Future Education and Society (was Re: Tossing a coin

2002-08-15 Thread Keith Hudson
Harry, Thank you for your interesting biographical posting (which I'll now delete for brevity). As you have possibly inferred from my ramblings about education, I've been thinking recently that the whole matter of education for future jobs is a great deal more problematical than merely casting

RE: Sociology/Victimology 101 (was Re: Women love the burka!)

2002-08-15 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Good morning, Salvador. I hope the new day in Mexico City dawned sunny and bright for you. I'm jumping into this discussion to comment on the subject of choice, as it has evolved over the last few days, about women's dress in Muslim countries. It seems to me that given a choice, many faithful

RE: Sociology/Victimology 101 (was Re: Women love the burka!)

2002-08-15 Thread jan matthieu
I wonder if not having to wear a burka can be considered a human right. In any case, as was repeatedly stated here and elsewhere, burka's were the normal attire of countryside women in large parts of Afghanistan, especially Pashtunistan. Women wore it before the Soviet invasion, during and after,

FW: Free Trade of the Americas

2002-08-15 Thread Karen Watters Cole
MALLABY: A Go-Go Approach to Globalization @ http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44034-2002Aug4.html People talk about the Bush administration's divided foreign policy, with unilateralists at the Pentagon battling diplomats at State. But the Bush team also is split on

RE: pipeline nonsense

2002-08-15 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Title: Bericht Gentlemen: Unocals 1998 testimony reveals that an Afghanistan pipeline could be functional by 2010, a few years sooner than the US theoretically could have seen production from ANWR. Anyone care to comment on that? - Karen Excerpt: The Caspian region contains

Re: Sociology/Victimology 101 (was Re: Women love the burka!)

2002-08-15 Thread Salvador R. Snchez Gutirrez
- Original Message - From: jan matthieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 9:48 AM I wonder if not having to wear a burka can be considered a human right. I would say that NOT HAVING TO wear it SHOULD BE considered a human right. In any case, as was repeatedly stated

RE: Sociology/Victimology 101 (was Re: Women love the burka!)

2002-08-15 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Chris, Lawry de Bivort wrote: You reveak your ignorance, Chris: not permitted to talk to a burka'ed woman? This shows how little you know... Are you saying that sources like the following are wrong ? http://www.purpleberets.org/international_gender_apartheid.html Afghan women ...

RE: Sociology/Victimology 101 (was Re: Women love the burka!)

2002-08-15 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Arthur, I'll follow-up with you off-line. In case I missed any response to my offer in the flurry of emails these last couple of days, please email me directly regarding how to get in touch with real people (Muslim women and Hassidic Jews mentioned specically), if we are not already in such

RE: Sociology/Victimology 101 (was Re: SOME Women love the burka!)

2002-08-15 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Well said, Jan. Can you say a bit more about the dowry matter in Afghanistan? Did it become a major issue for the Taliban, the way modesty and the burka did? It is probably too early to tell, but do you have any sense of whether the removal of the Taliban affected dowry practices. I suspect,

Re: Three strikes and you're out ( was Re: Waco economics)

2002-08-15 Thread Harry Pollard
Keith wrote: You haven't (yet) agreed with my collectible market thoughts on Land. However, you'll remember I mentioned the stock market has many of the same characteristics of the collectible market. (However, stock market prices are not nearly as important as land prices.) The worth of a

Re: FW: Free Trade of the Americas

2002-08-15 Thread Harry Pollard
Karen, I hope your subject was satirical! Harry --- Karen wrote: MALLABY: A Go-Go Approach to Globalization @

RE: Free Trade of the Americas

2002-08-15 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
If this is the same Bob Zoellick that I am thinking of (and it sounds like it is), he is VERY good. Smart, energetic, open to new ideas. I'll double check when I get back to my office. Cheers, Lawry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On

Re: Lawrence de Bivort

2002-08-15 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Lawrence de Bivort wrote: Now we're getting somewhere! smile And while I was not forced to wear a Burqa, I was threatened with parental disownment if I did not get a haircut. We *may* be getting somewhere. I hope so. I, however, do not find anything here to smile about. Never again.

Re: pipeline nonsense

2002-08-15 Thread Christoph Reuss
Jan Matthieu wrote: What I called nonsense is what comes just before the word 'pipeline' in my text: everyone had just been waiting to attack afghanistan because they wanted to build that... The sources I provided actually point to this too. The US wanted to build that pipeline thru

Re: Mad Deer

2002-08-15 Thread Christoph Reuss
Harry, your posting is so full of strawman arguments that I don't know where to start. Just two basic hints: You confuse opposition to free trade with opposition to trade. And you confuse improper protectionism with useful regulations. I'd appreciate if you could actually address the points

Re: Assumptions, blinders and the future of work (was: Women love the burka!)

2002-08-15 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Lawrence de Bivort wrote: Thanks for the Lightfoot-Klein reference, Brad. Is this a book? This is the classic text on Female Genital Mutilation. here's the Amazon.com link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/091839368X/qid=1029457388/sr=2-1/002-9093632-3231251 And, anent cultural

Re: Wall St. Journal attacks leisure

2002-08-15 Thread William B Ward
If Europeans worked a longer week, unemployment would be higher still. WSJ is bound to attack the Europeans life style since it doesn't fit very well with serfdom. Bill Ward On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 05:59:13 -0700 Tom Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WSJ, Aug. 8, 2002 Europe's Prized Leisure Life

Re: Sociology/Victimology 101 (was Re: Women love the burka!)

2002-08-15 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Salvador R. Sánchez Gutiérrez wrote: [snip] As Karen said, it's a question between fundamentalism (archaism?) and modernism. Clothing is not a trivial issue, it is an individual manifestation of identity and belonging but also a display of social traits, practices and customs. Freedom to

RE: Women love the burka! (The annals of cross-dressing, etc.)

2002-08-15 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Greetings, Brad, Yes, after seeing even only one white crow, a person can no longer believe that all crows are black. My apologies for being snippy. I only wish westerners knew much more the world and its diversity. Best regards, Lawry -Original Message- From: Brad McCormick, Ed.D.

Re: pipeline nonsense

2002-08-15 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Christoph Reuss wrote: [snip] For example, what about the story about the Israeli camera team on 9/11 that cheered at the sight (and site) of the WTC crashes? (this was mentioned even in Haaretz) Why did Sharon immediately react with very good! when asked about the effects of 9/11 ? [snip]