Memes (was Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds)

2001-05-30 Thread Keith Hudson
At 19:29 29/05/01 -0400, you wrote: cut to --- True imitation is extremely rare in animals other than humans, except for birdsong and dolphin vocalisation, suggesting that they can have few or no memes. I'm not so sure about this. I once kept fantail doves. I'd built a dovecote

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-29 Thread Keith Hudson
Hi Ed, At 19:15 28/05/01 -0400, you wrote: Cordell... One way to get rid of the underground economy and control counterfeiting is to get rid of cash. With all transactions going through one charge card or the other it will be easy to track and easy to tax. In the US now depositing large

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-29 Thread Bob McDaniel
For more on memes see the following: Meme: Definition But do we have to go to distant worlds to find other kinds of replicator and other, consequent, kinds of evolution? I think that a new kind of replicator has recently emerged on this every planet. It is still in

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-29 Thread Bob McDaniel
Another take on memes: Imitation and the definition of a meme Abstract: The dictionary definition, and Dawkins's (1976) original conception of the meme, both include the idea that memes are copied from one person to another by imitation. We therefore need to be clear what is meant

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-28 Thread Magic Circ Op Rep Ens
Keith you said: As I see it, governments will increasingly have to concentrate on the taxation of property and visible goods -- as they did in the Middle Ages. I don't get that. In an age of virtual knowledge imitating art you are going to only tax property? Do you plan to tax patents

RE: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-28 Thread Cordell . Arthur
-From Brad McC (snip,) Example of the positive social unconscious of permissions: In any competition, there is a winner and there are losers. Everybody consciously tries to win. But the spirit of competition grows stronger no matter who wins or loses. Only when nobody shows up for the

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-28 Thread Magic Circ Op Rep Ens
To paraphrase Woody Allen who said most of life consists of just showing up, maybe the most profound social change will take place when people don't show up. arthur That is the reason for immigration. When the second and third generations would refuse to work for garbage or tolerate a

Total puzzlement (was Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds)

2001-05-28 Thread Keith Hudson
Hi Ray, Once again, I've taken the liberty of modifying Downturn . . . Without wishing to be offensive because you're too nice a chap for all that, but I don't at all understand what you're saying below. Sorry! Keith H At 11:55 28/05/01 -0400, you wrote: To paraphrase Woody Allen who said

RE: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-28 Thread Cordell . Arthur
with that kind of exchangability. arthur -Original Message- From: Mike Hollinshead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 11:48 AM To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds Arthur, Getting rid of cash would not eliminate

Modern music ( was Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds)

2001-05-28 Thread Keith Hudson
Hi Ray, I've taken the liberty of modifying the Subject because so many sub-threads have developed under Downturn . . . At 02:45 28/05/01 -0400, you wrote: Keith you said: As I see it, governments will increasingly have to concentrate on the taxation of property and visible goods -- as they

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-28 Thread Ed Weick
Cordell... One way to get rid of the underground economy and control counterfeiting is to get rid of cash. With all transactions going through one charge card or the other it will be easy to track and easy to tax. In the US now depositing large amounts of cash (I believe over 10, 000

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-28 Thread Ed Weick
From Cordell commenting on a posting by Brad McC This is really at the heart of many issues. What if they had a war and no one showed up. Stopping the virus of competition, or fashion, or one more iteration of this or that product line is only stopped by people somehow finding

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-27 Thread Keith Hudson
Hi Ed, At 17:35 26/05/01 -0400, you wrote: Keith: (KH) But little bit by little bit I am becoming increasingly convinced that we will see the emergence of a single universal currency. Whether this will come about via some new grouping of large companies starting an asset-backed bank

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-27 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Peter Challen wrote: Perhaps this beautiful rhetoric is pertinent to most modern currencies as well as to the measurement of GNP 'Gross National Product measures neither the health of our children, the quality of their education, nor the joy of their play. [snip] It measures everything

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-27 Thread Keith Hudson
Hi Peter, Your Robert Kennedy quote was a refreshing change from the usual stuff on FW. It is beautiful all right, and is certainly rhetorical. But, really, it won't do at all! Please don't think I'm being captious, but pretty well all of the sentiments and institutions mentioned came into

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-27 Thread Ed Goertzen
Hi Ed W: I agree with you regarding the pervasiveness of the US $. The one thing about a dominant currency (dominant money) is that nobody is permitted to audit the collateral value that supposedly substantiates it. Regarding absolute value, we have to keep in mind that money is not a value

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-27 Thread Tom Lowe
However, this accidental birth of a new currency is less likely than a proactive decision to start one. This is much easier to imagine. For example, if, say, Microsoft, General Electric (the finance division thereof), VISA, IBM, Citibank, WalMart and one or two more of the biggies decided to

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-27 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Tom Walker wrote: brad, Have you forgotten, then, the story of the O ring on the space shuttle Challenger? brad mccormick wrote, Remember the Titanic.(I cannot conceive of any vital . . . Remember the Concorde. (Cheaper not to install wheel flaps

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-27 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Keith Hudson wrote: [snip] The lofty sentiments of Robert Kennedy came from someone who was supported by family wealth of dubious origin and who could afford the best research assistants and speech writers. We're hearing much the same spin-doctor stuff from Tony Blair, William Hague and

Re: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-27 Thread Keith Hudson
At 09:26 27/05/01 -0500, you wrote: (KH) However, this accidental birth of a new currency is less likely than a proactive decision to start one. This is much easier to imagine. For example, if, say, Microsoft, General Electric (the finance division thereof), VISA, IBM, Citibank, WalMart and one

RE: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds

2001-05-26 Thread Keith Hudson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ed Weick; Geoff Egan; John Sharkey; Keith Hudson; Magic Circ Op Rep Ens; Robert E. Bowd; Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Downturn, Deflation Haunt Japan, IMF Finds Hi All: This is being sent to several E-friends that have indicated