Re: more from Johns Hopkins

1998-09-03 Thread Ray E. Harrell
Subject: Re: more from Johns Hopkins Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 01:02:11 -0700 From: "Ray E. Harrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: 1 Jay Hanson wrote: IMHO, it's mostly a problem of

Re: Basic Income

1998-09-03 Thread Keith Hudson
I refer to Thomas Lunde's original subject and Ed Weick's comments on it. I'll abstract one para: (EW) This is an idea that goes way back to Major Douglas and the original social credit. I don't think it can happen that way. The reason that the poor have no money is that they are not on

Re: Tactical seperation of free trade in goods and finance capital?

1998-09-03 Thread Eva Durant
I've read the review and have gone back to reread parts of the Manifesto itself. What incredible idealism the Manifesto contains! And what perversions in the name of that idealism have actually occurred! ok, I slept on it and I cannot leave it... what is more Idealism in the

Re: more from Johns Hopkins

1998-09-03 Thread Eva Durant
Even among the former Communists, (good 19th century scientists) this has been turned to a puritanical rigidity If you mean Marx et al, you're wrong. The most picked up and ridiculed of their ideas by contemporaries were those on free love, which they developed from the french utopian

Re: Basic Income

1998-09-03 Thread David Burman
I read with interest Thomas's sun god analogy, which I think is brilliant. I would only add that perhaps our sun god is "the Marketplace" with its "invisible hand." The work ethic is more like an archaic ritual habit in service of this god. The habit, like all habits, formed when our northern

collapse defined

1998-09-03 Thread Jay Hanson
From: Ed Weick [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no doubt many factors that determine whether civilizations collapse slowly like Rome or quickly like the FSU and ex-Yugoslavia. I believe a large factor is ethnic homogeneity. After all, our culture demands that we find someone else to blame. It's

Re: more from Johns Hopkins

1998-09-03 Thread Jay Hanson
From: Ray E. Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have suggested that the traditional Greek solution is not a bad one. Begin with developing the perceptions through the Arts and make work fit the goals of individual and group psycho-physical development. My cynicism about that has This would be an

How did Russia GET plumdered? (fwd)

1998-09-03 Thread Michael Gurstein
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:14:08 -0600 From: "Emilie F. Nichols" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How did Russia GET plumdered? Forbes - September 7, 1998 Russia used to live off its commodities exports. When a handful of privateers got

Re: Re: Basic income

1998-09-03 Thread Thomas Lunde
-Original Message- From: pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 2, 1998 8:46 PM Subject: FW: Re: Basic income "Thomas Lunde" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas: Population is a problem, but I believe that

Basic Income Page 9

1998-09-03 Thread Thomas Lunde
The Numbers In round numbers, Canada’s population is 30 million and if every citizen received the Basic Income, the total cost would be $450 billion. Canada’s current budget is $150 billion leaving a shortfall of $300 billion. Seems pretty impossible, doesn’t it? Just for example, let’s say

Basic Income Page 10

1998-09-03 Thread Thomas Lunde
2. The second feature is the redistribution of income. Currently, income earned from wages is taxed more than income from other sources such as investment and corporate taxes. This has created a major imbalance in that income tax accounts for 70% of government revenue while corporate taxes

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1998-09-03 Thread Thomas Lunde
The Family Basic Income Proposal by Thomas Lunde March 9, 1998 Money, we all need it, but too few of us are getting it. Traditionally, we got money through work or investment. One of the millennium crises, is the collapse of work as a means of getting money for many people. Nowhere is this

Basic Income

1998-09-03 Thread Thomas Lunde
Dear Thomas, How would B I help in these conditions? I'm not trying to razz you, just passing along examples of what I read weekly. Steve Thomas: I'll give it a try. First and foremost the population is out of control - why? Is it religion, cultural beliefs in terms of support for the