Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Prof David West
Liminal --> use the analogy Schrodinger's cat, until the box is opened, the cat is both alive and dead and neither alive nor dead, it is betwixt and between. That is a kind of binary liminality. Generalize from that to N-ary space. von Gennep was talking about rights of passage — of which few

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
Excellent! Thanks. It does make the analogy a little more defensible if the couplings between the locally structured Ising models (chained together by common variables) can be relaxed, maybe allowing mixed phase whole models. On 4/2/20 11:31 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > One might have a

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
"Liminal etc." What?? Morelocks of Friam unite. That I could transliterate. --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... / --- ..-. / ..-. .-. .. .- -- / ..- -. .. - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom meeting Fridays 9:30a-12p Mountain USA

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Prof David West
Liminal comes to mind as well - from von Gennep's discussion of rights of passage. Separation (from all that was, including individual identity) Liminal (where all things are possible) Incorporation (reintegration into a new reality). You are supposed to have a guide through the Liminal in

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Marcus Daniels
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx This re-raises Marcus' contribution to preserving the analogy between phase changes and socio-political upheaval: On 3/23/20 9:48 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fict.2016.00014/full

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
This re-raises Marcus' contribution to preserving the analogy between phase changes and socio-political upheaval: On 3/23/20 9:48 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fict.2016.00014/full I haven't had time to answer a question I have through my own homework.

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Steven A Smith
On 4/2/20 10:20 AM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > I think she does, indirectly. Homeostasis might be easier to maintain with a > diversity of strategies preserved in the milieu. Authoritarianism is a > monotonic forcing structure. As long as there's a vibrant ecology of > revolutionaries throbbing

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
Here's what's in the GDoc: https://zoom.us/j/255049879 https://bit.ly/virtualfriam Maybe one of our Morlocks could put that in the overly long suffix to every. single. post. that. nobody. ever. deletes. when they hit reply? 8^) On 4/2/20 9:31 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > Do you have a Zoom

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Steven A Smith
This just in via Guerin from LocoTopia: Comparative Resilience: 8 Principles for Post-COVID Reconstruction http://michaelhshuman.com/?p=456 On 4/2/20 10:20 AM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > I think she does, indirectly. Homeostasis might be easier to maintain with a > diversity of strategies preserved in

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Steven A Smith
On 4/2/20 10:09 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Dave writes: > > < There are 30,000 known coronaviruses in the animal population just > waiting for the opportune moment to jump species. > > I knew there was a way to solve the climate problem. > > > I don't think Ms. Gaia cares too much about the

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Steven A Smith
My observation is that from Dickens' "best of times, worst of times".   I think as an inflection/bifurcation point,   many things are possible.  "sensitive dependence on initial conditions".   In the spirit of "creative visualization" and "self-fulfilling prophecies" there are risks and

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Jochen Fromm
Do you have a Zoom meeting tomorrow again?-J. Original message From: thompnicks...@gmail.com Date: 4/2/20 05:01 (GMT+01:00) To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx Not good for the theory.  Yes

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
I think she does, indirectly. Homeostasis might be easier to maintain with a diversity of strategies preserved in the milieu. Authoritarianism is a monotonic forcing structure. As long as there's a vibrant ecology of revolutionaries throbbing underneath, then authoritarianism is A-OK. But if it

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Marcus Daniels
Marcus From: Friam on behalf of Prof David West Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:05 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx It is kind of interesting that the religious fundamentalists seem to be in denial with regard Covid. I

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
I've seen a few articles with titles like "Coronavirus is the death of Neoliberalism" or "... Capitalism" and whatnot. I'm skeptical. As much as I reject analogies between societal upheaval/collapse and phases of matter, I do believe in inflection points. My guess is that authoritarianism is

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Prof David West
It is kind of interesting that the religious fundamentalists seem to be in denial with regard Covid. I would have expected more "It's God's wrath" or "The end is nigh" from that sector. Even if we hit the 2 million dead in the US, and 5% of the population immune, that leaves 95% at severe risk

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-01 Thread Frank Wimberly
As it approaches the peak the derivative will decrease. We're not there yet. --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 9:33 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Exponential with increasing derivative. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Wed, Apr

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-01 Thread Frank Wimberly
Exponential with increasing derivative. --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 9:01 PM wrote: > Not good for the theory. > > > > Yes, Tom. That theory. > > > > Nick > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group

[FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-01 Thread thompnickson2
Not good for the theory. Yes, Tom. That theory. Nick Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx Description: MS-Excel 2007 spreadsheet FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College