Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-14 Thread Gillian Densmore
. I even explained how I'd looked him up online beforehand > and knew all the schools he went to and that he had no active malpractice > suits against him. (Which was no small feat since he's an immigrant from > India.) > > > > > > That interaction

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-14 Thread Steven A Smith
ehand and knew all the > schools he went to and that he had no active malpractice suits > against him.  (Which was no small feat since he's an immigrant > from India.) > >     >      > >     >     That interaction successfully grabbed his attention.  &

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-14 Thread Gillian Densmore
he went to and that he had no active malpractice > suits against him. (Which was no small feat since he's an immigrant from > India.) > > > > > > That interaction successfully grabbed his attention. Perhaps, > since you're also computer literate, you could use the same tr

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-14 Thread Gillian Densmore
an immigrant from > India.) > > > > > > That interaction successfully grabbed his attention. Perhaps, > since you're also computer literate, you could use the same trick next time > a Dr's attention is too focused on the computer? > > >

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread Gillian Densmore
omplexity Coffee Group < >>> friam@redfish.com> >>> *Date: *Friday, July 13, 2018 at 8:39 AM >>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> friam@redfish.com> >>> *Subject: *[FRIAM] Weird observation >

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread Gillian Densmore
Gillian Densmore < >> gil.densm...@gmail.com> >> *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> friam@redfish.com> >> *Date: *Friday, July 13, 2018 at 8:39 AM >> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> fri

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread Gillian Densmore
.com> > *Date: *Friday, July 13, 2018 at 8:39 AM > *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject: *[FRIAM] Weird observation > > > > While at doctor's office trying ask a nurse to politely express to a > doctor that it comes off as

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
OK. When you caveat it as a rare specialist with an attitude, then I'd agree with you, at least in practice. Let them do their tiny/special job and don't expect/require them to think/care about you as a whole person. But in those cases, who is in charge does matter a great deal. If they're

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread Steven A Smith
are about maintaining a functional government. > > > As for doctors, I don’t want them to my friend. I want them to > take their limited time and focus their extensive training, to rationalize > the symptoms I present. > > > > > >

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
Yeah, I try not do that until I've observed a person for a while. Some people are more sensitive or inflexible, but not necessarily for reasons they can control. I don't see that vendor and customer really makes a difference in the extreme cases. What matters is getting to the truth, using

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread ∄ uǝʃƃ
I disagree completely. If we consider you and your Dr colleagues who share the same objective, then when a colleague of mine interrupts me, I tend to have enough respect for them to assume they're interrupting me because they think I should be interrupted. Similarly, if they seize control of

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
Glen writes: "That interaction successfully grabbed his attention." My observation is that it is not necessarily helpful to others' concentration to interrupt them and to try to control the conversation.I don't see doctors as any different from any other specialist, in spite of the fact

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread ∄ uǝʃƃ
Probably. In the context of a more acute situation (e.g. emergency room, or the patient is in severe distress), the nurses are trained to inject their judgment. But in a more casual context (like an office visit to a GP), they're not. The important point, though, is it's a matter of

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread Curt McNamara
d focus their extensive training, to > rationalize the symptoms I present. > > > > > > From: Friam on behalf of Gillian > Densmore > > > Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > >

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
alize the symptoms I present. > > > > From: Friam on behalf of Gillian Densmore > > Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > Date: Friday, July 13, 2018 at 8:39 AM > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Com

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread ∄ uǝʃƃ
; > From: Friam on behalf of Gillian Densmore > > > Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > > Date: Friday, July 13, 2018 at 8:39 AM > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > > Subject: [FRIAM] Weir

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
ly-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: Friday, July 13, 2018 at 8:39 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: [FRIAM] Weird observation > > While at doctor's office trying ask a nurse to politely expres

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread ∄ uǝʃƃ
Densmore > > Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > Date: Friday, July 13, 2018 at 8:39 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: [FRIAM] Weird observation > > While at doctor's office trying ask a nurse to politely exp

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
. From: Friam on behalf of Gillian Densmore Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Friday, July 13, 2018 at 8:39 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Weird observation While at doctor's office trying ask a nurse to politely

[FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread Gillian Densmore
While at doctor's office trying ask a nurse to politely express to a doctor that it comes off as rude when that doc is obssed with a computer gets a reaction like you've invented warp drive. Is it really that unusual for people to try to actively be cordial these days? If so captian we got a