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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:19 PM
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Cordell,
The cute little straw men you set up. You know I was talking about
national borders. You have anything to say about that?
Please explain what national
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:51 PM
To: Bruce Leier; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Bruce, I'm confused. Are you saying that you don't believe in
private
property and the need to defend it?
REH
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Bruce hates national borders. Well, if 'your' tribe/society believes in subjugation
of women, female genital mutilation, infanticide, slavery in any form, virtually
unlimited rights to pollute, 12 children to be 'godly' (Mormons), or any
of countless cultural values that 'my' society/tribe
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To: 'Ray Evans Harrell'; Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Ray,
Trying to get some dialogue going in small enough bites that this old
mind can handle.
Let's see private property - as in my computer. I believe
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Bruce Leier
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No borders? What about jurisdictions? What about accountability
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Bruce Leier
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Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 8:38 AM
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People who want control over the conditions of their workplace
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Thanks for some thoughtful response at last. Sigh
Yes, people want (or have come to expect) control over the conditions
of their workplace. But we give them little or none. Because
corporations are people they have all the rights and the real people
have
they work or if they work at all.
REH
Ray Evans Harrell
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At this very time, ironically
Bless then every one where is the irony?
Bruce Leier
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Bruce hates national borders. Well, if 'your' tribe/society believes in
subjugation of women, female genital mutilation, infanticide, slavery in
any form, virtually unlimited rights to pollute, 12 children to be 'godly'
(Mormons), or any of countless
of
these
ideals and how they work or if they work at all.
REH
Ray Evans Harrell
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Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:41 PM
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At this very time, ironically, in Ottawa there is a g-8 protest in the
streets calling for open borders. The signs say no one is illegal.
Lots of police, lots of noise, lots of protesters.
arthur
They are calling for open borders and just about everything else. My
daughter and I were
It was said that everyone in the
world is an interested party to the US elections and should have a say in
the outcome.
Before this can be contemplated, perhaps the US should first manage to
have a democratic election among US voters (as opposed to among Bushmen in
the Supreme Court). But
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At this very time, ironically, in Ottawa there is a g-8 protest in the
streets calling for open borders. The signs say no one is illegal.
Lots of police, lots
Hi Arthur et al,
There are many folks who seriously want to live in a community
which shares their values. How can they assure themselves such
a situation?
Firstly, they must find some way to keep out those whose values
are at great odds with the community's, in other words, immigration
Bravo, Dennis. You are acknowledging both the subjectivity of values and
the physical constraints of the planetary habitat available for humans.
Should you ever get to Ottawa, please let us (Arthur, Ed W, Gail Stewart
me (maybe more?) know. The drinks are on me.
Steve
--
What are you suggesting?Maybe people should not be allowed to move?
REH
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Hi Arthur et al,
There are many folks who seriously
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Ray,
Ray,
I couldn't say what my reaction would be if I was in NYC. I too have a
drama playing in my head. It says that without the artificially imposed
boundaries there would have been no reason for the 9
be introduced here.
arthur cordell
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From: Bruce Leier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 6:54 PM
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FWers,
I continue to be amazed at the rationalizations that people develop to
keep
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No borders? What about jurisdictions? What about accountability?
What
about zoning laws
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Bruce Leier
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No borders? What about jurisdictions? What about
Hi Ray,
At 15:51 24/06/02 -0400, you wrote:
Keith said:
The EC countries have agreed to prevent further immigration but cannot yet
agree on quite how they do this. Illegal immigration of approaching 1
million people a year will thus continue. For many years, EC politicians
have taken the
Ray,
Our discussions/points of view are not mutually exclusive. I care not
about 'who' immigrants are; I care about 'how many' are jammed into
areas that can't sustain the current population in a healthy ( 7th
generational) way. Some societies in some areas react negatively to
immigrants for
Keith said:
The EC countries have agreed to prevent further immigration but cannot yet
agree on quite how they do this. Illegal immigration of approaching 1
million people a year will thus continue. For many years, EC politicians
have taken the cowardly decision to raise high tariffs against
The immigration issue relates significantly to constraints and quality
of life which may be affected by the density of human populations,
scarcity of desired needed resources, and pollution (all kinds) of the
areas involved. Noise, traffic, unhealthy sanitation-air-water, as well
as food
To: Ray Evans Harrell
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Keith Hudson
Subject: Re: Tony Blair rebuffed
The immigration issue relates significantly to constraints and quality
of life which may be affected by the density of human populations,
scarcity of desired needed resources, and pollution (all kinds
, June 24, 2002 8:03 PM
Subject: RE: Tony Blair rebuffed
I would have to side more with Steve's interpretative comments regarding
Europe's growing unease with immigration than with cousin Ray's in this
case. We should not underestimate the impact that the open availability of
land had
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