Thanks, Ray. I guess I generally agree with the
point you're making. However, my point remains that there are many
communities in Canada's middle north that seem to have fallen into a kind of
permanent trauma and that resist almost anything that can be done from within or
without to get
"It's a rare person who wants to hear what he doesn't want to hear."
(Dick Cavett)
And I
think political leaders, across the board, do not want to hear what they don't
want to hear. They broadcast a message. They don't seem to have the
capacity to receive. They must be born this way or it
How so? What do you mean?
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I don't agree with
Man's greed is unlimited and everyman seeks to accomplish that greed with
as little work as possible.
Is that a part of what you are still saying Harry? I suspect the women on
the list would agree with the man part.It is in the words that you use
to examine the problem that you create the
I don't see them as teams. I see them as competing Mafia families.
arthur
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Because, I think, we are frustrated. For many of us the facts are
in and the next policy steps are clear. Res ipsa
loquitor.
But
which levers do we push to begin the move toward BI? To begin the
discussion of what future for work?
Far
easier to comment and throw darts at one or another
Because there are villains in every culture and often they are the one's who
survive.The only moral way out of that dilemma is to admit and struggle
for one's ideals. Otherwise righteous ideas are polluted by
self-righteousness and decline begins.
REH
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arthur
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Golda Meir once said something like it's not that I hate the Arabs, I hate
the way they cause me to act toward them.
arthur
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Good and evil are just words. But if I steal your home or shot a friend
what would you call that?If I create a situation in which you are able
to prosper, what would you call that? And if I do it without taking away
from anyone else or the environment in the process what would you call
Complexity is in the mind of someone who does not know how to achieve a
desired end humanely.Golda was a grandmother talking at that time and
not a virtuoso politician in other words those are the words of
incompetence.
REH
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I do believe in community. In social order and social cohesion. And in law
and order too.
So crimes should be punished. No need to bring in morality.
On Bill Moyers' NOW the other night there was a discussion of Evil. When
asked to define evil the author suggested that the opposite of good is
I agree that she was incompetent. I empathize with her frustration.
arthur
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I don't get the point. The man who organized Move On was not a
politician. All you have to have is the willingness to sacrifice, get up
off your butt and get to work changing the system. The parties are
incredibly fragile. If I were a politician I would do like that Democrat
from Texas who
Ed,
At 19:01 04/01/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Sorry
Keith, I don't think we're talking about the same kind of thing. You are
talking about communities in transition, that need to make adjustments to
change and make them in a variety of ways, some healthy, others not.
I suppose I was. In England
I think her quote was that she didn't hate the Palestinians for killing
Israeli children, but she hated them for making her kill Palestinian
children.
While honest, this only perpetuates the cycle of violence, not ends it.
KWC
I agree that she was incompetent. I empathize with her frustration.
Speaking of this topic, a new book, Low-Wage America: how employers
are reshaping opportunity in the workplace, eds. E. Appelbaum, A.
Bernhardt and R. Murnane (New York: Russell Sage, 2003) sheds some
interesting light:
In 2001 about 27.5 million Americans, 23.9 percent of the labor,
earned
Harry Pollard wrote:
Karen,
This follows your George Will post.
The modern problems of Northern Ireland are rooted in socialism and
democracy.
Ulster is about two thirds Protestants. This means they have a majority
in most elections.
It also means that many of the public goodies
Harry Pollard wrote:
Brad,
Anyone can make bad analogies.
It isn't your fault you are good at it.
I agree with you that both being the victim of
a theft and being suffoated are bad. I'd rather
live in a world that did not lend itself to such analogies --
incluing your notion of giving the
Golda Meir once said something like it's not that I hate the Arabs, I hate
the way they cause me to act toward them.
Yeah right, blame the victims -- of course the zionists steal their land
and destroy their crops just because those nasty Arabs misbehaved, ts ts ts.
You know, it's not that
Morality is the efficiency that stops massive self interest and psychopathic
chaos. It is an issue of symmetry. There must be a balance in
everything. The problem is in knowing the elements to be balanced. The
beginning of that balance is aesthetics. People who are poor perceptually
Do you believe in positive and negative?
FWP
http://www.geocities.com/machine_psychology/The_Ghost_In_The_Machine
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arthur
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Golda Meir once said something like it's not that I hate the Arabs, I hate
the way they cause me to act toward them.
People have argued against this assertion.
I would propose that, like a lot of other things, sometimes it's
one thing and somethings it's something
Hi Ed, Keith, Ray,
Visiting the Northern Saskatchewan account kept taking me back to one point
you had mentioned about government support being just enough to get by. Not to
reopen the basic income arguments, but I think it does become apparent that
especially in these remote communities,a
You ask mean but not cynical questions.
REH
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Harry Pollard wrote:
Chris,
You are too young to remember, but in the thirties lots of people
were pro Nazi, because Germany seemed to be doing so well in a
world racked by depression.
[snip]
I am too young to remember, but in the thirties
lots of people were pro Soviet Union, because the USSR
Tom,
You said:
Though I applaud your stated goal, it sounds like the old
survival of the
fittest argument to me with slightly different rules. In other
words, if a
person produces nothing of value according the current market,
or if for a year or two he is unemployed due to circumstances
beyond
Ed,
The same happened
in England.
I particularly
noted the Factory Act that raised the minimum work age for children from 10 to
11.
However, in Wales this
year, I found that children of 5 were working in the mines. You may remember my
post of the 5 year olds who pulled open the
Chris wrote
Harry Pollard wrote:
You said:
It would be a big interference to abolish any and all
regulations . .
You mean that in our 75,000 pages of the Federal Register you
cannot imagine abolishing one regulation?
CHRIS: Another strawman. FT is not just about abolishing _one_
Arthur,
You said:
Doesn't
the trade union movement off-set Ricardo's Iron Law?
On the contrary, Arthur, it is evidence
that Ricardo was right.
In both my adult and high school
courses, students get a question like this:
If people lose their jobs, they get
unemployment pay.
Ed,
Sorry Ive
been so long getting to you.
Some points.
You said in
discussing Ricardo
For example, you wouldn't expect an
accountant or lawyer working for a corporation to be moiling about at the
subsistence wage because a very long process of custom building, social
Chris,
You are too young to remember, but in the thirties lots of people
were pro Nazi, because Germany seemed to be doing so well in a
world racked by depression.
Germans overseas were particularly supportive of Hitler. I would
have expect you to have a flourishing 5th Column in Switzerland.
Keith,
Im
catching up on the old posts I marked as being interesting. Its now
after Christmas and close to the New Year!
Ill
comment on your post-Schumpeterian thermodynamical-economics.
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Keith,
Well said!
The problem for
Bush is that the recession probably was no more than a shake-up in the economy
in which the less productive were thrown out.
We are now
producing as much as we did before but with fewer people. Thats why we
have the unemployment problem.
Of
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Tom,
If you accept a
low bid from a firm that isnt performance bonded, you are asking for trouble.
So, dont do
it.
Why are you
echoing the Chamber of Commerce propaganda that supports our paying higher
Ray,
Every Union that supports protection for their firm, so that
they can get a cut, is screwing the rest of the population. Poor people have a
reduced standard of living because of the higher prices caused by protection.
If thats all
right by you, so be it.
Their protected
Ed,
Who decided
that perfect markets were worth studying?
Who later decided
that markets were not perfect?
Labor, in
Classical thinking, was the name given to human exertion that produced
something with exchange value.
This covers the
so-called Entrepreneur.
I suppose he is
Chris,
Now you liken free trade to people choosing their own directions.
That's not something you like, of course. You want to able to
tell them what to do.
The danger was less than minimal. Even now, no connection has
been established between Mad Cow and any human problems.
The shoppers
Arthur,
I would say
that Interest is a time reward.
We invest
exertion and we want the result at once. If we are asked to wait for the result
of our exertion, we might do so for compensation. This is Interest.
Formally:
Interest
is the return for delaying satisfaction.
If
Brad,
You said:
Now, if one wishes to say that profit is reward for
some combination of such things as knowing how
the system works (and how to work the system!),
having connections, having knowledge in various
directions, access to capital that makes
more sense to me.
Exactly!
The
Brian,
Of course, Dewey was mainly famous because he was Chairman of the
Henry George School in New York City.
Have a Good Year!
Harry
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But
surely, Harry, societies/economies/polities have other goals than economic
efficiency.
Nothing wrong with economic efficiency, but what about things like
domestic harmony, equity, public well-being, "peace, order and good government",
even "homeland security"... all are
That cutting is a misquote and you did it
again. As for your idealparadise, I'm out of it.
REH
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Funny, he doesn't sound anything at all like you.
REH
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January 6, 2004OP-ED
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Second Thoughts on Free TradeBy CHARLES SCHUMER and PAUL CRAIG
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was brought up, like most Englishmen, to respect
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person could not doubt but almost as a part
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