Re: [Futurework] In the spirit of Harry Pollard

2003-08-14 Thread Christoph Reuss
The world needs both more electricity and less pollution. In the current heat wave in Europe, nuclear power plants can only choose between shutdown (to avoid overheating) and illegally discharging too hot cooling water (hotter than 30°C) into dried-out rivers. So, in a time of high consumption

[Futurework] Between a rock and a hard place

2003-08-14 Thread Keith Hudson
Interesting article in today's Sunday Times -- no doubt syndicated elsewhere over your side of the water. Implicitly, Stelzer presents a dilemma to American voters. If they re-elect Bush, they can expect more of the same gathering deflation and increasing unemployment and if they elect a

Re: [Futurework] Sharon's Wall, Waiting for Godot etc. et al.

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Brad said: I hypothesize there are still a lot of persons in the former USSR, who never sent anybody to the Gulag or did any other evil, who would gladly trade what they've got now for what they had under Khruschev. I also believe there was a different way that the USSR could have transitioned

[Futurework] Deconstructing Dilbert

2003-08-14 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
From the NYT: In fact Dilbert's creator, Scott Adams, has made a lucrative sideline out of helping management to get its message across. In his consulting capacity, Dilbert has enabled Honda of America to develop the key message [that] quality is a core value and helped

RE: [Futurework] Picture juxtaposing tradition, advanced technology, and [benign] law enforcement

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
I was waiting for you to weigh in Chris. What is anti-Israel but not anti-semitic? I guess a clear thinking Swiss citizen. arthur -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Futurework]

[Futurework] That someday is today...

2003-08-14 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/06/national/06VULT.html No, the chickens are not coming home to roost here in the U.S. of A. The *vultures* are coming! Perhaps they know what's coming, or they are delivering it? --A ghostly army is on the move, traversing Sheridan's path* only in the reverse

Re: [Futurework] Strategy of Denial and Deception

2003-08-14 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Karen Watters Cole wrote: Who could overlook that title? I must say this did make me think of all Keiths posts about salt and trade routes and status goods. It also repeats another (in)famous theme: ignoring the lessons of history. I found this interesting. I continue to be amazed by how many

Re: [Futurework] Picture juxtaposing tradition, advanced technology,and [benign] law enforcement

2003-08-14 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Salvador R. Sánchez Gutiérrez wrote: The man in black is thinking how to make money with a device like that and/or how to use it against the palestinians. (Call it a Rohrschach(sp?) picture) I thought the orthodox jew was puzzling about how the traditional religious laws would be extended to

RE: [Futurework] Between a rock and a hard place

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
This reminds me of the story of how monkeys were caught in that mythical South Sea Island. A hole was put in a coconut. The monkey put his hand in the coconut to take out the meat. But having made a fist to take out the meat, the monkey was faced with the choice of releasing his fist thereby

[Futurework] update on election reform

2003-08-14 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Quote: There are vendors everywhere They are besieging everyone. Question: Who benefits? The voters or Diebold? Or the RNC? - KWC Jolted Over Electronic Voting: Report's Security Warning Shakes Some States' Trust By Brigid Schulte, Washington Post Staff Writer, Monday, August 11, 2003;

RE: [Futurework] Sharon's Wall Update

2003-08-14 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Passing along an update from a hawk-eyed FWer: Merci beaucoup. Domo arigato. Ha'aretz - Article Sharon warns of financial sanctions over security fence The U.S. State Department has prepared a proposal, awaiting the approval of President George W. Bush, that calls for cuts in loan

[Futurework] RE: 054. Community as the next Status Good?

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Perhaps community is itself changing. FW is a sort of community and has appeared and persisted over time. Entirely voluntary this group could be sitting around the cracker barrel in a general store in Vermont but sits around cyberspace. arthur -Original Message- From: Keith Hudson

Re: [Futurework] The Wizard of Oz problem

2003-08-14 Thread Ed Weick
Keith Hudson: To prevent prolonged inflations or deflations, all that needs to be done is for governments to say that their currencies should be exchangeable against things of tangible value -- whether this is expressed in terms of ounces of gold, or platinum, or a package of more ordinary

RE: [Futurework] In the spirit of Harry Pollard

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Reducing demand at source should be our first option. Technological fixes always seem easy at the outset but the unanticipated costs soon mount. arthur -Original Message-From: Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:04 AMTo:

RE: [Futurework] That someday is today...

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
I guess they are moving out of the beltway to the burbs. -Original Message- From: Brad McCormick, Ed.D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2003 5:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Futurework] That someday is today...

[Futurework] RE: something for everyone

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
re-sending -Original Message- From: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:34 AM To: FUTUREWORK (E-mail) Subject: something for everyone Name Statistics - How Popular are your first and last names? http://www.namestatistics.com/ The data here

Re: [Futurework] The Paroah Syndrome

2003-08-14 Thread Ed Weick
This kind of thing gets even worse in a large organization. In my days as a policy wonk in the Canadian public servant I spent very little time wondering what I believed and a great deal of time wondering what the Minister, his Deputy and his Assistant Deputy believed, and whether they all

[Futurework] Strategy of Denial and Deception

2003-08-14 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Who could overlook that title? I must say this did make me think of all Keiths posts about salt and trade routes and status goods. It also repeats another (in)famous theme: ignoring the lessons of history. - KWC Salt of the Earth By PAUL KRUGMAN, NYT, Aug 8 2003 @

Re: [Futurework] Sharon's Wall, Waiting for Godot etc. et al.

2003-08-14 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Christoph Reuss wrote: [snip] Karen Watters Cole wrote: Remember it was Reagan who said to Gorby, take down this wall. Now we are assisting in raising another one Ronnie IV (or whoever will reside in the WhiteHouse then) will never shout Tear down this wall, Mr Sharon!, because the Israel

Re: [Futurework] Picture juxtaposing tradition, advanced technology,and [benign] law enforcement

2003-08-14 Thread Salvador R. Sánchez Gutiérrez
The man in black is thinking how to make money with a device like that and/or how to use it against the palestinians. Salvador Sánchez From: Brad McCormick, Ed.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 7:01 AM Subject: [Futurework] Picture juxtaposing tradition, advanced technology,

Re: [Futurework] Things are not always as they seemed.

2003-08-14 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Ray Evans Harrell wrote: Common media joke about Bill Clinton: What is the difference between George Washington, Richard Nixon, and Bill Clinton? Washington couldn't tell a lie, Nixon couldn't tell the truth, and Clinton doesn't know the difference. [snip] And when George W Bush tells a

[Futurework] stereotypes persist

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
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[Futurework] something for everyone

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Name Statistics - How Popular are your first and last names? http://www.namestatistics.com/ The data here may surprise you. With name information drawn from the entire US Census, the bias is toward older names; Dorothy is still in the top ten, but Madison didn't even crack the top 2,000.

Re: [Futurework] The real target of the war in Iraq was Saudi Arabia

2003-08-14 Thread William B Ward
Keith, You were right on. Another reason is that Saudi Arabia has been funding Palestinian resistance for 40 years. Re Robert Baer, I would feel a little embarrassed to hang out in a pub with a guy who admitted that he was out of the loop for 20 years while working for the CIA. Doesn't

RE: [Futurework] Picture juxtaposing tradition, advanced technology, and [benign] law enforcement

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Wonderful. A Family of Man photo. arthur -Original Message- From: Brad McCormick, Ed.D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:02 AM To: futurework Subject: [Futurework] Picture juxtaposing tradition, advanced technology, and [benign] law enforcement From today's

RE: [Futurework] Picture juxtaposing tradition, advanced technology, and [benign] law enforcement

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
The man in black may be thinking that this is just one more technology leading humanity down a slippery slope. Thanx for your stereotyping Sr. Salvador. arthur -Original Message- From: Salvador R. Sánchez Gutiérrez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:57 PM To:

Re: [Futurework] Study: Fools at Work are a Health Hazard

2003-08-14 Thread William B Ward
A friend of mine used to differentiate between ignorance and stupidity. He called the latter one 'the permanent kind'. Bill On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:51:24 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Reuss) writes: http://www.iworkwithfools.com/index.php?itemid=74catid=2 Working With Idiots Can Kill

Re: [Futurework] Between a rock and a hard place

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Better find a third way. But we don't seem to be able to imagine one here so why should we expect politicians to? REH - Original Message - From: Keith Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:59 AM Subject: [Futurework] Between a rock and a hard

Re: [Futurework] The real target of the war in Iraq was Saudi Arabia

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Yes you did. You also wrote a nice thing about novelty and the human spirit. REH - Original Message - From: Keith Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: [Futurework] The real target of the war in Iraq was Saudi Arabia It

Re: [Futurework] RE: 054. Community as the next Status Good?

2003-08-14 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harlan Cleveland most recently author of No One in Charge calls for less government but more governance. [snip] Is this something like hoping for less oversights by oversight committees? \brad mccormick -- Let your light so shine before men, that they

Re: [Futurework] The Wizard of Oz problem

2003-08-14 Thread Keith Hudson
In response to The Wizard of Oz problem, where I had written: Those who oppose currencies being exchangeable into gold fall into two fallacies. Firstly, they assume that the supply of gold, being fixed, must also necessarily fix its value. Secondly, they don't appreciate that currency started

Re: [Futurework] Bush2 Economic Plan revealed

2003-08-14 Thread William B Ward
Karen, Here is an interesting link re military spending and the economy: http://occawlonline.pearsoned.com/bookbind/pubbooks/miller2001_awl/medialib/download/ect/ect12b.html Bill On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:09:44 -0700 "Karen Watters Cole" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reuters: Defense

[Futurework] community, government and governance

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
PROPHETOFPUBLICADMINISTRATION.doc Attached is more on Harlan Cleveland and some of his interesting and prescient views on governance, government and public administration. PROPHETOFPUBLICADMINISTRATION.doc Description: MS-Word document

Re: [Futurework] 054. Community as the next Status Good?

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
As for central government superiority so was George Washington.Check out his response to the Whiskey Rebellion. There is a balance here Keith. Vermont and New Hampshire are societies where the rich folks from out of state play while alcoholism is high as is incest in the out of city local

RE: [Futurework] The Paroah Syndrome

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
I believe its called The Party Line. -Original Message- From: Ed Weick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:02 PM To: Brad McCormick, Ed.D.; Stephen Straker Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Futurework] The Paroah Syndrome This kind of thing gets even worse

Re: [Futurework] The real target of the war in Iraq

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
I posted a cluster chart on Iraq before the war to the list when I put it together for my family. The implications were in the chart. I don't know why a music publisher from England and a voice teacher in New York could see it but the rest could not. Could it be they weren't looking?Or

RE: [Futurework] Committing suicide

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
My former boss at the Science Council was the head of the Canadian Meteoroligical Service. Many years ago he predicted perturbations in the weather. Records would be broken both up and down, rainfall, snowfall and freezing rain. He said that major changes in systems are preceded by oscillations

RE: [Futurework] RE: 054. Community as the next Status Good?

2003-08-14 Thread Karen Watters Cole
I am glad to see the issue of community brought up again, and agree that it is changing by definition. There are many indications that a renewed sense of community is indeed emerging, both in economic and social terms, that is, both in infrastructure like towns built for greater not less human

Re: [Futurework] Apologies (was Website + Printer for laptop)

2003-08-14 Thread Christoph Reuss
Keith Hudson wrote: Senile decay, I guess. Rather, Freudian slip. Your subconscious wanted Harry to read your complaint. ;-) Chris ___ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework

[Futurework] Bush2 Economic Plan revealed

2003-08-14 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Reuters: Defense Spending Driving US Economy @ http://reuters.com/financeNewsArticle.jhtml?type=businessNewsstoryID=3196574 National Priorities Project @ http://www.nationalpriorities.org/ NYT: Senators Assail Pentagon Aide for lack of postwar details @

RE: [Futurework] Study: Fools at Work are a Health Hazard

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
I think you have to distinguish between conditions and problems. Fools are a condition. Just take a deep breath and let things go. Road rage arises from internalizing and reacting to the driving habits of others. Choose your driving style and stick to it and avoid (or tolerate) foolish

Re: [Futurework] The real target of the war in Iraq was Saudi Arabia

2003-08-14 Thread Christoph Reuss
Since Keith has been reading the Financial Times all the time, is it any wonder that he comes to the same conclusions as the FT ? G No big clairvoyance required... But that doesn't mean KH/FT is right... What about the long-term plans (since long before 9/11) of the Free Trade fundamentalists

Re: [Futurework] Gold Standard

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
There's gold in a lot of places, but as you suggest, its difficult to get at. For example there is Gold in many minerals including Sphalerite the principle zinc mineral. A beautiful golden black stone, you can see the gold but it takes an extreme smelting process to get much out of it.

RE: [Futurework] Sharon's Wall

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Sounds like a "gated community"fashionable these days in many parts of the US. -Original Message-From: Karen Watters Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 9:00 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Futurework] Sharon's Wall THE STRATFOR WEEKLY:

RE: [Futurework] RE: 054. Community as the next Status Good?

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Harlan Cleveland most recently author of No One in Charge calls for less government but more governance. arthur -Original Message- From: Karen Watters Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL

RE: [Futurework] The real target of the war in Iraq

2003-08-14 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Keith, thanks for posting this. The real test of our greatness and maturity as liberalized, democratic nations will be whether we choose to know the truth and deal with the consequences, or be like sheep and led astray. History tells us that we will know the truth, eventually or quickly. Spin

[Futurework] The real target of the war in Iraq was Saudi Arabia

2003-08-14 Thread Keith Hudson
It amazes me just how long it is taking the penny to drop. The following (except for the penultimate paragraph) is much the same as I was writing to FW roughly this time last year when it became apparent that, whatever the UN or anybody else said, the US were going to invade Iraq. KH The

[Futurework] Fw: Magic Circle Press Release for Ned Rorem Gala

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Just to let you all know what we are doing over hereon Turtle Island. Ray Evans Harrell - Original Message - From: Ray Evans Harrell To: Robinson McClellan ; Bigar, Silvie ; Bilfield , Jennifer ; Bradskey, Teresa ; Brooks , Martin ; Castaldi, Peter ; Dunn, Darcy ; Fran Richard

[Futurework] In the spirit of Harry Pollard

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Here's an article from today's NYTimes from MIT that basically says what Harry has been saying about Nuclear power's potential to cure the energy crisis for a time. REH August 14, 2003OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR Nuclear Power Can WorkBy JOHN DEUTCH and ERNEST MONIZ AMBRIDGE,

[Futurework] Things are not always as they seemed.

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Common media joke about Bill Clinton: What is the difference between George Washington, Richard Nixon, and Bill Clinton? Washington couldn't tell a lie, Nixon couldn't tell the truth, and Clinton doesn't know the difference. The Presidential Infidelity Quiz 1. Which president smoked

Re: [Futurework] RE: 054. Community as the next Status Good?

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Straker
KH wrote: it is a status good to have an urban area to call downtown, even if your city is only 25 or 30 years old and, for all practical intents and purposes, a suburb. In America, why go patronize someone else's run-down far-away urban core when you can build one in your own back yard?

Re: [Futurework] RE: 054. Community as the next Status Good?

2003-08-14 Thread wbward
What is very interesting about the focus on community is that the demise of the federal and state control over the economy as a result of Globalization is the resurgence of the Greek City State model in the US. The lack of tax collection by the states from Internet sales means that products move

Re: [Futurework] American education: a model for the world?

2003-08-14 Thread Christoph Reuss
Brad McCormick wrote: Quoting Christoph Reuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ...obviously quoting Luciana Bohne. I thought I'd better quote it from the horse's mouth, so Ray and Lawry can't accuse me of being too far away to make a correct assessment. Just to clarify: You aren't implying that the

[Futurework] 054. Community as the next Status Good?

2003-08-14 Thread Keith Hudson
So far, I have tended to concentrate on status and on hardware Status Goods. Many other aspects of our culture are, of course, permeated by status -- the arts, fashions, politics, etc -- even scientific hierarchies! -- but there is no reason why we shouldn't consider what could be called

RE: [Futurework] Picture juxtaposing tradition, advanced technolo gy, and [benign] law enforcement

2003-08-14 Thread Cordell . Arthur
We are into a mail loop that is likely not to end. Life is not about a or b. Life is about a and b. I agree with some of Sharon's actions, some of Bush's actions, even some of Clinton's actions. arthur -Original Message- From: William B Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday,

[Futurework] Committing suicide

2003-08-14 Thread Keith Hudson
As I sit typing this -- even at 6.00am in the morning -- the sweltering heat is building up even now and my fingers are sweating. Yesterday, England recorded the highest temperature for 130 years -- ever since records began, in fact. We are certainly going through an extremely warm period, and

[Futurework] Why silent now?

2003-08-14 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Below are the first and then the last three paragraphs of a commentary written by the editor of National Review. The whole piece is worth the brief read. The question I have is if the President keeps his distance on this issue and leaves it to the Courts, why did he speak up and take

[Futurework] Picture juxtaposing tradition, advanced technology, and [benign]law enforcement

2003-08-14 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
From today's NYT: http://www.users.cloud9.net/~lcp/segway.jpg It somehow seems evocative to me Enjoy! \brad mccormick -- Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works (Matt 5:16) Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)

Re: [Futurework] Non Working Numbers

2003-08-14 Thread Darryl and Natalia
Karen and all, The popularity of Bush administration news prompts that I urge you to subscribe to Larry Morningstar's website. He seems to pick up a lot of these stories ahead of the New York Times or the Washington Post, for example. He is a columnist for a few of larger publications, but

Re: [Futurework] The Paroah Syndrome

2003-08-14 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe its called The Party Line. -Original Message- From: Ed Weick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:02 PM To: Brad McCormick, Ed.D.; Stephen Straker Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Futurework] The Paroah Syndrome This kind of