote: FWIW, related to you're wquery, my tabs open on my ECP-SJC flight are related to attempting to formalize my babble of "The Dual of a Model" in bidirectional path tracing. "Opposite Category" with associated links is my current dive :-)

[FRIAM] Essentialism, Praedicamenta, Katēgoriai and Category Theory?

In my fumbling about in Essentialism,  I backed into the (implied to me) question of whether Aristotle's /Katēgoriai/ in any way presaged or set the stage for the formal mathematics of Category Theory and if his /Praedicamenta/ was in some way an Ontology of Epistemology? I'm guessing that

Re: [FRIAM] gone Meta on Twitter, GoodReads, etc.

uot;. On November 6, 2022 5:51:40 PM EST, Steve Smith wrote: Trying to understand BookWyrm vs StoryGraph vs GoodReads and Twitter vs Mastadon (and beyond), I found this aggregator of alternative recommendations: https://alternativeto.net/ which doesn't necessarily solv

[FRIAM] gone Meta on Twitter, GoodReads, etc.

n about this until the release yesterday: https://joinbookwyrm.com/ On 11/2/22 14:52, Steve Smith wrote: On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: Thanks, Glen. It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url that one could use to name a book that only conveyed th

Re: [FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

, 2022 at 10:18 AM Steve Smith wrote: Good one Carl/Ken ... And don't even get me started on converting calendars and clocks to *metric* (y'all know how much I prefer fractions over decimals for everyday measures and calculations). As  a child, WWV was one of the very few

Re: [FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

ke rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Or maybe complaining about how a reporter discussing Putin mispronounces "nukular" ... an odd thing to complain about while the ICBM heads your way. On 11/4/22 15:17, Steve Smith wrote: > &

Re: [FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

/In June 2022, the U.S. House failed to pass the bill, which is now stalled and scheduled to expire in December./ /Let the debate resume in March 2023./ On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:10 PM Steve Smith wrote: as we all know I'm no fan of semi-annual clock changes... and I t

[FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

as we all know I'm no fan of semi-annual clock changes... and I thought the Sunshine Act would put an end to that nonsense even if did fall on the "wrong side" with a year-round DST timesqew.   Looks like it is going to fail despite

Re: [FRIAM] books by cheng and chang

On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: Thanks, Glen. It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url that one could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in itself.  Goodreads was that once, then Amazon bought them.  Ditto for video and audio recordings and

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

sage length.  Having models of hundreds of millions of individuals’ impulses could be valuable to all sorts of organizations. On Oct 31, 2022, at 10:28 AM, Steve Smith wrote:  Great quote from CDs screed: "Every billionaire is a policy failure, but every billionaire is also a fac

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

s are here: fediscience.org/@cas_group berlin.social/@JochenFromm ruby.social/@jofr -J. Original message From: Steve Smith Date: 10/30/22 6:50 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter https://mashable.com/artic

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

e.org/@cas_group berlin.social/@JochenFromm ruby.social/@jofr -J. Original message From: Steve Smith Date: 10/30/22 6:50 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter https://mashable.com/article/please-stop-twe

Re: [FRIAM] phones with keyboards, or a keyboard you can buy for a phone?

REC - Great find!  I'm not in the market myself for such a thing, as much as I like the tactile feedback, TK (tiny keyboards) don't work for me either...   "you can't touch-type on a tiny-keyboard" (... to the tune of "can't rollerskate in buffalo herd"), but I *like* knowing that the "free

Re: [FRIAM] phones with keyboards, or a keyboard you can buy for a phone?

Gil - This is the keyboard I bought a few years ago... it seems well constructed and has held up well to my very limited use... mostly with a mini (android-enabled) projector and with my Oculus Quest and Go HMDs.   )

[FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

https://mashable.com/article/please-stop-tweeting-leaving-twitter https://mashable.com/article/i-was-going-to-quit-twitter-but-elon-musk-takeover I have a *very* limited twitter engagement myself.  Same with FB and *zero* with anything else *but* Instagram where I restrict myself to viewing

[FRIAM] Open Source/Design/Society and Sustainability and Collapse

nta Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 3:08 PM Steve Smith wrote: FWIW,  I dipped into the higher levels of real-time-systems development several times in my career.  The earliest being a control system (circa 1981) for the LANL Proton Storage R

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

> irritated when people use *toy* code in their rhetoric and leave large > scale deployment as an exercise for the reader. Yeah, fine. The REPL > is cool and all. But when my simulation takes a fvcking WEEK to > execute, it's difficult to sympathize. I've recently

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

icult to sympathize. I've recently been playing around with VSCodium, which is pretty cool. But whatever, man. I still have to upload the code somewhere and execute it. Get off my lawn! On 10/21/22 09:24, Steve Smith wrote: As a counter-example,  we ran film recorders whose "guts&qu

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

Frank - This is all up to the incremental differences between SH/CSH/BASH/*SH for example of course.    The (more) general purpose language families such as those growing out of "C" for example (I know little about "A" and "B" except that the preceded "C" during a very short period of

Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

On 10/18/22 10:21 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: A deep learning system set up for next sentence prediction, one that consumed gigabytes of literature, would learn to mimic emotions as expressed in writing.   It would likely have mappings of context and events to plausible emotional

Re: [FRIAM] Ralph Abraham, Rob and Chris Shaw (was: Re: Zoom Friam)

way back from Merle's gig in Stockholm. Thanks for more Landau links...  the Cuban thing was very... "very"... - Steve On 10/14/22 8:15 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote: *On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith wrote:* *THE Ralph Abraham <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra

Re: [FRIAM] Zoom Friam

Merle - THE Ralph Abraham ?  Or the OTHER Ralph Abraham ?  Or Yet Another... ? The Trialogues

Re: [FRIAM] Pardon the interuption, for questions about banking apps

On 9/30/22 9:01 AM, glen wrote: But the real question is: Why are you using BofA? I mean, loads of passive investing rent-seekers will *thank* you for allowing them to suck money from you into their accounts (2.87% dividends for BAC!). Why not use something more local? Any

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

On 9/28/22 10:38 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Amazon is almost always easier and faster than a local business that have thin inventory and higher margins.  A local business is a place get COVID. I find I usually order hardware and equipment online from Home Depot because the store inventory is

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

Glen - I saw a good little joke this morning, which echoes SteveS' nihilistic argument from convenience: https://mastodon.social/web/@AgreeableLandscape/109074621789771764 "Why do you have a job at a private company, buy food from a chain grocery store, and have a smartphone from a

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

hink up next? On 9/27/22 19:02, Steve Smith wrote: > I believe Jenny is still subscribed to this list but probably isn't following it closely so may not have seen any of this discussion.  I recommend her personal reflections on Alexander's work: Delight's Muse <https://www.amazon.com/De

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

y spiral staircase... sequestering (interesting?) carbon and precious metals one tiny bit at a time. I said I would stop didn't I?  Inertia!  Talkaholism! Ideaphoria! - Steve On 9/27/22 19:02, Steve Smith wrote: I believe Jenny is still subscribed to this list but probably isn't followi

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

ely so may not have seen any of this discussion.  I recommend her personal reflections on Alexander's work: Delight's Muse <https://www.amazon.com/DelightS-Christopher-AlexanderS-Nature-Order/dp/143031317X> . On 9/27/22 4:38 PM, Steve Smith wrote: On 9/27/22 7:40 AM, glen wrote: Ha! Th

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

On 9/26/22 9:30 AM, Jon Zingale wrote: One thing that got me interested in this work is the possibility of organizations of agents in different frequency spaces coming together to make agents over the total frequency domain. Also, I would be curious about the robustness of agents under

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

But that's always failed for me as well.  >>> They seem too ephemeral, unstable ... i.e. not real, convenient  >>> fiction, and *perfect* opportunity for gurus to blind others with their  >>> gobbledygook mouth sounds. I guess it reminds me of category theory,  &g

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

familiar >>> enough with software patterns. But that's always failed for me as well. >>> They seem too ephemeral, unstable ... i.e. not real, convenient >>> fiction, and *perfect* opportunity for gurus to blind others with their >>> gobbledygook mouth sounds

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

f category theory, too abstract for my ape brain. But maybe some of his earlier work on Clifford algebras might motivate me? I could start here, I guess: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4757-1472-2_41 Thanks again. On 9/24/22 10:29, Steve Smith wrote: On 9/24/22 9:49 AM, glen w

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

Glen said: /But maybe some of his earlier work on Clifford algebras might motivate me? I could start here, I guess: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4757-1472-2_41 / this definitely feeds my more mystical conceptions of the relationship between mathematics and

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

Glen said: /But maybe some of his earlier work on Clifford algebras might motivate me? I could start here, I guess: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4757-1472-2_41 / this definitely feeds my more mystical conceptions of the relationship between mathematics and

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

On 9/24/22 9:49 AM, glen wrote: Such efforts seem so inherently metaphorical it's difficult for me to approach a concrete conversation. For example, I have a couple of biologist friends, one meso (bugs) and one macro (ungulates), who thought I was being contrarian when I challenged their

Re: [FRIAM] Portland interruption but my laughable internet keeps going down

Gil- I get my service through NMSURF wireless (formerly CNSP) and have had pretty good service, though *I* may have somewhat lower expectations than most people...  a little like Gary... when you grow up without *any* internet and then "come of age" with 110/300/1200bps dialup and got really

Re: [FRIAM] truth-preserving math

On 9/18/22 8:00 AM, glen∉ℂ wrote: Even without the math, I think the main point is that of field vs particle. We talk a lot about networks. But you can imagine a smooth blob of goo (maybe like Silly Putty or pizza dough) being stretched and kneaded such that some parts are hard-ish clumps and

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

Jon - Reponsive to your references to Carroll, et al... Theories of everything - Sabine Hossenfelder and to your rant about iterated colimits of consumeables: - Steve On 9/17/22 1:15 PM, Jon Zingale wrote: I am often confused by what

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

e <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bridle#cite_note-5> (contemporary artist/writer) - Steve PS.   Or is the landscape metaphor flawed?  I only see a "hellride" in the Zelazny-Amber sense...  riding across a multiverse manifold stretched roughly between the poles of Log

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

rough an evolutionary lineage so radically distant from our own? What does it mean that evolution built minds not once but at least twice? The octopus is the closest we will come to meeting an intelligent alien. What can we learn from the encounter? / davew On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Steve Smi

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

>There is some kind of diectic error in our response. Korrekshun - "deictic" -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

eely. *And* it would still agree with Wolpert's main point: that we are more limited/biased than we can possibly imagine. In any case, don't read my comments the wrong way. I'm enormously grateful y'all have engaged. On 9/15/22 10:02, Steve Smith wrote: glen∉ℂ wrote: Great question. I also a

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

d *because* I often *am one*...  there is no anti-smoker at large than a former smoker, especially one who perchance sneaks a guilty fag in private now and then? On 9/14/22 22:29, Marcus Daniels wrote: What would be convincing evidence of a superior intelligence independent of cultural inh

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

On 9/14/22 7:31 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: ML gets better every day because it learns more like a newborn child than a university student. This isn't 1970s AI anymore. It all seems like a strawman argument, whether you know it or not. And as I have referenced watching a puppy and a

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

DaveW - A more reasonable question is what caused a small subset of our species to 'go beserk' and take a subset of the SAM that served our species so well for so long, to such abstract extremes? An answer might be found, and is argued, in the Ian McGilchrist works on recent "left-brained"

Re: [FRIAM] God is not a Good Theory

I asked Alexa "what is GPT3?", She quoted from the beginning of the Wikipedia article: /*Generative Pre-trained Transformer 3*(//*GPT-3*//; stylized*GPT·3*//) is anautoregressive language model

Re: [FRIAM] Floppy disks still live. Sorta

When Mary moved here she had a collection of 3.5" floppies with her early poetry on them...  she wasn't sure what she had and hadn't had a floppy drive to look at them with since the 90s.   As it turned out I had a USB floppy reader I had bought to help someone else recover their history and

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert's 12 questions

On 9/12/22 9:47 AM, glen∉ℂ wrote: Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com, Sat Sep 10 11:00:22 EDT 2022: This suggests to me that the very fundament of what I believe is "consciousness" is self-other dualistic?   Is there something unique about (our familiar form of) consciousness tha

Re: [FRIAM] monte carlo geometry processing

And my stuck bit on (apparent) teleology is always tickled by bidirectional path invocations... The hindsight and foresight as duals, if you will (and I must). On 9/11/22 5:25 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote: What a great talk. As I was watching, given my stuck bit on dual fields and bidirectional

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

sues of math and music; but, not that there was any kind of qualitative or quantitative difference in cognitive abilities of humans then and now. to be continued ... davew On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, at 8:05 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > DaveW - >> Just wanted to put t

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

ve difference in cognitive abilities of humans then and now. to be continued ... davew On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, at 8:05 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > DaveW - >> Just wanted to put this here as a placeholder for future conversation as I would like to take up Wolpert's qu

[FRIAM] Dual Field Discourse...

SG - I put this aside to answer more better when I had more time/focus and it sat a bit. I just deleted a longwinded series of discursions triggered by this topic and decided to try for "concise" and "focused" instead. You captured my appreciation that the "dual field" treatment Pradeep

Re: [FRIAM] signal and noise

On 9/9/22 5:56 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: A genome wide association study (GWAS) using a set of full human genome sequences, or a set of exome sequences is the same, it is just a question of which DNA is used. Some nucleotides code for proteins and some code for things like how much of the

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

DaveW - Just wanted to put this here as a placeholder for future conversation as I would like to take up Wolpert's questions even though I am not "miraculous" per glen's invitation. I do need a day to two to read and pose questions /make observations, but others might be ready to chime in

[FRIAM] Wolpert's 12 questions

Glen, et al.  - Here is my throwdown... For convenience, the 12 questions are: And I hope others will weigh in here... 1. Why is there a major chasm with the minimal cognitive capabilities necessary for survival by pre-Holocene hominids on one side, and on the other side, all those

Re: [FRIAM] signal and noise

t can we ever know about the nature of that which we cannot conceive of? On 9/9/22 11:33, Steve Smith wrote: glen wrote: Jochen posts more questions than answers. Even EricS' conversations with Jon about the expressive power of hypergraphs shows an impetus to circumscribe what's computa

Re: [FRIAM] signal and noise

glen wrote: I think it's reasonable. But I also think it leans wrong, depending on what you mean by "several conversations", "algorithmic", and "noise". I particularly like your use of the idiom "lean's wrong" which triggers for me "Tell all the Truth but Tell it Slant" - Emily Dickenson

Re: [FRIAM] signal and noise

Marcus Daniels wrote: “Noise” may have some quantitative properties but nothing that reveals ultimate causality without at least factoring all unseen events from the Big Bang onward. Signal to noise is about being able to discriminate something you want from something you don’t. Further,

Re: [FRIAM] more structure-based mind-reading

stances is a complete deconstruction and deletion of empathy.  Ask what rats would do.   Oh it takes me back. I do like me a good "black comedy"...  I recently enjoyed Woody Harrelson as _The Man from Toronto_...  McConaughey also rarely disappoints. On Sep 6, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Steve Sm

Re: [FRIAM] more structure-based mind-reading

es and that the only way to understand them is to participate in them.  If it is possible to fake it, and I think it is, then that raises doubts about the claim. That is what spies specialize in. > >> On Sep 2, 2022, at 7:17 PM, Steve Smith wrote: >> >> I have spent most of

Re: [FRIAM] more structure-based mind-reading

tures and that the only way to understand them is to participate in them.  If it is possible to fake it, and I think it is, then that raises doubts about the claim. That is what spies specialize in. On Sep 2, 2022, at 7:17 PM, Steve Smith wrote: I have spent most of my life avoiding "a

Re: [FRIAM] more structure-based mind-reading

logy. The premise is you cannot truly understand a culture until you live it. Of course, there is still a boundary, a separation, between the anthropologist and those with whom she interacts, but sweat, calluses, blood, and emotions go a long way toward establishing actual understanding. da

Re: [FRIAM] more structure-based mind-reading

On 9/1/22 11:21 AM, glen wrote: Inter-brain synchronization occurs without physical co-presence during cooperative online gaming https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028393222001750 There's a lot piled into the aggregate measures of EEG. And the mere fact of the canalization

Re: [FRIAM] wtf I thought nuclear weapons was banned since...forever

Pandora's cats are out of the bag and nothing will put them back.   I'm not religious but the whole "original sin" thing is a good allegory for how hard (impossible) it is to go backwards... even when that would be the very best thing to do (were it possible).   There is no "undo" button...

Re: [FRIAM] computer monitor

also sometimes not as nice to my electronics as I really should be. Do you have either my or Owens email? that way we figure out how make arrangements for pickups or drop offs. On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 1:28 PM Steve Smith wrote: Gil - I have gone past the use of external computer

Re: [FRIAM] computer monitor

Gil - I have gone past the use of external computer monitors in my own life/work and have a total of 3 re-homeable units I could offer you.   I don't have the specs on them in front of me, and I can't guarantee their ruggedness, though I am not easy on most of my gear and I have not damaged

Re: [FRIAM] Augmented Reality

Glen - Great thoughtful and thought-provoking post (as usual).  (at the risk of verging on bro-etry?) Sanas, the buzzy Bay Area startup that wants to make the world sound whiter https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/sanas-startup-creates-american-voice-17382771.php And a voice modifier

Re: [FRIAM] dystopian vision(s)

sn't about what they "deserve" it is about who I am willing to be?   For a few months in 2016 I had a direct-action project conception titled "take a Dump for Trump" that was modeled on the old Halloween trick of a bag of burning dogshit on a porch... but I had to let that g

Re: [FRIAM] dystopian vision(s)

GEPR - This sounds like a fantastic project for a public OSINT challenge. You *know* all those codgers have terrible OpSec, probably order their drugs through the USPS or worse, have their underpaid, over-abused admin assistants pick 'em up at the drive through window of the pharmacy. A good

Re: [FRIAM] dystopian vision(s)

itches in the outback bush, *are* technology, nearly identical to the Mojo Lens or the Neuralink. What's that stanza from Alice in Chains? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9GAEFTeWko " What's my drug of choice? Well, what have you got? I don't go broke And I do it a lot " On 8/18

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