reluctant spiritual exploration: Day 283 Science and Health, Chapter 12
Thursday: Mary Baker Eddy: Frank J. Ellis: Rich Murray 2013.10.10
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2013/10/reluctant-spiritual-exploration-day-283.html
My first dogmatism in life was modern science, embraced eagerly after my
[Cleaning up the very last of the old email]
Arlo? Are you back from summer camp on the ISS or somewhere equally
amazing?
Oh man, I wish!I was somewhere only marginally less awesome, a Santa Fe
Institute summer camp...in Groton, Massachusetts. Some more details
At Friam today, we had our first discussion of entropy in a while. It was
like old times. I really enjoyed it.
But the following disagreement came up. I am, I think, a bit of what
philosophers call an essentialist. In other words, I assume that when
people use the same words for two
Owen sed:
I wonder how they deduce which areas are used for what purpose? They
stated several cases but w/o explanation, I think.
Taking this to FRIAM where introspective, tangential maunderings are
more tolerated.
I'm sure they knew a *huge* amount about ant colony structure and
function
I'd say bollocks to that. Entropy is clearly information in
disguise. That changes in it can also be related to the amount of heat
processed at a given temperature is also something that comes out of
considering rearrangements of kinetic molecular motion, and ultimately
gives rise to the well
Nice to see the list is still alive :-) Entropy as
information in disguise. Interesting. Isn't Entropy
related to disorder, that is to say lack of information?
-J.
On 10/11/2013 11:10 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
I'd say bollocks to that. Entropy is clearly information in
disguise. That changes
All --
Ah, entropy . . .
A couple of references:
http://bayes.wustl.edu/etj/articles/gibbs.vs.boltzmann.pdf
http://charlottewerndl.net/Entropy_Guide.pdf
A couple of quotes from the E. T. Jaynes article (gibbs.vs.boltzmann
reference above):
It is interesting that
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0200, Jochen Fromm wrote:
Nice to see the list is still alive :-) Entropy as
information in disguise. Interesting. Isn't Entropy
related to disorder, that is to say lack of information?
-J.
Something like that. The exact relationship is
S + I = SM
where
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote:
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0200, Jochen Fromm wrote:
Nice to see the list is still alive :-) Entropy as
information in disguise. Interesting. Isn't Entropy
related to disorder, that is to say lack of
Tom Carter sed:
p.s. Pedagogical question: An exercise I do in class from time to
time is to ask this question: What would Avogadro's Number have
been if the French Revolution had failed? (Justify your answer . .
.) (Hint: step 1: what possible relation might those have to each
Speaking of which, I have very fond memory of avacodo's number being
prepared at the table at a restaurant just outside Santa Fe that Andy
Wuensche took me to.
Cheers
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 04:08:18PM -0600, Steve Smith wrote:
I have a question for you...
If Avogadro's number is a
Russel -
Speaking of which, I have very fond memory of avacodo's number being
prepared at the table at a restaurant just outside Santa Fe that Andy
Wuensche took me to.
That's gotta be Gabriel's (unless it was more than 20 years ago, then it
was likely the same location then called Los
Merle -
Thanks for the link to your TedX talk...
I certainly was inspired by the sentiments expressed in general but was
hoping for a more direct connection with Complexity Science... Is
there anything written up, making a deeper connection perhaps?
- Steve
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 04:53:35PM -0600, Steve Smith wrote:
Russel -
Speaking of which, I have very fond memory of avacodo's number being
prepared at the table at a restaurant just outside Santa Fe that Andy
Wuensche took me to.
That's gotta be Gabriel's (unless it was more than 20
Russell -
Probably Gabriel's. It was 15 years ago. And still the best I've ever
tasted. Cheers
And it is the ultimate in open source... all the ingredients and the
method of preparation are presented to you completely transparently...
and somehow, nobody else seems to be able to beat it!
I
Steve -
Mostly going for other units (I like oz-mols . . . but I also like the
teaspoon-mol -- what it might have been if the British had taken charge . . .
:-) -- but going in the direction of something like science as an embodied,
social/political activity, etc., etc. . . .
Also,
Nick writes, in relevant part:
I am, I think, a bit of what
philosophers call an essentialist. In other words, I assume that when
people use the same words for two things, it aint for nothing, that there is
something underlying the surface that makes those two things the same. So,
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 08:49:44PM -0400, lrudo...@meganet.net wrote:
Most recently, I've been going through the same exercise
(again for a chapter, now not in a book of my own) for
recursion and recursive. Again, I have accumulated
... what a mess!
Back in the day when I was teaching
My contract is up at Vzn .. where I went to get an iPhone, get a seniors
plan and to have better coverage.
But I'm thinking of going back to Tmo simply because they are doing some
interesting stunts like being honest about the phone contract, and having
digital roaming in europe. And I prefer
OK, I'll bite. Why NOT let entropy simply be an equation that is useful in
certain domains?
I rather like the lack of ambiguity.
-- Owen
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote:
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 08:49:44PM -0400, lrudo...@meganet.net wrote:
OK, I'll bite your bite. For the same reason that the world was outraged
when some experimental psychologists defined emotionality as the number of
turds left in an open field maze by a white rat.
N
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
Do you really feel that turds are equivalent to probability measures?
I can see that a mouse emits more turds when excited, that's fine. It
doesn't lead to measures of security on the internet. It doesn't quantify
information.
And thermodynamics and information theory have made good use of the
This might be a reason to go to T-mobile:
http://boingboing.net/2013/10/10/t-mobile-pitches-unlimited-no.html
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote:
My contract is up at Vzn .. where I went to get an iPhone, get a seniors
plan and to have better coverage.
I saw that .. but found that there is a bit of controversy: the data
roaming is 2G some claim.
To tell the truth, it seem to me that GSM should have world wide roaming ..
data and voice .. to take advantage of their GSM standard. Its quite a
pain to have to get a temp SIM every time I go to
OMIGOSH, no. You complete mistook me. Sorry. I am the last person to
compare math to rat turds. Turds of any kind, for that matter. My
{recently} late big brother was a mathematician. Some of my best friends
(and favorite collaborators) are mathematicians. The point was only that
number of
On 10/11/13 6:22 PM, Tom Carter wrote:
Steve -
Mostly going for other units (I like oz-mols . . . but I also like the
teaspoon-mol -- what it might have been if the British had taken charge . . . :-) -- but going in the
direction of something like science as an embodied, social/political
Lee -
That was fascinating... thanks for sharing a peek into what was clearly
a lot of careful work.
- Steve
Nick writes, in relevant part:
I am, I think, a bit of what
philosophers call an essentialist. In other words, I assume that when
people use the same words for two things, it aint
On the topic of language, this hyperpolyglot's description of his
experience learning/speaking many languages is fascinating:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km9-DiFaxpU
His assertion that he thinks differently when he speaks different
languages and that he begins learning a new language by
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