Dave and Ed
Thanks for making me aware of the options. My plan is to stay in my present
house until the end. This should be possible if I don't have a contagious
final illness.
Frank
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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM
On Mon, May 4, 2020,
Most elder facilities do not require the huge buy in. In NM there are a large
number of smaller facilities that can house up to ten people and are much less
expensive. There are also larger ones that are pretty good that don’t have a
buy in and charge less than 6K/month although are still out
half Of Prof David West
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Frank,
When looking for a facility for my mother, I found a lot of the 200K / 6K per
month facilities, but more than 3/4 of the facilities that exist ar
Frank,
When looking for a facility for my mother, I found a lot of the 200K / 6K per
month facilities, but more than 3/4 of the facilities that exist are subsidized
and they simply take between 40 and 80% of the patient's social security and
retirement income.
I am pretty certain that the
Dave
Maybe I lack adequate knowledge of the variety of care centers but the ones
I know charge something like $200,000 admission and $6000 per month. Maybe
you mean "somewhat poor OR already warehoused..."
Frank
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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa
The lesson might be if you are willing to lose the old people who are somewhat
poor and already warehoused in overcrowded care facilities you don't have to
lock down.
On Sun, May 3, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> Sounds like the lesson is that if you're willing to lose old people
Hi Gary,
I would put up this one as a constructive reply to your link below, not to
counter but to add alongside:
https://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/the-power-of-community-how-cuba-survived-peak-oil-2006/
Eric -
> I would put up this one as a constructive reply to your link below,
> not to counter but to add alongside:
> https://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/the-power-of-community-how-cuba-survived-peak-oil-2006/
> I am pretty sure I have posted this to the list in the past, but it
> remains a
Gary, he's on CNN (Cable) on Sunday mornings. I'm not sure how to get it
anywhere later.
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 11:03 AM Gary Schiltz
wrote:
> Merle, I'd like to watch that interview. Do you watch Fareed over cable or
> satellite, or over the internet?
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 11:55 AM Merle
David, thanks for your thoughtful response. The film does present a very
simplified, and probably elitist and naive view. I will have a look at the
film you referenced and reflect my thoughts back here.
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 4:49 PM David Eric Smith wrote:
> Hi Gary,
>
> I would put up this
Sounds like the lesson is that if you're willing to lose old people you
don't have to lock down. As an old person I have my doubts about that
approach. In the last three days one of my highschool classmates died of
covid related causes and a first cousin died of a heart attack with no
known
Merle, I'd like to watch that interview. Do you watch Fareed over cable or
satellite, or over the internet?
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 11:55 AM Merle Lefkoff
wrote:
> Nick, the only mainstream news program I watch is Fareed Zakaria on Sunday
> morning. Below is part of this morning's report. Not
Sorry Steve, I quoted the Wrong Wrant :-) Rest assured, though, that it was
my intention to complement Your Rant. David, your rant was good as well.
Always the diplomat,
Gary
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 11:53 AM Steven A Smith wrote:
> Gary -
>
> Watching now... but THIS rant was Eric's not mine...
Nick, the only mainstream news program I watch is Fareed Zakaria on Sunday
morning. Below is part of this morning's report. Not surprisingly (for
those of us who have had the privilege recently of spending time in
Sweden), the answer to how it's working, is just about like the countries
that are
Gary -
Watching now... but THIS rant was Eric's not mine... mine was previous
and more rambly!
- Steve
> Great rant/stream of consciousness as usual, Steve! Has anyone watched
> this five minute video yet? A bit utopian, but maybe not...
> https://vimeo.com/411278238
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at
No, Frank, the PRESENT economy might collapse, not the economy. The word
"economy" comes from the Greek for "house" and "manage". Nothing about the
present economy suggest household management.
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 10:47 AM Frank Wimberly wrote:
> Nick,
>
> I suspect that if people only did
I can’t weave a grand diorama that has the meaning of everything in it, and
anything I try will come out a mess. So let me try for Less is More.
I think part of this is habit and commitments. Somehow the society has to sort
out a predictable way to arrive at who has a right to consume how
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https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 6:23 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
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I can’t weave a grand dior
gt;> Clark University
>> thompnicks...@gmail.com
>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Steven A Smith
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:00 PM
>> *To:* friam@redfish.com
>> *Subj
Early this year, Pornhub claimed to have close to 2 petabytes of video. Other
sources suggested it was barely over 1 petabyte. Pornhub is the largest, but
only one of several thousand sites serving this kind of video.
davew
On Sat, May 2, 2020, at 10:06 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Steve
Friam *On Behalf Of *Steven A Smith
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:00 PM
> *To:* friam@redfish.com
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] ill-conceived question
>
> Dave -
>> I once taught an honors course, with Father Smith at St. Thomas on the
>> Anthropology and Theology of War. One
t;>> Nicholas Thompson
>>>>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>>>>> Clark University
>>>>> thompnicks...@gmail.com
>>>>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>>>>>
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Great rant/stream of consciousness as usual, Steve! Has anyone watched this
five minute video yet? A bit utopian, but maybe not...
https://vimeo.com/411278238
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 7:23 AM David Eric Smith wrote:
> I can’t weave a grand diorama that has the meaning of everything in it,
> and
Its a variation on Parkinson's Law (work expands to fill the time) ...
"Economies expand to keep their populations sedated"
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 10:17 PM Frank Wimberly wrote:
> Nick,
>
> I suspect that if people only did what they 'need to do' the economy would
> collapse.
>
> On Sat, May
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https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:00 PM
To: friam@redfish.com
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Steve writes:
< Hard-line "invisible hand of the market"-eers will insist that if it exists
in our economy, that it *must* be of interest/value/use to *many* (or at least
some). Invoking the idiom of "follow the money", I agree that we *can* follow
a chain of implied value that leads from the
Ethology and Psychology
>>>>
>>>> Clark University
>>>>
>>>> thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>>>>
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t;
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com>
>>
>> https://wordpress.clarku.ed
Nick -
I contemplate this question regularly. "What means 'the economy' ?"
The way it is bandied about in the public media and among most circles I
listen to, it is this big hairball of exchange of goods and services
facilitated by "money", both in the form of currency and credit. Yet
it is
gt; Nicholas Thompson
>>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>>> Clark University
>>> thompnicks...@gmail.com
>>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Marcus Daniels
Major investors lose little — certainly as a percentage of wealth — because
they have the super-high speed systems and insider status to ameliorate their
loses. As always, it is the smaller investor that cannot trade in milliseconds,
but in minutes and hours, that loses the most.
davew
On
>>> Nicholas Thompson
>>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>>> Clark University
>>> thompnicks...@gmail.com
>>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Ma
gt;>
>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com>
>>
>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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>>
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ill-conceived question
Would the rich, with proportionally more in the stock market, be disadvantaged
by drops in stock prices? I suppose, on the other hand, they would tend to have
enough cash or equivalent to to take advantage of the price drops to buy stocks
gt;
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Prof David West
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:02 PM
> *To:* friam@redfish.com
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] ill-conceived question
>
>
>
> I once taught an honors course, with Father Smith at St. Thomas on the
> Anthropol
id West
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ill-conceived question
I once taught an honors course, with Father Smith at St. Thomas on the
Anthropology and Theology of War. One of the prime forces behind war — since
prehistory — had been nothing mor
*On Behalf Of *Marcus Daniels
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 2, 2020 12:15 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] ill-conceived question
>
> < You recall that I invoked as a model that experiment in which 24 rats were
> put in a q
heir work. Or are WE THEY?
>
> Nick
>
>
> Nicholas Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
> Clark University
> thompnicks...@gmail.com
> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Gary Schiltz
From: Friam On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 1:32 PM
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Example of the government just getting in the way.
https://www.lansingcitypulse.com/stories/msu-researchers-
at 12:19 PM
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The economy is collapsing right now. It has positive side effects like clean
air in L.A. and Beijing, but right now it is collapsing.
-J.
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Nick,I suspect that if people only did what they 'need to do' the economy would
collapse.On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 10:34 AM
wrote:Colleagues, I have asked this question before and nobody has responded
(for clear and good reasons, no doubt) but I thought I would ask
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< You recall that I invoked as a model that experiment in which 24 rats were
put in a q
Schiltz
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:38 AM
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Hey Nick, did you mean your question to apply to mostly the USA? Europe? Asia?
Africa? South America? Although I keep up a little bit with
< You recall that I invoked as a model that experiment in which 24 rats were
put in a quarter acre enclosure in Baltimore and fed and watered and protected
to see how the population would develop. They never got above two hundred. >
Maybe the rats were right?
Marcus
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ill-conceived question
Nick, What lessons do you take away from the rat experiment? Certainly,
breeders can use space differently from natural populations. But that isn't
surprising. If the natural den
I hope it didn't sound like I was yelling at you, Nick :-) Given the state
of the economy here in northern South America, your question a little too
USA-centric. And my response was obviously from a different perspective. I
actually don't know what the state of the US economy is right now. For
Hey Nick, did you mean your question to apply to mostly the USA? Europe?
Asia? Africa? South America? Although I keep up a little bit with what's
going on in the USA and a bit more about Europe, lately my familiarity is
more with Ecuador and to a lesser extent the rest of South America. Down
here,
Nick writes:
< It seems to me that the difference between a “healthy” economy and our
present status consists possibly in nothing more than a lot of people
frantically rushing about doing things they don’t really need to do? >
It is true I don’t need a haircut. But there’s gal who cuts my
Nick, What lessons do you take away from the rat experiment? Certainly,
breeders can use space differently from natural populations. But that isn't
surprising. If the natural density of a rat population is 200/quarter acre,
what do you make of that, and why do you think it's important?
P.S. I'm
Nick,
I suspect that if people only did what they 'need to do' the economy would
collapse.
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 10:34 AM wrote:
> Colleagues,
>
>
>
> I have asked this question before and nobody has responded (for clear and
> good reasons, no doubt) but I thought I would ask it again. What
Colleagues,
I have asked this question before and nobody has responded (for clear and
good reasons, no doubt) but I thought I would ask it again. What exactly is
this economy we are bent on reviving? What exactly is the difference in
human activity between our present state and a revived
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