[Futurework] Bush: 2 one-liners

2003-11-06 Thread Stephen Straker
Summing up, then, I've had two ideas - a one-liner and a cartoon - which I am sending to Leno Leddermann with a self-addressed return envelope ... (1) People don't believe George Bush is really a baseball man. Of course he is. Why, in fact, he's got an entire LEAGUE named after him. (2)

[Futurework] A major war coming? (was Re: Scanning the Horizon Nov 05 2003

2003-11-06 Thread Keith Hudson
Karen, What a fascinating article you have found for us! (And well-introduced by your goodself if I might say so.) I don't belong to any of the categories you cite in your last introductory paragraph (Vietnam or Gulf War veteran, supporter of preemptive action) but I have a tentative view ---

[Futurework] The coming crash

2003-11-06 Thread Keith Hudson
Credit card debts are now at about 130% of disposable income in England, and it's much the same in America and Australia (not sure about Canada) . This means that if consumers stopped all spending on non-essential items and saved hard it would take well over a year to pay off their debts. At

[Futurework] Fw: STATEMENT FROM BARRY DANA

2003-11-06 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
- Original Message - From: Hample, Frank To: Karen Watters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ; Ray Evans Harrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:47 AM Subject: STATEMENT FROM BARRY DANA STATEMENT FROM BARRY DANA CHIEF OF THE PENOBSCOT NATION Wednesday, Nov. 5, 2003

[Futurework] The Arar Case

2003-11-06 Thread Ed Weick
It is rather odd how people come out of the woodwork when there isnt much reason to stay in anymore. Responding to public outrage over the Maher Arar case, Canadian politicians are now getting mildly bellicose, or at least making some pretense at doing so. Our Prime Minister, who said

Re: [Futurework] The Arar Case

2003-11-06 Thread wbward
Ed, you wrote: Send the bastard to Syria. They'll know how to look after him. What this suggests is that there is closer collaboration between the Bush Administration and Syria than had been thought. Bill On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:06:28 -0500 "Ed Weick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is

Re: [Futurework] The coming crash

2003-11-06 Thread Robert E. Bowd
Keith, The Toronto Star, this morning, reported an increase, again, in the levels of business and personal bankruptcies in Canada. Recently, the CBC website reported the following concerning consumer indebtedness in Canada: Personal debt at record level in Canada: study Last

RE: [Futurework] Wal-Mart...

2003-11-06 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Thanks for sharing the SF Chronicle article about Wal-Marts shenanigans in obtaining signatures for ballots, Robert. - KWC Heres the beginning of another article, too long to drop in here, but also contains other details, including making the point that WalMartization has contributed to

RE: [Futurework] All the President's votes?

2003-11-06 Thread Karen Watters Cole
While chopping veggies for a soup to ward off early winter weather in the Pacific Northwest and the first round of winter colds, I heard a tribute to now-deceased Sen. Mike Mansfield by the author of a new book about him, and was startled that I had failed to mention him recently as a man

Re: [Futurework] The Arar Case

2003-11-06 Thread Ed Weick
After I sent my posting off, I listened to an interview with Robert Baer, a member ofthe CIA who worked in the Middle East as a field officer. What Baer said was that the CIA could not use the kind of methods other countries use to elicit information. Syria, he said, was where they sent

Re: [Futurework] The Arar Case

2003-11-06 Thread Ed Weick
Apologies to Mr. Baer. He is, of course, no longer "a memeber of the CIA". The CIA is probably anxious to ship him off to Egypt. Ed - Original Message - From: Ed Weick To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:51 AM

RE: [Futurework] Wal-Mart...

2003-11-06 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Quote from the Ruth Rosen article: Now, the challenge is to convince Contra Costa County voters that the lowest possible prices come at a steep price for the entire community. arthur suggest, The lowest possible prices may come at a steep price for the national community as well (despite Harry

RE: [Futurework] All the President's votes?

2003-11-06 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Karen We even need irascible opponents, like Thurmond was, to bring color and individuality to politics so that the general public can see somebody like themselves up there representing them and not feel distanced or awed by the process that in truth is operating everyday in their name.

RE: [Futurework] FW: A.Word.A.Day--Potemkin village

2003-11-06 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Brad, This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but a wig on. arthur, It all ends in parody. -Original Message- From: Brad McCormick, Ed.D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 3, 2003 5:52 PM To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

[Futurework] internet use by non-state dissident actors

2003-11-06 Thread Cordell . Arthur
this may be of interest to some. --- The use of the Internet for political action by non-state dissident actors in the Middle East by W. Sean McLaughlin http://firstmonday.org/issues/issue8_11/mclaughlin/ ___ Futurework

[Futurework] RE: A major war coming?

2003-11-06 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Keith, while I dont disagree with your speculations below about prospective warfare plans, its entirely possible that strategists are reacting to the politically risky dependence upon Reserve and Guard units to supplement active duty forces. If a draft is reinstated but only calls up

RE: [Futurework] All the President's votes?

2003-11-06 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Karen We even need irascible opponents, like Thurmond was, to bring color and individuality to politics so that the general public can see somebody like themselves up there representing them and not feel distanced or awed by the process that in truth is operating everyday in their name.

[Futurework] Back to the Future of Work

2003-11-06 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Im adding a section from the transcript excerpted below, discussing Employee Stock Ownership Plans. For those interested, please note the question from San Diego, and the summary remarks. - KWC Leadership for a Changing World website info below. Minneapolis Can you describe the

Re: [Futurework] The coming crash

2003-11-06 Thread Keith Hudson
Robert, Canadians seem far less excessive than the Americans and English in their spending. Nevertheless, credit card debts have ballooned in much the same way as ours in the last ten years, and if America's economy starts collapsing then Canada will be dragged down too. Keith At 09:10

Re: [Futurework] The coming crash

2003-11-06 Thread wbward
I wonder how much of the US growth was military driven. Bill On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:56:31 + Keith Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill,At 08:42 06/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: Keith,I have a small import business and track shipping rates. Shipping ratesrecently have doubled,

RE: [Futurework] The coming crash

2003-11-06 Thread Karen Watters Cole
See NOW segment @ http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/defensedollars.html with sources listed at the bottom of the page. I wonder how much of the US growth was military driven. Bill

RE: [Futurework] The coming crash

2003-11-06 Thread Karen Watters Cole
I wonder how much of the US growth was military driven. Bill Bill, I found it right after sending you that clearinghouse link. Different writer here. Cant wait to see the Q3 numbers. And while thinking about more money, less accountability, check out the National Priorities

RE: [Futurework] Wal-Mart...

2003-11-06 Thread Harry Pollard
Arthur, What steep price to the national community will be incurred by people being able to buy good qualities at lower prices. By golly, you sound like the local Chamber of Commerce, or any of the national corporate monopolies. Harry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Futurework] American schooling... was 'Clarification'...

2003-11-06 Thread Harry Pollard
Bob, I shall await your thoughts on libertarianism. When my kids arrived in La Jolla (San Diego) from Ontario and entered high school, they were a full year ahead of the local kids. I understand the 13th grade has gone in Canada. I wonder how Canadian grade school education stacks up now? Harry

RE: Re: [Futurework] No similarities? (was All the President's votes)

2003-11-06 Thread Harry Pollard
Karen, I like reading Robert Fisk and do often (though the English paper that prints him now demands a subscription fee - so I haven't read much of him lately. He does have a web site though. I cannot recall an item in allhis columns that I've readthat shows Americans in a favorable light.

Re: Re: [Futurework] All the President's votes?

2003-11-06 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Harry, Did you ever see the old film about Russians and Cubans invading America. Called "Amerika, Amerika"? We seem to be playing on a script that we have all feared and projected on the world. Today Bush says they must give up their culture and become good Democratic Capitalists. As if

Re: [Futurework] E.European Women discover the Joys of Free Trade

2003-11-06 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Harry, Its been my experience that Bureaucrats do better than normal in the private sector. You have not explained to me how jobs that are necessary but unable to generate income due to free riding by the consumer can sustain themselves. On the other hand the private sector is good at