Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-11-12 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
[mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: November-12-11 1:30 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc. Does this apply to Google Groups as well ;^) How to make people feel they are part

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-11-12 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc. Gillian, H trying to put my evolutionary psychology hat on, and feeling like I am not doing it quite as well as I should Humans ARE programed to do things for the good of their groups. The question then is: How do we get

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-11-11 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc. Gillian, H trying to put my evolutionary psychology hat on, and feeling like I am not doing it quite as well as I should Humans ARE programed to do things for the good of their groups. The question then is: How do we get people

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-11-11 Thread Steve Smith
Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc. Gillian, H trying to put my evolutionary psychology hat on, and feeling like I am not doing it quite as well as I should Humans ARE programed to do things for the good of their groups

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-28 Thread Rich Murray
How good to see such humane, thoughtful, generous, respectful, humble, competent SHARING within single human family, within all of single entire unified creative fractal hyperinfinity, not hyper finicky... Rich On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Carl Tollander c...@plektyx.com wrote: Group

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-27 Thread Rich Murray
Since my remarks were perhaps tersely shocking, here is a clear overview by James Traverse: http://www.beingyoga.com/ [ For more, search Google nonduality... ] Know Thyself Be a Light unto Yourself Form is Seeing and Seeing is Being. ~ Atmananda Krishna Menon Being is Seeing and Seeing is

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-27 Thread Gillian Densmore
Interesting discution going on here. Feeling like one of the 99% on some levels. Rich Muray's proposed list on some levels makes sense. Higher min wage for example how are you suposed to actually live on $9.00 an hour? even full time that's only 360 a week (before tax). Ouch. Another one that

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-27 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Hi 360 a week (before tax). Ouch. is roughly what an average productive worker (and his large extended family) in a LDC survives on for a YEAR. It seems to me that a bunch of very rich nations led by the USA have gotten together and decided to interfere (citing human rights etc.) in the affairs

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-27 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
Gillian, H trying to put my evolutionary psychology hat on, and feeling like I am not doing it quite as well as I should Humans ARE programed to do things for the good of their groups. The question then is: How do we get people to feel as if they are part of a group? and How do we get

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-27 Thread Nicholas Thompson
: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:32 PM To: Gillian Densmore Cc: Anne Rowland; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc. Gillian, H trying to put my evolutionary psychology hat on, and feeling like I am not doing it quite

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-27 Thread Carl Tollander
The issue may not be how to get the advantaged to include the disadvantaged as part of 'their' group. The issue is that they do that by failing to see that anyone is disadvantaged. On 10/27/11 8:32 PM, ERIC P. CHARLES wrote: Gillian, H tryingto put my evolutionary psychology hat on,

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-27 Thread Carl Tollander
Group membership is not necessarily self-selecting. Perceiving group identity, deciding to be part of the group, working to be accepted into the group, and having the group 'accept' a member are different activities, and of course there are multiple groups with competing, occasionally

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-26 Thread Rich Murray
...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc. Dear Uncle Richard, I've read through your e-mail and although I love you and respect your spiritual nature, I have to disagree with many of your suggestions.  In an ideal utopia populated by unselfish people, some

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-16 Thread Owen Densmore
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear Local Friammers, ** ** snip Thank you for the report, interesting. I stipulate that this is not the place for a political discussion and that many of you would probably disagree with me

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-16 Thread Gillian Densmore
Personally I think a open diolague about a broken system at all levels is a Good Thing. It's even better though when people start proposing solutions. Kim Sorvig noted that the US economy is basicly run by gambling-ie investments in Wall Street. I don't have enough game theory or economics to show

[FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-15 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Dear Local Friammers, I asked others on the list to inform me about Occupy Wall Street -type activities in Santa Fe, and, since nobody did and since I learned a little more, myself, I thought I would say what I think I know. (1)The Group at the State Capitol building house seemed to

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-15 Thread Victoria Hughes
Ah Nick, you are a treasure. I have no info: very busy with a professional watershed event and my place in it, so I watch and honk as I drive by but choose not to participate. IF I had info, you would definitely be getting it! Tory Tory Hughes www.toryhughes.com RAM- Terra Nova Milagro

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-15 Thread Douglas Roberts
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear Local Friammers, ** ** snip ** ** Back to the discussion of cellphone apps. And emergence. Let's not forget the deep discussions of emergence. ** ** Nick --Doug