Re: [FRIAM] REPOST: The meaning of inner.

2008-07-20 Thread Jochen Fromm
If you were to go about programming a computer to think about itself, how would you do it? Even if we program a computer to think about itself, the computer would be extremely bored, because he is as intelligent as a cash register or washing machine. He just follows commands, only extremely

Re: [FRIAM] REPOST: The meaning of inner.

2008-07-20 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Jochen Fromm wrote: Since a brain contains more than 100 billion neurons, each pattern is a vast collection of nearly invisible little things or processes. For comparison, LANL Roadrunner has about 5 trillion transistors for the CPUs (~13000 PowerXCell 8i processors and ~6500 dual core

Re: [FRIAM] LatexRender Friends: Math Servers

2008-07-20 Thread Dale Schumacher
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Owen Densmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is now (apparently!) possible to include arbitrary LaTeX equations in any web service: blogs, wikis, plain html, and even mime-email. The stunt is to build an image tag in html which includes the LaTeX to be

Re: [FRIAM] REPOST: The meaning of inner.

2008-07-20 Thread Ken Lloyd
With a little reorganization and forethought, you can even have your own mini-supercomputer using banks of GPU cards to crunch vectors and matrices. See Nvidia's CUDA development system, and their Tesla computer system. - Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[FRIAM] BigIron vs BigWet was: The meaning of inner.

2008-07-20 Thread Steve Smith
Prediction: BigIron (silicon) games will play on for some time yet. BigWet (neural tissue) will continue to rule. As a long-time player in the various games of UberDuber computing at LANL, starting (spiritually) with Metropolis' MANIAC and currently playing there with RoadRunner, I continue

Re: [FRIAM] REPOST: The meaning of inner.

2008-07-20 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Jochen Fromm wrote: I think it is much more difficult to use a supercomputer with a trillion operations per second than a huge cluster of ordinary computers, as you can find them in Google's data centers. One code for investigating synthetic cognition is called PetaVision. This code was

Re: [FRIAM] BigIron vs BigWet was: The meaning of inner.

2008-07-20 Thread Steve Smith
FYI... a few of my publications that are in the general vicinity of this topic. Smith S, Watt RC, Hameroff SR. Cellular automata in cytoskeletal lattice proteins. Physica D, 1984; 10:l68-l74. Johnson, N. L., Rasmussen, S., Joslyn, C., Rocha, L., Smith, S., Kantor, M. (1998). "Symbiotic

Re: [FRIAM] BigIron vs BigWet was: The meaning of inner.

2008-07-20 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Steve Smith wrote: I'm just a bit further from looking into the room where the RoadRunner is installed and waiting for it to say What are you doing Dave (Steve)? as I reach for the 6inch diameter bundles feeding it power and connections to the outside world. Btw, I understand the way they

Re: [FRIAM] REPOST: The meaning of inner.

2008-07-20 Thread Jochen Fromm
In my opinion, biologically detailed large-scale models of the brain offer little value if the system is not embedded in a physical world. It is a first step in the right direction to examine vision. The brain is an adaptive system which becomes useless if it is cut off the environment. This