Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-26 Thread Russ Abbott
I expected this to have more of an impact than it seems to be having. What am I missing? *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 * blog:

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-26 Thread Grant Holland
Russ, I had the same feeling about my recent missive - entitled Uncertainty vs Information - redux and resolution - in which I too make various claims about information theory. I believe I had only one response - from Eric. I expected more, maybe from Owen and Frank and yourself. The APS

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-26 Thread Rich Murray
As a universal layman, with a BS in physics and history from MIT in 1964, I have always been keenly interested as to the actual deep meaning of quantum theory. Can someone give a simple dynamic geometrical model which can embody these axioms, fleshing out their abstract meanings in a simple way,

[FRIAM] Santa Fe

2011-07-26 Thread Jochen Fromm
I have come across a new (German) article about Santa Fe. It says Santa Fe is special, everyone seems to be an artist, similar to L.A., where everyone is an actor (except Russ, perhaps). All houses are made in the Adobe style, and the St. Miguel chapel, the oldest church of the USA, has a

Re: [FRIAM] Santa Fe

2011-07-26 Thread Marcos
It's a secret. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net wrote: I have come across a new (German) article about Santa Fe. It says Santa Fe is special, everyone seems to be an artist, similar to L.A., where everyone is an actor (except Russ, perhaps). All houses are made

[FRIAM] Where will be The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group?

2011-07-26 Thread Bruce Sherwood
With the St. John's college coffeehouse closed, will there be a Friday AM meeting somewhere else in Santa Fe this Friday? Bruce FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures,

Re: [FRIAM] Santa Fe

2011-07-26 Thread Douglas Roberts
Yes, everybody here is special. --Doug On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net wrote: I have come across a new (German) article about Santa Fe. It says Santa Fe is special, everyone seems to be an artist, similar to L.A., where everyone is an actor (except Russ,

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-26 Thread Russell Standish
Of course, I published a paper in 2004 (Why Occams Razor) doing essentially the same thing (I expanded on this somewhat in my 2006 book, Theory of Nothing). I would also say, that Lucien Hardy did something similar in 2001 (Quantum theory from five reasonable axioms). Also, there have been other

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-26 Thread Grant Holland
Exciting, Russ. I've downloaded your 2004 paper http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0001020v6, and will take a look. Thanks, Grant On 7/26/11 3:16 PM, Russell Standish wrote: Of course, I published a paper in 2004 (Why Occams Razor) doing essentially the same thing (I expanded on this somewhat in my

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-26 Thread Rich Murray
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/332557/title/Quantum_theory_gets_physical Quantum theory gets physical New work finds physical basis for quantum mechanics By Devin Powell Web edition : Tuesday, July 19th, 2011 Physicists in Canada and Italy have derived quantum mechanics from

Re: [FRIAM] Santa Fe

2011-07-26 Thread Robert Holmes
Is that special or special? —Robert On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: Yes, everybody here is special. --Doug FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St.

Re: [FRIAM] Santa Fe

2011-07-26 Thread Douglas Roberts
Either that, or precious. Sort of like FRIAM, come to think of it. On Jul 26, 2011 5:58 PM, Robert Holmes rob...@holmesacosta.com wrote: Is that special or special? —Robert On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net wrote: Yes, everybody here is special. --Doug

Re: [FRIAM] Santa Fe

2011-07-26 Thread Gary Schiltz
Actually, I was thinking priceless. ;; Gary On Jul 26, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: Either that, or precious. Sort of like FRIAM, come to think of it. On Jul 26, 2011 5:58 PM, Robert Holmes rob...@holmesacosta.com wrote: Is that special or special? —Robert On Tue,

Re: [FRIAM] Where will be The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group?

2011-07-26 Thread Tom Johnson
Yes, at Downtown Subscription. -tom johnson On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Bruce Sherwood bruce.sherw...@gmail.comwrote: With the St. John's college coffeehouse closed, will there be a Friday AM meeting somewhere else in Santa Fe this Friday? Bruce