To the list:
I tried sending a picture but obviously that doesn't work. I guess it's just
"too big", I mean too much memory for the list or servers.Anyone who wants
one just ask and I will try sending it to you. Eva, did you get the picture?
Now as for Eva, Ed, Jay, Arthur, Sally, Mike
... and the good ship Titanic takes her final plunge into the icy blackness.
Our final scene is of a panicing herd -- arms waving and running in
circles -- totally preoccupied with the political correctness of it all.
I don't remember anyone using PC arguments. Another strawman.
I am leaving
Trying to make a difference? So what? People have been trying to make a
difference ever since people existed. And today, our water laps the
portholes of our Titanic.
When one's ship is on its way down, the only thing that matters is results.
Rather than wasting time on a make-believe
Classless society happened before surplus was
produced, and yes it was probably very cruel.
The point is that it must have been successful,
nevertheless,
in establishing more and more stable
and numerous human populations.
It is an example for a classless society.
We made our spiral of
Eva:
Classless society happened to humans for 100K + years,
our relatively short written history chronicled only the
class society that also happened to us - with it's
exploitation, privilege, cruelty, etc.
Ed Weick:
You can believe that if you like, but I doubt very much that the first 100K
Eva Durant supposes that my essay misses the importance of profits. She then
enumerates several points having to do with the non-correspondence between
productivity and profitability. If I may so characterize Eva's point, it
refers to Marx's analysis of the internal contradictions of capitalism
Thanks, Ed, for taking the time to read my paper. I'll adress your points in
reverse order because it seems to me that you presented them in escalating
order of importance.
First, regarding my "implicit assumption" of the homogeneity of labour. What
I assume is a reconfigurable division of
I don't think that the level of
aggressivity is an ethnic trait
or even genetic.
Any such statement on "human nature"
is very suspect.
Have you ever noticed the bully the runt in a litter of puppies? Have you
noticed some species of dogs as more predictably aggressive than other
Temporary relief. But I'm starting to see a pattern here. When you got a
lot of criticism on a few other lists which you owned yourself, you just
closed them down. It seems like you are mainly making your propaganda, get
in a row with some democrats, then leave and move on to some other places
Eva, I didn't mean to suggest genetically based aggressiveness, nor did the
Russian professor I referred to. Why it occurred is something of a mystery
(to me at least - though perhaps someone on the list may know). It would
seem that Genghis Khan began things when he was chosen supreme leader of
Eva Durant wrote:
The bully tend to be the biggest puppy, the one with
the most expendable energy. Even in dogs,
aggressivity is "taught" by the human
who replaced the role of the alpha.
Above is another example of internal inconsistency. The bully pup is
aggressive independently of human
000.000 GOSSIP OR ACTION?
I read some of your post. If you are not interested
in taking possible legal actions to empower the people
read no further.
Thanks
If you know of anyone who would like to get involved
in actually doing something (other than just write
to politicians
Just a comment on animal behaviour. I am not an ethologist, but we have a
herd of 18 horses. I don't see animal behaviour as being such a simple
matter of dominance and hierarchy as people are supposing.
The most aggressive animal in our herd is the shortest, a 13.2 hh pony
gelding (with a very
Eva Durant wrote,
Tom, you say I asked the political questions, when
in fact I asked economical ones - how can be
profits maintained if your suggestions are
accepted. You provide evidence for
the maintanace of productivity, but
not profits the essential motor
of the present economic mechanism.
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