RE: Sephardics vs Ashkenazis (was RE: Rookies)

2002-07-04 Thread Cordell . Arthur
Keith, What is your source for the IQ differentials? arthur cordell -Original Message- From: Keith Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 1:24 AM To: pete Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sephardics vs Ashkenazis (was RE: Rookies) Hi Pete, I'm sorry if the two

RE: Rookies

2002-07-04 Thread Keith Hudson
Hi Karen, At 11:58 03/07/02 -0700, you wrote: Keith, I've just been listening in and occasionally commenting on FW for about a month now, so it helps me to read summaries of previous conversations. So I apologize in advance if I cover ground that to me is new but worn to the rest of you. I'm

Sephardics vs Ashkenazis (was RE: Rookies)

2002-07-03 Thread Keith Hudson
Hi Pete, I'm sorry if the two paragraphs of mine below gave the impression that I thought the mandarinate system in China and the monastic system in Europe had genetic effects. I gave those as examples of systematic/significant selection of talent in previous times with, probably, significant

Mandarins and Monks ( was Re: Rookies)

2002-07-02 Thread Keith Hudson
Hi Ed, I've repeated some aspect of the nature vs. nurture divide in my previous message (Bagatelle) so I'll cut straight down to the place where you're charging me with a static position. (EW) . . . . I would suggest that you take a rather static view of society and fail to give

Outrage ( was Re: Rookies)

2002-07-02 Thread Keith Hudson
Hi Ray, (REH) Karen, Keith, Good job on this. I would make a couple of points which you may or may not use. 1. Poor teacher performance and attitudes did not originate with the Unions which originated in the 1960s and which no one likes but is the only alternative to a management system that

Re: Mandarins and Monks ( was Re: Rookies)

2002-07-02 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Keith said: Being hierarchical is beside the point, surely. The point is that they were both meritocratic. (Incidentally, both the societies were, if anything, much more partial to democratic notions than the traditional aristocracy. The sheer numbers of mandarins required meant that

Re: Outrage ( was Re: Rookies)

2002-07-02 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
- Original Message - From: "Keith Hudson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Ray Evans Harrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Karen Watters Cole" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: Outrage ( was Re: Rookies) Hi Ray,

Re: Mandarins and Monks ( was Re: Rookies)

2002-07-02 Thread Ed Weick
Hi Ed, I've repeated some aspect of the nature vs. nurture divide in my previous message (Bagatelle) so I'll cut straight down to the place where you're charging me with a static position. Keith, it's not a charge. It's just a comment, perhaps a bad one. (EW) . . . . I would

RE: Mandarins and Monks ( was Re: Rookies)

2002-07-02 Thread Lawrence DeBivort
] Subject: Re: Mandarins and Monks ( was Re: Rookies) Hi Ed, I've repeated some aspect of the nature vs. nurture divide in my previous message (Bagatelle) so I'll cut straight down to the place where you're charging me with a static position. Keith, it's not a charge. It's just a comment

RE: Rookies

2002-07-01 Thread Keith Hudson
Hi Karen, At 08:45 30/06/02 -0700, you wrote: Good morning, Keith. While I am naturally sympathetic to the teaching profession and understand Levine's arguments that teaching is more than knowledge of subject matter, I do see the point you made about accelerating further divisions and

Re: Rookies

2002-07-01 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Karen, Keith, Good job on this. I would make a couple of points which you may or may not use. 1. Poor teacher performance and attitudes did not originate with the Unions which originated in the 1960s and which no one likes but is the only alternative to a management system that is

Re: Rookies

2002-07-01 Thread Ed Weick
Keith Hudson: As education and higher skills become more necessary (and selectable) in a modern high-tech society, and if intelligence and ability is indeed genetic to a significant extent (as most specialists would agree), then several selection effects might be occurring -- among which

RE: Rookies

2002-06-30 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Good morning, Keith. While I am naturally sympathetic to the teaching profession and understand Levine's arguments that teaching is more than knowledge of subject matter, I do see the point you made about accelerating further divisions and conflicting priorities within the education