[Futurework] The District of Colour Bar

2003-01-21 Thread Tanya Campbell
A great piece in the Guardian this morning on Washington DC's racism and contradictions/hipocracy surrounding it as the center of democracy. It also touches on something that is often missed when talking about the US and that is the state capitals, centres of where democracy is to be practiced

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2003-01-21 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Yup. In the mid-60's I lived in DC in the then newly renovated area of SW. This so I could walk to work on Mall. We lived across the street from the last of a newly constructed public housing project. The colour line ran right down the street. White on one side and black on the other. We met

RE: [Futurework] By choice and necessity

2003-01-21 Thread Karen Watters Cole
I guess my evolving perspective on the health of a democratic Israel is less optimistic than a year ago. It seems two of the four main characters, the Israeli citizens and the Palestinian refugees, have become victims of their own success. They each have powerful allies now, their cause

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2003-01-21 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Yes, Tanya this was a good read, part humor part dirty facts. If it weren't for the fact that the seat of government takes up so much of it's real estate, Washington DC would be just another urban renewal project in some ways. But hey, they've got great real estate and the Smithsonian, too.

[Futurework] More Lucky Duckies IV

2003-01-21 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
January 21, 2003Doubling Up of Taxation Isn't Limited to DividendsBy DANIEL ALTMANDouble taxation," President Bush said in introducing his proposal to end the personal tax on dividends, "is bad for our economy. Double taxation is wrong." Corporate dividends, however, are not the only kind

[Futurework] The Great Game

2003-01-21 Thread Ed Weick
A few postings ago I suggested that what Iraq was really about was global control, regional hegemony, and the supply of oil, probably in that order. Interestingly, on a CBC news item last night a Kuwaiti also said it was about hegemony and oil. However, most Kuwaitis interviewed, including a

RE: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar

2003-01-21 Thread Lawrence DeBivort
Greetings, everyone, This is one of those articles written by someone who knows just enough to be profoundly wrong -- or worse, to miss the point entirely. To point to some of the more egregious areas: 1. Washington is as segregated as Johannesburg. Fact: any person of any race can be in any

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2003-01-21 Thread Brian McAndrews
Hi Lawry, My dean was at a conference in DC recently (during the sniper scare) and she was told that DC has a very high violent crime rate. Any truth to that? Take care, Brian Greetings, everyone, This is one of those articles written by someone who knows just enough to be profoundly wrong

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2003-01-21 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Lawry, so glad my post provoked you to respond at length. You always write well and say worthwhile things. I hope you send your post to the journalist to clean up the brush strokes of the picture he painted. My point was that as a seat of government, DC is put into exceptional circumstances

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2003-01-21 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Who says that Canada wants to be annexed?? arthur -Original Message- From: Karen Watters Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Tanya Campbell Subject: RE: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar Yes, Tanya this was a good

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2003-01-21 Thread Lawrence DeBivort
Hi, Brian, The article, I assume, is correct on the number of murders, so I guess the rate may have increased last year. The US, generally, has a high murder rate (too many guns out there) and Washington does not have the highest murder rate in the US, I don't think. Crime IS one of the areas

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2003-01-21 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Lawry, I was here also during the sniper attacks. It held the area hypnotized for many days. One of the highlights was the outpouring of sympathy for the victims and their families, the lack of racial speculation over the identity of the perpetrators, and the immense outpouring of support for

[Futurework] apropos??

2003-01-21 Thread Cordell . Arthur
The intelligent man finds almost everything ridiculous, the sensible man hardly anything. (Goethe) ___ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework

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2003-01-21 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
No Arthur, Not White Man, White Van, they were looking for a White Van and the only racial characteristic at the time was Hispanic.The picture they published was hispanic. How is it that a majority that has benefitted immensely from racial policies up until 1954 claiming that Blacks were

RE: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar

2003-01-21 Thread Lawrence DeBivort
Yes, the fact that it was centered in the suburbs was startling and out-of-pattern. But it was happening to whites, blacks and Hispanics. The suburban element was more startling, I think, than the racial diversity. The police focus on white perpetrators came solely from the FBI and its profilers

RE: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar

2003-01-21 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Just trying to be colour blind. -Original Message- From: Lawrence DeBivort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:22 PM To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar Yes, the fact that it was centered in the

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2003-01-21 Thread Ed Weick
Who says that Canada wants to be annexed?? arthur Perhaps we should offer provincehood to the US -- under very strict conditions of course. Ed Ed Weick 577 Melbourne Ave. Ottawa, ON, K2A 1W7 Canada Phone (613) 728 4630 Fax (613) 728 9382 -Original Message- From: Karen Watters

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2003-01-21 Thread Bruce Leier
Please do! Then I could move there permanently. Even at my advanced age Bruce Leier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:futurework- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Weick Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

Re: [Futurework] Sonny Bush

2003-01-21 Thread Harry Pollard
Ray, Unfortunately, I had a clean out of old messages so have lost Hutton. I don't recall being particularly enthralled with it. Perhaps because conservatives are imagined to be a block of people like the blacks, the hispanics, the liberals the Catholics and so on - when each block contains

RE: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar

2003-01-21 Thread Harry Pollard
Lawry, Some 80% of violent crimes are committed by blacks. Also, 51.5% of the homicides. This in 13% of the population. A kid was killed yesterday - a gang killing. He had already lost 4 brothers. So, complaining at so many blacks in prison isn't particularly worthwhile. Also, it's

Re: [Futurework] Ecological costs of war / Grim Reap-ah

2003-01-21 Thread Stephen Straker
Brad McCormick, Ed.D. wrote: ... recent Dilbert cartoon where the Grim Reaper comes for Dilbert, and Dilbert is baffled because G.R. has a smile on his face. Dilbert asks about this, and G.R. explains: I, unlike you, like my job. Can't resist sharing my all-time favourite N-YrKr cartoon (a

Re: [Futurework] Ecological costs of war / Grim Reap-ah

2003-01-21 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Stephen Straker wrote: Brad McCormick, Ed.D. wrote: ... recent Dilbert cartoon where the Grim Reaper comes for Dilbert, and Dilbert is baffled because G.R. has a smile on his face. Dilbert asks about this, and G.R. explains: I, unlike you, like my job. Can't resist sharing my all-time

Re: [Futurework] Sonny Bush and persons' self-stereotypification

2003-01-21 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Harry Pollard wrote: [snip] Perhaps because conservatives are imagined to be a block of people like the blacks, the hispanics, the liberals the Catholics and so on - when each block contains individuals with all kinds of variations. [snip] What a shame that most of these individuals don't

Re: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar

2003-01-21 Thread Harry Pollard
Ed, I'm not sure American males could take playing in the end zones, and three downs. Of course the psychiatrists would benefit from such an attack on reality. Harry - Ed wrote: Who says that Canada wants to be annexed?? arthur Perhaps we

Re: [Futurework] Sonny Bush and persons' self-stereotypification

2003-01-21 Thread Harry Pollard
Brad, Neither of us is #6. Harry Brad wrote: Harry Pollard wrote: [snip] Perhaps because conservatives are imagined to be a block of people like the blacks, the hispanics, the liberals the Catholics and so on -

Re: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar

2003-01-21 Thread Ed Weick
Ed, I'm not sure American males could take playing in the end zones, and three downs. Of course the psychiatrists would benefit from such an attack on reality. Harry We could compromise and play three and a half downs and send all of the psychiatrists to Winnipeg. Ed Ed Weick 577

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2003-01-21 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Harry, You have to speak in the language of the people you are teaching.I taught in a Roman Catholic High School in college. The Nuns marched the kids in with yardsticks ready to whack them if they were out of step. These genuinely nice women turned tyrants in front of a classroom. Out of

Re: [Futurework] Sonny Bush

2003-01-21 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Check this out Harry: The New Criterion, founded in 1982 by the art critic Hilton Kramer and the pianist and music critic Samuel Lipman, is a monthly review of the arts and intellectual life. Written with great verve, clarity, and wit, The New Criterion has emerged as America's

Re: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar

2003-01-21 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Why would you guys wish the same people that screwed up the American Ideal on the Canadians? REH - Original Message - From: Lawrence DeBivort [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: RE: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar Given the

RE: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar

2003-01-21 Thread Lawrence DeBivort
Good point. The Canadians would want some sort of triage -Original Message- From: Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar Why would you

Fw: [Futurework] The District of Colour Bar (correction)

2003-01-21 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Harry, You have to speak in the language of the people you are teaching.I taught in a Roman Catholic High School in college. The Nuns marched the kids in with yardsticks ready to whack them if they were out of step. These genuinely nice women turned tyrants in front of a classroom. Out of