Keith,
You deny the experience of one of the greatest
entrepreneurs of his day Charles Ives. Ives was a superlative
businessman who earned millions and set the stage for the modern business of
Insurance in the US. At the same time he was the most advanced
composer of his day as well.He
At 10:20 01/06/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Keith,
You deny the experience of one of the greatest entrepreneurs of his day
Charles Ives. Ives was a superlative businessman who earned millions and
set the stage for the modern business of Insurance in the US. At the same
time he was the most advanced
You need to start over and stop dealing with me
from the stereotypes in your head. I'm certainly capable of
comparing my peasant credentials with anyone and I had a hip-hop star on the
charts in the UK last year. I enjoy vulgarity as much as the next
person. You are talking to me as if I
Hello, Ray and Keith:
I am enjoying your exchanges on musical aesthetics
and musicology.
In terms of the elitism of Charles Ives, I have to
be sympathetic to the perspective of Keith. Ives was a solid member of the
American business class [corporate elite] and a graduate of Yale, at a time
Karen, et al,
This is a pretty good restrained summary of the WMD situation from the
ECONOMIST.
I say Iraq was a basket case - the Economist wonders at the mystery of the
shambolic fight from Baghdad.
Interesting is the assertion that the presence of possible MWD came not
from British or
whatever...
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From: Keith Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2003 6:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Futurework] Toddlers can't talk
From today's Sunday Telegraph:
IGNORED AND GRUNTED AT -- TV TODDLERS HAVE TO BE TAUGHT TO TALK
An alarming
like, I mean, like whatever.
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From: Keith Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2003 6:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Futurework] Toddlers can't talk
From today's Sunday Telegraph:
IGNORED AND GRUNTED AT -- TV TODDLERS HAVE TO BE TAUGHT TO
Keith,
I have been spreading rumors about teens today knowing 10,000 words less
than in a previous generation. Here is an interesting rebuttal:
http://www.dispatch.com/news/news01/june01/738073.html
Bill
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:53:13 +0100 Keith Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
From
Earlier today at a morning press conference, Tony Blair said again that
Saddam had WMDs and that's why the UK had gone to war. He had the evidence,
and the people of Britain must believe him and be patient because the
evidence will be published in due course.
This evening, while Blair
Hi Robert,
Gosh! How pleasant to hear another voice in this exchange. But I'm
afraid your enjoyment must now be curtailed because I think Ray and I
have reached the same sort of impasse that we usually do on musical and
artistic matters. Never mind, it will probably crop up again.
As to Copland,
Busy with grant proposals. But it isn't about
like or dislike. It is about universes. Some people can
understand and inhabit one universe more easily than another. That
doesn't mean you can't learn, grow and be fulfilled by coming out beyond
yourself and entering into the complexities of
Keith Hudson wrote:
Earlier today at a morning press conference, Tony Blair said again that
Saddam had WMDs and that's why the UK had gone to war. He had the
evidence, and the people of Britain must believe him and be patient
because the evidence will be published in due course.
This
Hi Ray:
I like the Will Rogers quote. I would likely
alter it, though, to suggest I have never met a life form, I didn't like.
Is not the embrace of all life forms(Gaia)a preferred stance, in our
stewarship of this planet?
My comments on Ives and Copland actually go beyond
simple like, or
Arthur,
People have been exchanging with each other since the beginning of time.
They have also been taking care of the unfortunate since the beginning.
These are quite natural things for humans to do
So, how can there be a free market idealogue?
It's rather like suggesting that someone who
Ray,
If one person sees a wall, that may be subjective reality. When everyone
sees that wall, that's a confirmation of reality and is objective.
One hopes that on the Freeway all the drivers see objective reality.
Harry
--
Ray wrote:
Scale reality is
Ray,
With regard to cell phones, we already live in such a radiated world their
small amount doesn't matter at all.
I don't have one, but there must be hundreds of millions in service all
the time. I've heard no reasonable report of any problem.
We live in radiation and are probably immune
Lawry,
The Syrians closed it when the Iranians wanted Iraqi exports stopped, so I
would think that Iraq is the only source. The tankers from Syria probably
off-loaded in many places. Oil is fungible and you probably have Iraqi oil
in your car now.
The Turkish pipeline was the one with pumping
Lawry,
I doubt heat would destroy the radioactivity, though if the substance
emitting was destroyed, I suppose that would do it. I expect that coal
waste becomes fill on which subdivisions are built.
However, we shouldn't worry - it's low level. And we already bathe in low
level
Ray,
Coal union stats say there are 500,000 black lung casualties. It would be
a stab, a guess, but that may be more than all the uranium miners put together.
The kill ration among waitresses is also 100%, but I expect you mean
premature deaths - but premature death is also true of black lung.
Harry,
I agree that there are not a lot of proofs but I don't consider myself a
babe in the woods. teach a graduate course in health research and
evaluation and a couple on international health and feel that there are
tremendous pressures on expert committees to go with the flow. Here is
No disrespect Harry. But in answer to your question,
So, how can there be a free market idealogue?
I suggest you look in the mirror.
arthur
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From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 5:26 PM
To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I admit that I am a welfare state idealogue. With the collapse of religion,
the family, respect for government, etc., social cohesion is in tatters.
Perhaps cross-subsidization with rights and obligations might be of help.
Maybe not.
arthur
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From: Harry Pollard
I
worry of about irradiated foods
1.
discourages inspection since the radiation will kill the bad
stuff
2. but
(Brad's point) the radiation is likely to kill much of the good stuff too, stuff
that we don't even adequately understand as yet.
arthur
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Harry,
In Hitler's Germany most of the population saw a wall.
Bill
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 13:26:59 -0700 Harry Pollard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ray,
If one person sees a wall, that may be subjective reality. When
everyone sees that wall, that's a confirmation of reality and is
Arthur, you wrote:
discourages inspection since the radiation will kill the bad
stuff
Think about the quality control
issues.
Bill
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:12:45 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I
worry of about irradiated foods
1.
discourages inspection since the radiation
Harry,
You wrote:
they
have forgotten why welfare is needed.
Now the next thing you are going to tell us is that Capitalism loves
unemployment as a hedge against wage inflation [:)}.
Bill
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:07:18 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes: I admit that I am a welfare state
Keith Hudson wrote:
In the whole of my life I have never heard such brutal
language spoken of a sitting Prime Minister in this
country, no matter how detested
Surely, Americans are not less
perspicacious and I can only think that the realisation of
having been deceived cannot be long
Arthur,
Yes, I'd like to support Harry. Free marketeers like Harry and me are too
easily characterised as against welfare. We aren't. We are against public
services that have become huge industries.
Something like half of all the money that's taxed and destined for social
welfare, health
Harry,
You are not being logical on this one. Radiation at *any* level disrupts
the DNA in living cells. Don't you realise that the approved
radiation you instance below is precisely because of this powerfully
damaging effect?
At 12:35 01/06/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Irradiation is approved by a
Arthur,
At 21:07 01/06/2003 -0400, you wrote:
I admit that I am a welfare state
idealogue. With the collapse of religion,
the family, respect for government, etc., social cohesion is in
tatters.
Perhaps cross-subsidization with rights and obligations might be of
help.
Maybe not.
Yes, the
Selma,
There is a lot of cooperation among them. Also a l0t ofcompanies owning
a slice of another, which in turn owns some of another - and so on.
Harry
Harry Pollard
Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles
Box 655 Tujunga
Brad,
You said:
The people who matter? An interesting description for the people who,
as individuals, precisely *do not
matter*, but who, by some magic, in vast aggregates,
are, as you say, what matters.
Vast aggregates do not eat hamburgers - people do.
In the case of McDonald's, the people
Ray,
The little old lady wasn't so little, nor was she so old.
What she showed herself to be is an idiot.
Coffee is hot. It's supposed to be. She took the cup to her car and held it
between her legs while she was driving.
That's worse than speaking in a cell phone while driving.
Harry
So far, Bush has been able to avoid all social occasions at
St Petersburg and Evian, so my theory still stands (that he is incapable
of social conversation outside his close circle of business friends and
handlers). On the one big social occasion when all the world's leaders
(except Bush) met
Harry,
I have no idea what this is in response to.
Selma
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