Re: [FRIAM] The rise and fall of the Microsoft empire

2013-05-18 Thread Gillian Densmore
yes and no, Apple has had issues with gaining market dominance-and not from lack of effort or deep pockets they've have a dodgy history with gamers for instance who are willing to spend lots of money on software and a bit on hardware. One common argument is something like oh but you can custom

Re: [FRIAM] The rise and fall of the Microsoft empire

2013-05-18 Thread Prof David West
There has been a lot written about the demise of MS - with many giving them about five more years of semi-dominance. Steve Ballmer consistently takes the top spot on the list of CEOs who should be fired, MS stock has been on a long down slide since Ballmer took over, the board has no

Re: [FRIAM] The rise and fall of the Microsoft empire

2013-05-18 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 5/18/13 8:21 AM, Prof David West wrote: MS stock has been on a long down slide since Ballmer took over [..] Not so bad lately..

Re: [FRIAM] The rise and fall of the Microsoft empire

2013-05-18 Thread Owen Densmore
Oddly enough, if I had to take a long term bet on dominance, I'd be tempted to chose Amazon! They're the tortoise in the race, slow and steady. They are considering a phone .. and not the slick Facebook stunt of an app that is your Home screen. They already have book readers and tablets,

Re: [FRIAM] The rise and fall of the Microsoft empire

2013-05-18 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 5/18/13 10:04 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: Microsoft has false dominance and its slipping fast. Although Amazon is on top of the infrastructure as a service market, Microsoft is much better positioned to control the software as a service world. This is because they control the most common

Re: [FRIAM] The rise and fall of the Microsoft empire

2013-05-18 Thread Jochen Fromm
Well, yes the stock price is usually a good indicator how people judge the chance of future success. Maybe I am wrong? My doubts were based on the following observations: a) Microsoft successfully managed to alienate many of their loyal developers and now even their main customers, i.e. small

Re: [FRIAM] The rise and fall of the Microsoft empire

2013-05-18 Thread Jochen Fromm
Oops, a typo. I meant of course There main software is called Office, and it is used in offices. The new Windows 8 does not fit well into traditional offices. On 05/18/2013 08:42 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: Well, yes the stock price is usually a good indicator how people judge the chance of future

Re: [FRIAM] The rise and fall of the Microsoft empire

2013-05-18 Thread Jochen Fromm
Aargh Their main software of course. You see English is not my first language :-( Sorry. On 05/18/2013 08:45 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: Oops, a typo. I meant of course There main software is called Office, and it is used in offices. The new Windows 8 does not fit well into traditional offices.