Re: Sweatshops

2000-04-17 Thread Cordell . Arthur
-- From: Edward R Weick To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sweatshops Date: Sunday, April 16, 2000 5:57PM Arthur: Maybe I missed it, but have we adequately explored the creation of strong trade unions in these countries, trade unions that are part of a movement

Re: Sweatshops

2000-04-17 Thread Keith Hudson
Ed, At 17:57 16/04/00 -0400, you wrote: (Arthur) Maybe I missed it, but have we adequately explored the creation of strong trade unions in these countries, trade unions that are part of a movement aimed at upward harmonization of living standards?? cut to (Ed) We mustn't forget that unions

Re: Yet another possibility for the wired future....

2000-04-17 Thread M.Blackmore
Interesting you should mention enclosure - just last night I was bouncing some ideas off a local academic economist whilst our kids were playing, as I've been mulling some thoughts (not developed them beyond just mulling) along the lines of: The likes of MicorSoft "enclose" cyberspace, i.e.

insider's view

2000-04-17 Thread Steve Kurtz
The Globe and Mail, Monday, April 17, 2000 Economist guru blasts system Former World Bank insider Joseph Stiglitz says the international financial setup is undemocratic and overly secretive By Barrie McKenna Washington -- Joseph Stiglitz, once a powerful World Bank insider, has crossed the

Re: Sweatshops

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Hollinshead
Hm. I don't know, Ed Sound exactly like the conditions in England in which the Grand National Consolidated Union of the 1820s was created. Remember nine were transported to Australia for their temerity - the Tolpuddle Martyrs. Don't forget the Peterloo Massacre of 1819 either. This was a

Re: Sweatshops

2000-04-17 Thread john courtneidge
The below is why The Fair World Project focuses on setting up co-operative economics, - rather than coercive (capitalist) economics. With community banks and interest-free credit, this can be done. e-hugs john ** -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: Sweatshops

2000-04-17 Thread Brian McAndrews
John McMurtry's recent book "The Cancer Stage of Capitalism" sheds a great deal of light on this issue. Amazon.com will sell you a copy and provide you with a thoughtful review by a member of this list. Brian McAndrews

Re: Sweatshops

2000-04-17 Thread Edward R Weick
Mike, you are obviously a far better historian than I. Nevertheless, I would still argue that there were possibilities implicit in western Europe that are now not possible in much of the developing world. From what little I've read of it, the industrial revolution led to tremendous upheavals,

Re: FW: / BI: Harry Pollard and Philosophy

2000-04-17 Thread Robert Rosenstein
Keith, in commenting on my response to Harry Pollard, wrote: "This is a crude way of interpreting history." I was not interpreting history. I was criticizing the idea of the use of philosophy as a methodology of solving very immediate and practical problems. It is true that certain

Re: Sweatshops

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Hollinshead
Ed, The more you describe what you believe to have been the situation historically in Europe, the more I see parallels in contemporay East Asia, India and Latin America. Tremendous technological change forcing tremendous economic and social change, and, instead of the philosophes the Modern