RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-29 Thread Harry Pollard
@fes.uwaterloo.ca; 'M.Blackmore'; 'Lawrence deBivort' Subject: Re: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more The notion of a free market is a beautiful thought, Harry, a little like the Garden of Eden before the fall of man. Ed

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-24 Thread Lawrence deBivort
To: 'Lawrence deBivort'; 'Ed Weick'; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more Lawry, I wrote to Ed, then came across your post. Weve got to stop agreeing like this. Its probably bad for us. Harry *** Henry

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-24 Thread Harry Pollard
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:futurework- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cordell, Arthur: ECOM Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 2:53 PM To: Christoph Reuss; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more those in the West think that by reacting

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-24 Thread Harry Pollard
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more Al-Qaeda has plenty of substance; it can best be seen as a support network for militant groups in the Arab and Muslim world. Yes, it still does exist, and is more more powerful than ever, due to the effect the Bush war on terror has

Re: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-24 Thread Ed Weick
: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more Ed, I have maintained for several years that Al Qaeda is more form than substance. I am sure it still exists in fairly battered form, but the majority – perhaps all – the bombings seem to be the actions of small disaffected

Re: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-23 Thread Ed Weick
--- Original Message - From: "Lawrence deBivort" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'M.Blackmore'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more Where people and their governments don'

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-23 Thread Cordell, Arthur: ECOM
Agree. What do we mean by it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of M.Blackmore Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 3:56 PM To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more Lawrence deBivort wrote

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-23 Thread Cordell, Arthur: ECOM
] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more Ed Weick wrote: During the sixties and seventies people thought they could change the system or even bring it down by marching, shouting and throwing rocks. That doesn't work any more. And why doesn't it work any more ? The IDF shoots live bullets at kids who

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-23 Thread Christoph Reuss
We seem to be coming to a fork in the road. Perhaps there is no middle way, at least for now. Is civilization a middle way? Depends on how one defines the two sides or legs of the fork. In the official version, the two sides are Dubya vs. Osama (or in the localized version, Ariel vs. Hamas).

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-23 Thread Harry Pollard
] [mailto:futurework- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christoph Reuss Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 3:15 PM To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more I would add other things that too many peoples and their governments still don't 'get': 2

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-23 Thread Harry Pollard
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cordell, Arthur: ECOM Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 2:36 PM To: Ed Weick; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca; M.Blackmore; Lawrence deBivort Subject: RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more There is a growing resistance to authority

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-23 Thread Harry Pollard
*** From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lawrence deBivort Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:40 AM To: 'Ed Weick'; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more Yes, Ed, I think it is clear: violent

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-23 Thread Harry Pollard
*** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:futurework- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christoph Reuss Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 2:43 PM To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more We seem to be coming

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-23 Thread Lawrence deBivort
: ECOM Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:26 PM To: Christoph Reuss; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more We seem to be coming to a fork in the road. Perhaps there is no middle way, at least for now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-22 Thread Lawrence deBivort
Yes, Ed, I think it is clear: violent resistance to oppressive regimes and policies is spread out over multiple groups and individuals around the world, for whom religion is either irrelevant or a tactical asset. There is no centralization, nor places nor individuals to be destroyed to get

Re: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-22 Thread M.Blackmore
Lawrence deBivort wrote: in every other country whose government and people don’t ‘get it.’ I'm not sure what it is. Perhaps someone could enlighten me? ___ Futurework mailing list Futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca

Re: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-22 Thread Christoph Reuss
Ed Weick wrote: During the sixties and seventies people thought they could change the system or even bring it down by marching, shouting and throwing rocks. That doesn't work any more. And why doesn't it work any more ? The IDF shoots live bullets at kids who are throwing rocks (and sometimes

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-22 Thread Lawrence deBivort
To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more Lawrence deBivort wrote: in every other country whose government and people don't 'get it.' I'm not sure what it is. Perhaps someone could enlighten me

RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

2005-07-22 Thread Christoph Reuss
I would add other things that too many peoples and their governments still don't 'get': 2) That it is now the ability to learn and the discipline to work productively and constructively with others that will determine which societies prosper and which don't, rather than military might and