RE: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-24 Thread Michael Williamson
On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 20:38, Mike Barushok wrote: (Note to the non-mathematically inclined: Yes, it might seem difficult to believe, but a 4004 processor combined with unlimited (countable) storage, can emulate the fastest super computer, just not in 'real time'). What about a quantum

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-24 Thread Marek Isalski
Michael Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/02/2004 13:30:15 On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 20:38, Mike Barushok wrote: (Note to the non-mathematically inclined: Yes, it might seem difficult to believe, but a 4004 processor combined with unlimited (countable) storage, can emulate the fastest super

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-24 Thread maarten
On Tuesday 24 February 2004 15:02, Marek Isalski wrote: Michael Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/02/2004 13:30:15 On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 20:38, Mike Barushok wrote: Bad analogy time... A non-deterministic Turing Machine is a bit like having an infinite (?probably has to be countable)

[Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-23 Thread Richard M. Smith
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns4696 Chips to ease Microsoft's big security nightmare 10:00 22 February 04 Chip makers are planning a new generation of microprocessors that should plug the gaps that led Microsoft to issue a critical security alert last week. The alert was

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-23 Thread hybriz
first of all, despite of what that news website says, that is old news. second, it's just a page execution bit implementation like other archs have, it doesnt mean that buffer overflows can will be avoided, it just means non-exec stack can be subject of a page-wise implementation (not that it

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-23 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. Richard M. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AMD's Athlon-64 (for PCs) and Opteron (for servers) will protect against buffer overflows when used with a new version of Windows XP. Intel plans similar features on next generation Pentium chips. If I'm not mistaken, this is just about AMD (and

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-23 Thread William Warren
leading to cruddier and more bloated code and yet more security problems..won't it be interesting if these hardware technologies have overflows of their own..:) Richard M. Smith wrote: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns4696 Chips to ease Microsoft's big security nightmare

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-23 Thread hybriz
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows From: Richard M. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:39:10 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's get to the bottom line. Would this page execution bit scheme stop stuff like the Blaster worm? Richard

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-23 Thread Mike Barushok
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, hybriz wrote: Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows From: Richard M. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:39:10 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's get to the bottom line. Would this page execution bit