[FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and conservatism)

2007-08-14 Thread Glen E. P. Ropella
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 How about if I use my own form of carbon offset? E.g. if I drive our Honda Civic or my motorcycle, then I can go 75mph; but if I drive my V8, I stick to 55mph? Do I qualify as a non-posturing non-demagogue? Or, perhaps at least a posturing

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and conservatism)

2007-08-14 Thread Robert Holmes
Creating no emissions? Really? Wow - you must be generating the electricity for your car from one of those zero-emission power stations we keep hoping for. R On 8/14/07, Marcus G. Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glen E. P. Ropella wrote: How about if I use my own form of carbon offset?

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and conservatism)

2007-08-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Robert Holmes wrote: Creating no emissions? Really? Wow - you must be generating the electricity for your car from one of those zero-emission power stations we keep hoping for. Like this one? It's been around a while. :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hoover_dam_from_air_corrected.jpg

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and conservatism)

2007-08-14 Thread Glen E. P. Ropella
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Holmes wrote: Creating no emissions? Really? Wow - you must be generating the electricity for your car from one of those zero-emission power stations we keep hoping for. You purposefully _choose_ to mis-interpret Marcus' words? Your

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and conservatism)

2007-08-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
my bad, partially: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7046 In a study to be published in /Mitigation and Adaptation Strategies for Global Change/, Fearnside estimates that in 1990 the greenhouse effect of emissions from the Curuá-Una dam in Pará, Brazil, was more than

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and conservatism)

2007-08-14 Thread Robert Holmes
So I take it you've not been following the literature on levels of CO2 and methane emissions from hydroelectric plants? ( http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7046 for example). There's an enormous pulse in greenhouse gases when the reservoir is flooded and trees and vegetation rot. In some

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and conservatism)

2007-08-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Robert Holmes wrote: There's an enormous pulse in greenhouse gases when the reservoir is flooded and trees and vegetation rot. In some cases this represents more lifetime emissions than if you'd been running an oil or gas plant. I wonder in how many cases? Seems like it would greatly depend

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and conservatism)

2007-08-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Hmm, however big the pulse is, it needs to be compared to the lifetime of the dam, and that could be in centuries.. So for one thing 1) the damage has been done, and 2) any decay of vegetation that grows and dies as the water goes up and down, will be matched to some extent by the CO2