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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:15:19 +1200
From: Ian Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Mai-not' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: Interesting speech by Rt Hon Peter LilleyTPDTP

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> From:         Richard Pearce[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:         Sunday, 30 May 1999 8:01
> To:   Ian Ritchie
> Subject:      Interesting speech by Rt Hon Peter LilleyTPDTP
> 
> Dear Ian
> 
> I have been in the UK for just over a month.  I have produced a newspaper
> "The IndustrialPioneer" - 4 sides of A3 - on DTP for the first time - for
> the past 39 years it has been done with pasting up.  On article I wrote
> for
> it is the following - Peter Lilley was one of the leading marketeers in
> John Majors Tory Govt here - he was Secretary of State for Social
> Security.
>  It seemed to me that it might be relevant to the NZ situation.
> 
> Regards    Richard
> 
> 
> Redefining the Role of the Market
> 
> by Richard
> Pearce
> 
> In his recent speech The Rt Hon Peter Lilley redefined the limits of the
> free market ideology in its application to health, education and welfare -
> as seen by a Conservative.  The fury of some of his colleagues shows that
> this is not a mere re-arraignment of words.  We reprint some of his
> comments as they may encourage a more critical look at the role of the
> market - and also because what has been reported is only a fraction of the
> more interesting parts of his speech.  
> 
> No doubt the speech was prompted by the need for political survival - but
> preoccupation with that point can deflect the attention from something of 
> more importance.  The fact is that the truths Mr  Lilley has expressed
> demolish the simplistic contention of the New Right that the market rules
> in every situation.  That is why some of his colleagues were so furious. 
> They are now faced with the need to use some common sense as well as the
> market.
> 
> In his speech Peter Lilley says:- "Conservatives today must renew public
> confidence in our commitment to the Welfare State - but we will only do so
> if we openly and emphatically accept that the free market has only a
> limited role in improving public services like health, education and
> welfare".
> 
> "[Public] unease about our attitude to the public services has, I believe,
> been reinforced by the way many Conservatives talk and don't talk about
> the
> welfare state.  Too often Conservatives' intellectual body language has
> conveyed a palpable feeling of guilt about support for the public
> services.
> 
> "I believe it is because many Conservatives came to assume that the
> primary
> or even only role of Conservatism is the application and extension of the
> free market paradigm.  Free markets are seen as not just part of
> Conservatism but the whole of it.
> "This blighted our approach to policy in this area in three ways.
> 
> "First, where the free market paradigm cannot be applied Conservatives are
> assumed to have nothing to say about it.
> 
> "A second consequence of assuming Conservatism was exclusively about
> market
> solutions was the dressing up of often perfectly sensible reforms in the
> language of business or economics.  Patients and pupils were re-labelled
> as
> customers and clients.  Hospitals and schools become 'plant' and 'assets'
> and so on.  The effect of using business language was to reinforce
> people's
> concern that we were planning to convert public services into profit
> making
> businesses."
> 
>  "Third and most damaging some Conservatives assume that though no one has
> yet even suggested a beneficial way of bringing the free market into the
> provision of public services [they assume that this] was due to lack of
> free market enthusiasm or sheer electoral cowardice.
> 
> "Unless and until we are prepared to accept that there is more to life and
> more to Conservatism than defending and extending the free market we will
> always be on the intellectual back foot where the public services are
> concerned.
> 
> "I yield to no one in championing the virtues of free markets on
> philosophical, moral and practical grounds.  But that is not a reason for
> talking as, dare I say it, some of the late converts do, as if the free
> market was not simply part of the Conservative philosophy but the whole of
> it.
> 
> "When I was in the Treasury I often found myself battling with the
> rigorous
> minds of Treasury mandarins.  They would argue that my plan was
> impracticable.  I would show that it worked perfectly in practice
> elsewhere.  They would reply, 'Yes, Minister. It may work in practice. But
> it won't work in theory'.
> 
> "So it may be helpful to spell out why there are distinct limits to market
> processes in these areas. The underlying reason is that we have
> obligations
> to others. And, of its very nature, fulfilling an obligation involves a
> transfer from those who have to those who have not; whereas the market is
> about mutually beneficial exchanges between self reliant individuals."
> 
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