Re: FW Repeat request

1998-07-25 Thread AR Gouin
At 10:58 98-07-24 +0100, S. Lerner wrote: I had only one response to the message below (many thanks, Bob--I'm still digesting your ideas). Is everyone at the cottage? I know that FWers must have some really great sites to suggest--including some of your own. So send me some suggestions--we

Re: FW Some hard thoughts about Basic Income 1

1998-03-02 Thread AR Gouin
At 09:30 98-03-01 -0500, Thomas Lunde wrote: To answer Andres multiplication of population by Basic Income Grant is answered by the explanation that everyone is entitled to the Basic Income, given that they have no income or income below the basic income amount. This in essence puts an economic

Re: Fw Some hard questions about Basic Income 1

1998-02-28 Thread AR Gouin
My suggestion of starting the Basic Income with the 18-25 year old was hinting at a possible point of departure. Let them (our youth) do with it the way they see fit. I'm sure it couldn't be worst. Who knows, true "educators" might just emerge from such a crowd of liberated (financially) youths.

RE: FW Some hard thoughts on a Basic Income 1

1998-02-28 Thread AR Gouin
At 13:14 98-02-26 -0500, Bob McDaniel wrote: Books by Beniger (The Control Revolution) and Kelly (Out of Control) suggest, to me, the popularization of the ideas of cybernetics (communication and control). Absorption by the general populace of such ideas, reflected in current art (drugs and

Re: FW Some hard questions about a Basic Income 1

1998-02-28 Thread AR Gouin
At 08:48 98-02-27 -0800, Tom Walker wrote: A $1000 GAI is $30 billion IF AND ONLY IF you account for it as an additional cost, over and above current program spending. By the same token, a bicycle may look expensive IF you already own and maintain a car and will continue to do so after you buy

Re: FW Some hard questions about a Basic Income 1

1998-02-26 Thread AR Gouin
At 13:03 98-02-25 -0800, Tom Walker wrote: Jim Dator expressed his interest in documenting the early debates and responses to automation. The termed reputedly was coined in the early 1950s by a guy named Diebold (can't find his first name at the moment). What to do about automation was a big

Re: FW - Some hard questions about a Basic Income 1

1998-02-21 Thread AR Gouin
At 19:00 98-02-19 -0500, Thomas Lunde wrote: Given that the concept of a Basic Income, Guaranteed Annual Income or some other variant on this theme, what would the philosophy be that could justify giving every man, woman and child a Basic Income paid on a weekly basis with no other

Re: Theobald speech text for Toronto (fwd)

1998-01-16 Thread AR Gouin
At 13:01 98-01-13 -0500, Arthur Cordell wrote: in futurework list -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:04:35 -0800 From: Robert Theobald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: text of speech to be given in Toronto After

Pcstyle to understand economics (or at least know why I don't :)

1998-01-14 Thread AR Gouin
At 13:29 98-01-12 -0500, P.A. Gantt wrote: Tools... Where did you find something like this? To reassure myself of my lucidity I thought of applying a little PCSTYLE DOS program to the text. I really can't remember - the thing is dated 86-01-15. In those days these little gems did not come

Re: The ghost in the mirror

1998-01-12 Thread AR Gouin
At 11:01 98-01-10 -0800, Tom Walker wrote: [snipped Tom Walker's comment on Greenspan's ...(see below for reason)] Retaining here a few of Greenspan's words as quoted by Tom Walker (for emphasis of what is to come below) But deflation can be detrimental for reasons that go beyond those that

Re: Future of work lists.

1998-01-06 Thread AR Gouin
At 08:49 98-01-04 -1000, Jim Dator wrote: I remain interested in such a discussion too. Jim Dator So do I, very much, not so much for myself as for my children and grand-children. As one of the lurkers, to whom Alan Scharf refers, I continue lurking this list in the hope that some results

Re: FW Re: Unemployment (and discouraged workers...)

1997-12-08 Thread AR Gouin
I've read elsewhere also that there is some 5 or 6 percent unemployed in U.S. prisons who (or should I say which) are not counted. Maybe one step forward in the future work subject might be accomplished if we counted the "employeds" and compared them to the total population, country by

Re: FW re Le Monde

1997-11-29 Thread AR Gouin
Ken Walker attributes a whole mouthful to me (Mr. Gouin). This was based on a quote by Thomas Lunde from Le Monde Diplomatique, without giving the author or the title of the article it came from. Therefore, without getting into an argument of how I view apples or oranges I'll leave it to

Re: (sigh)

1997-11-29 Thread AR Gouin
At 14:32 97-11-23 -0500, Brad McCormick, Ed.D. wrote: "The end of labor is to gain leisure." Aristotle. I would argue that a big factor in the present-day economic situation, at least in the United States and other proudly neo-laissez faire countries is that we have forgotten this wisdom of

Re: Futurework

1997-11-29 Thread AR Gouin
At 09:14 97-11-26 +, Keith Hudson wrote: [snip] I don't know how many of the original list are still with Futurework but some may be interested to see what I've been doing in the last few months as a practical endeavour. This is at www.handlo.com and you are warmly invited to visit it and

Le Monde diplomatique - edition en anglais

1997-11-20 Thread AR Gouin
The following might interest a number of subscribers of this list. I have found the French version of Le Monde Diplomatique most interesting, professional and very insightful. The published articles eventually find themselves on the Web site plus they have an exhaustive and well classified

re: who?

1997-11-15 Thread AR Gouin
- Original Text From: AR Gouin [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/12/97 4:38 PM: whois end Please accept my apologies for directing the above query to the list. Considering myself an "oldies" on the net, having been communicating over forty years, I can assure everyone how red-

who

1997-11-12 Thread AR Gouin
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