[FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

2010-07-28 Thread Pamela McCorduck
Does there exist a rating agency or group that rates IT certification programs the way several such groups exist for colleges and universities? My son-in-law wishes to upgrade his skills, but we're very concerned that some of the programs are nothing but fancy scams. Thanks, Pamela God

Re: [FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

2010-07-28 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Pamela McCorduck wrote circa 10-07-28 11:00 AM: Does there exist a rating agency or group that rates IT certification programs the way several such groups exist for colleges and universities? My son-in-law wishes to upgrade his skills, but we're very concerned that some of the programs are

Re: [FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

2010-07-28 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 7/28/10 12:35 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: I know this is a deflection; but certification is an artifact for credibility and reputation, not skills. If it's actual skills he seeks, then doing is much more important than certifying. e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivien_Thomas

Re: [FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

2010-07-28 Thread Grant Holland
I completely agree with Glen. Grant glen e. p. ropella wrote: Pamela McCorduck wrote circa 10-07-28 11:00 AM: Does there exist a rating agency or group that rates IT certification programs the way several such groups exist for colleges and universities? My son-in-law wishes to upgrade his

Re: [FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

2010-07-28 Thread Prof David West
Pamela, my replies do not seem to get posted to the list, so I included your direct address. There is no rating or accrediting body for certifications. The ACM/IEEE could and perhaps should do this, but they have a conflict of interest in that they offer their own set of certifications. You

Re: [FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

2010-07-28 Thread Grant Holland
Dave, What is your opinion about certification in the Java world at this point? Grant Prof David West wrote: Pamela, my replies do not seem to get posted to the list, so I included your direct address. There is no rating or accrediting body for certifications. The ACM/IEEE could and

Re: [FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

2010-07-28 Thread Roger Critchlow
ACM Technotes reported today: Java/J2EE is the programming and developing skill in most demand with more than 14,000 open job positions nationally, according to a July report from IT job board Dice. -- rec -- On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Grant Holland grant.holland...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

2010-07-28 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
Pamela I've seen some IT organizations require PMI certification (project management skills). See http://www.pmi.org/AboutUs/Pages/About-PMI.aspx Thanks Robert C On 7/28/10 12:00 PM, Pamela McCorduck wrote: Does there exist a rating agency or group that rates IT certification programs the

Re: [FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

2010-07-28 Thread Edward Angel
I'd worry about about how to use that number. The prevailing view in both academic departments and industry is that Java is on its way out. For the kinds of things that Java is good at, scripting languages have advanced so much that they are replacing Java. For large scale applications,

Re: [FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

2010-07-28 Thread Grant Holland
Ed, Actually, I'd beg to differ with you on that issue I just spent the last ten years building large scale commercial systems for major F500 companies using enterprise Java. A good example is a major credit card processing services company. We replaced their IBM mainframe COBOL/CICS