Greetings to all,
I
suspect that the type of depredations that you cite, Ray, have more to do with
power than 'ethnicity'. It seems, alas, that whenever one society becomes
militarily of financially all-powerful, it engages in the kinds of horrific
activities that you describe. Today, we
I think, too, that we have to learn (and teach) about the dynamics of power,
of how people should behave toward each other even when one has the power to
do otherwise.
I suppose this could be viewed as a subset of 'ethics', but I think it has
something to do with more than what is moral, and
I'm afraid it is even worse than you suggest, Arthur: If all it was was a
concern with quarterly earnings, we would simply have shortsighted business
strategy, and a higher rate of corporate bankruptcies. But the focus is on
stock prices: this is where the incentives of senior executives lie.
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 14:59:44 -0400
From: Robert Rattle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Todays' Ottawa Citizen ran a story on this.
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/english/new.html
Hi Lawry,
Switzerland also has the advantage of its mountains, which makes it easier
to dissaude enemies from attacking it (e.g. Hitler. The Swiss stated that if
they were attacked, they would blow up the Simplon and St. Gothard tunnels,
thus essentially destroying rail transport between
Let's not forget the middle management and lower employees who have been
discouraged and demoralized by the fixation of quarterly profits as the
primary corporate strategy. My business friends have complained
increasingly over the years that no matter how hard they worked to bring in
a new
Hello, Chris
Thanks for the information. I hadn't realized that Napoleon had also gone
after Switzerland. Was Geneva's accession to the Confederation related to
that?
I thought you were drawing a connection between neutrality and lack of
barbaric actions. No? If not this, then, what do you
Greetings, Karen,
I think that some of the brightest employees left the company I described,
as the impact of the switch to share-price oriented activity emerged. But
I'm afraid that for everyone one that left, many were, as planned, motivated
to join the quest for money.
Your question -- and
Lawry de Bivort wrote:
Can anyone think of ANY example of a society that gained preeminent power
and did not abuse it? I so hope that we can find a counter-example.
True enough, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely
-- whether it is old-fashioned empires or transnational
Cordell suggests,
Switzerland's place of neutrality was assured by saying Yes to all.
Everybody needed a safe and secure place to do business and by not taking
sides, Switzerland is living proof that this answer is viable. It only
works if one country does it while the others make war.
Lawry, if you are talking about simple alternative communities, the arts and
crafts community abounds with examples of people who make a living on the
boundaries of commerce and art. Oregon's Ashland and Eugene communities are
moderate examples of this, although it's certainly international. We
Bruce,
As you well know, I am in sympathy with your
position; however, the question here is whether the old arguments against
chauvinism coached in the terms of "efficiency" and the appeal of being the "one
true International' can seriously be answered. As in racism, there
is no ultimate
Chris,
Please get you quote correct, It is Power tends to corrupt. I
have found that very often those who misquote it in the manner you just
did, use it to justify corrupt actions. I say this because we all want
power; such as the power to make our own way and our own decision.
Power is
Chris,
A very interesting point. I agree with Lawry that is has a strong power
contingent. I also agree that the Mountains seem a logical answer since my
culture is a Mountain culture that was transfired to the Great Plains three
generations ago in my family through the re-birth of a death
Ray,
Youre right. Some days the
B.S. sticks. I reread my post and I didnt call them sick
only their words were sickening and they were. Ill
watch my judgmental word; I hope they reciprocate.
Bruce Leier
P.S. Thanks to you Ive discovered Ian
Hancock. I enjoy him.
pete wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jul 2002, Brad McCormick, Ed.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't have any answers, but I do have an idea for one
place some persons can begin: Teach ethics in professional schools.
Teach the leaders of tomorrow that they are stewards and
trustees and guardians for
Bruce Leier added:
we all want
power; such as the power to make our own way and our own decision.
Power is good. Power over others tends to be bad and corrupt power is
bad. I think that tautologically correct. ;)
Thanks for pointing to a crucial distinction: between
power over others
I printed this out and read it at work,
and I came to the [obvious] conclusion that, Ray,
you had not yet read my second posting -- the one
which I addressed to your introject in my head,
before you responded to my first posting in reality.
So I will see what you have to say about the second
Ray, there is an exception to my
rejection of leadership.
http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/AlbertVolk.html
The words in the picture are hard to make out, so I have
repeated them in the caption under the picture.
(There is no last word on any subject)
\brad mccormick
--
Let
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris said,
The answer to all those (valid!) complaints
about barbarism by both savages and invaders is to Just Say No to BOTH.
Switzerland is living proof that this answer is viable.
Cordell suggests,
Switzerland's place of neutrality was assured by saying
Oh well, more clichés from a NYT reader...
Brad McCormick wrote:
I seem to have read that Switzerland did indeed preserve
its #$%neutrality*^%$ by saying Yes to all, including
sheltering Nazi gold and stolen art. This is not exactly
neutrality, but rather middle-man opportunism.
Mistakes
I have no objection to trying to see the whole
picture. Turn on the spotlights, and the
I/R sensors and any other signal
amplifiers we can deploy! (Yesterday I read
how pleased Winston Churchill was with the
sinking of the Lusitania, as a motivator
of the British people.)
You make a point
Forgive me for NOT adding the link to verify this information, but the
American group Jews for Justice, in some of its counterarguments to current
Israeli land aggression, documents that there was a Zionist push to detour
European Jews after the Holocaust to the new Israeli state, even working to
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