Carl Tollander wrote:
That is very nearly a tautology.
NST replies:
You mean:
All thoughts are morbid
This is a thought
This thought is morbid?
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Dear Dave
I'm not entirely sure that Vedic philosophy extends to ruling out a
distinction between living and non-living. For example there is an ancient
Vedic verse which states that all life exists to be consumed. Presumably
meaning that the end result of the food chain is that we are all dead
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Steve,
Yes, I think co-evolution is as 'simple as declaring them to be singular
(taken as a whole
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Nick - I am too much a Vedic/Buddhist to take seriously the idea that
there distinction between living and non-living. But not to despair
- the end result is all living.
davew
On Wed, 11 May 2011 10:35
On May 9, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Russ Abbott wrote:
I'm hoping you will help me think through this apparently simple question.
When we use the term evolution, we have something in mind that we all seem to
understand. But I'd like to ask this question: what is it that evolves?
Any attribute of a
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On May 9, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Russ Abbott wrote:
I'm hoping you will help me think through this apparently simple question.
When we use the term evolution, we have something in mind that we
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Steve,
Yes, I think co-evolution is as 'simple as declaring them to be singular
(taken as a whole subsystem
Well, then I read you wrong. Sorry. N
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Lots to respond to. First
The answer to my question of the scientific explanation for how voids are
filled is presumably the usual story of reproductive advantage as, in
effect, the definition for how well a void's template is matched -- to use
Dave's terminology. That's not quite circular in that it defines how well a
Of Russ Abbott
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The answer to my question of the scientific explanation for how voids are
filled is presumably the usual story of reproductive advantage as, in
effect
pages are a wonderfully lyrical paean to an ecological view
of interacting organisms (his English river bank).
Bruce Sherwood
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This is a brain fart, isn't it. Oh Dear.
Nick
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I'll take a stab at Russ's question, What's
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Bruce,
Suddenly can't think what the evidence would be for most mutations are
lethal. Given the tremendous capacity of the developmental system to
absorb variation and produce a common result, how would we know
Of Steve Smith
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Dear old bald guy with big eyebrows (aka Nick)..
I'm becoming an old bald guy myself with earlobes that are
sagging and a nose that continues
Lots to respond to. First of all, Nick, why do you say I am discarding the
distinction between living and non-living. I don't recall saying that.
To Dave's point:
By fitness I mean nothing more than 'void filling' ... There is no
process anymore than there is a process when water in a
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A couple of other questions then:
What is devolution
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Dear old bald guy with big eyebrows (aka Nick)..
I'm becoming an old bald guy myself with earlobes that are sagging and a
nose that continues to grow despite the rest of his face not so much. I
look forward
everything! Our Maker is
given to irony.
Nick
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Dear old bald guy with big eyebrows (aka Nick)..
I'm becoming an old bald guy myself with earlobes that are sagging
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Dear old bald guy with big eyebrows (aka Nick)..
I'm becoming an old bald guy myself with earlobes that are
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Dear old bald guy with big eyebrows (aka Nick)..
I'm becoming an old bald guy myself with earlobes that are
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I'm hoping you will help me think through this apparently simple question.
When we use the term *evolution*, we have something in mind that we all seem
to understand. But I'd like to ask this question: what is it that evolves?
We generally mean more by *evolution *than just that change
Russ,
Good questions. I'm hoping Nick will speak up, but I'll hand wave a little, and
get more specific if he does not.
This is one of the points by which a whole host of conceptual confusions enter
the discussion of evolutionary theory. Often people do not quite know what they
are asserting,
Russ,
I hope has been clear to everybody from the start that I am not a proper
biologist. My degree is in psychology and my postdoctoral year was as an
ethologist. I will leave it to Eric to tell you the same thing about
himself.
If you ask me on my best days, I will say that what
A couple of other questions then:
What is devolution? Is that a legitimate word in this discussion, if
not why not, etc
and
Does evolution really just mean change, and if so why is there a
different word for it?
ie:
If evolution means 'positive sustainable change' who is deciding what
is
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A couple of other questions then:
What is devolution? Is that a legitimate word in this discussion, if not why
not, etc
and
Does evolution really just
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