Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-30 Thread glen ropella
OK. We don't really disagree. But I'll push the point just a tiny bit further and see if it goes anywhere. On 04/29/2013 03:31 PM, Steve Smith wrote: On the other hand, I'm not setting out to *prove* my concept of what is generational, but rather to explain or illuminate it. [...] I'm

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-30 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - OK. We don't really disagree. But I'll push the point just a tiny bit further and see if it goes anywhere. On 04/29/2013 03:31 PM, Steve Smith wrote: On the other hand, I'm not setting out to *prove* my concept of what is generational, but rather to explain or

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-30 Thread glen ropella
On 04/30/2013 12:07 PM, Steve Smith wrote: (how many books do you/father/grandfather own? how much personal correspondence do each of you maintain? how many journal entries (words, lines, pages?) do you average? etc.) I think I can gather some data. I already have a number of questions I ask

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-30 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - I guess at this point, I've proposed a model that is not particularly well validated (by me)... but then that is usually what this level of discussion consists of doesn't it? Speculation about what models *might* have some validity and how they *might* be tested and maybe some anecdotal

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-29 Thread glen
Steve Smith wrote at 04/28/2013 05:50 PM: The second argument is that while generations in the sense of a labeled X, Y, Z or greatest is a bit trite and seems contrived, there is often (maybe more historically than contemporarily) a natural oscillation between parent and child. The old adage

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40 Steve Smith wrote at 04/28/2013 05:50 PM: The second argument is that while generations in the sense of a labeled X, Y, Z or greatest is a bit trite and seems contrived, there is often (maybe more historically than contemporarily

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-29 Thread glen
Nicholas Thompson wrote at 04/29/2013 12:57 PM: The behaviors that we identify with “intent” tend to occur in the context of justification, whereas the behaviors we identify with “behavior” tend to occur in the context of action. I'm not so sure. Generally, I like and agree with your

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-29 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - It also seems (anecdotally) true that parents try to give *their* children what *they* didn't have... again leading to an oscillation in many dimensions with a time constant of roughly the age of reproduction. I often wonder how much of this is perceived oscillation versus actual

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-29 Thread glen
Steve Smith wrote at 04/29/2013 01:59 PM: It is always assumed (at least by me) that (at least my own) anecdotal observations are not just at risk of selective attention, confirmation bias and motivated reasoning, etc. but almost *defined* by it. This might seem like a huge admission or

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-29 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - It is always assumed (at least by me) that (at least my own) anecdotal observations are not just at risk of selective attention, confirmation bias and motivated reasoning, etc. but almost *defined* by it. This might seem like a huge admission or dismissal of my elaborate offerings and

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-28 Thread Arlo Barnes
Going through some old emails and completing and sending drafts I had. I voted for Obama more because he was young than because he was not-white. He is young compared to most presidents, but JFK and Teddy Roosevelt outflanked him, and nobody can go younger than 35 (I don't believe the

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-28 Thread Steve Smith
Arlo - I voted for Obama more because he was young than because he was not-white. He is young compared to most presidents, but JFK and Teddy Roosevelt outflanked him, and nobody can go younger than 35 (I don't believe the 30s-40s barrier has been breached yet). Not that it

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-03 Thread Gary Schiltz
Thanks a lot, dude. The second post that makes me feel incredibly old at 54 :-) I certainly remember life without cell phones, trying to find a public phone and the right change. Incredible how much things can change in such a short time (including the differing perceptions of what constitutes

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-03 Thread Steve Smith
Gary - Thanks a lot, dude. The second post that makes me feel incredibly old at 54 :-) You and me both (56)... I certainly remember life without cell phones, trying to find a public phone and the right change. In my Private Investigator days (late 70s) I carried a fully analog pager and had a

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-03 Thread Douglas Roberts
You want to feel old? Try interacting with the Android development community. The average age of the CyanogenMod community, for example, appears to be about 14 years. I actually heard one of the CM devs refer to one of their senior developers, who turns out to be 30 years old. --Doug On Wed,