FVWM: Using Two FvwmIconMan

2014-08-18 Thread Jamie Griffin
Hi I'm using 1 FvwmIconMan in my taskbar which is swallowed (it's fvwmbuttons really) but, I want to have another fvwmiconman opened when I change my layout. When I close the fvwmbuttons taskbar that has fvwmiconman 1 swallowed, what is the right way to start another (2nd) fvwmiconman ?

Re: FVWM: fvwm - porting patches from mvwm

2014-08-18 Thread Michael Treibton
On 18 August 2014 05:50, Dan Espen des...@verizon.net wrote: Brian bvamund...@yahoo.com writes: On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:25:43 +0100 Michael Treibton mtreib...@googlemail.com wrote: On 15 August 2014 21:05, Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de wrote: I'll start a new mail thread about parsing

Re: FVWM: fvwm - porting patches from mvwm

2014-08-18 Thread Dan Espen
Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:37:37PM +0100, Michael Treibton wrote: On 18 August 2014 05:50, Dan Espen des...@verizon.net wrote: Brian bvamund...@yahoo.com writes: On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:25:43 +0100 Michael Treibton mtreib...@googlemail.com wrote:

Re: FVWM: fvwm - porting patches from mvwm

2014-08-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:32:11AM -0400, Dan Espen wrote: I haven't examined mvwm all that closely. At the moment, mvwm is mostly fvwm with a lot of old and obscure features removed and some changes of repository layout. I had assumed that the mvwm work would eventually fold back into Fvwm.

Re: FVWM: fvwm - porting patches from mvwm

2014-08-18 Thread Dan Espen
Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:32:11AM -0400, Dan Espen wrote: I haven't examined mvwm all that closely. At the moment, mvwm is mostly fvwm with a lot of old and obscure features removed and some changes of repository layout. I had assumed that the mvwm

Re: FVWM: fvwm - porting patches from mvwm

2014-08-18 Thread Dan Espen
Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:25:51AM -0400, Dan Espen wrote: Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes: I just did something similar for a work project. But I didn't have a lifetime, so I just implemented the table driven parser for the commands I was

Re: FVWM: fvwm - porting patches from mvwm

2014-08-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 01:40:33PM +0100, Michael Treibton wrote: On 18 August 2014 12:44, Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org wrote: Is this perhaps not clear enough? I appreciate the enthusiasm, but this groundwork is really important before we can move forward. Unless there's anyone else who

Re: FVWM: fvwm - porting patches from mvwm

2014-08-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:39:51PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote: Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes: It works perfectly for me too. But I wish it was easier to introduce new features, and I'm still dreaming about some kind of database approach to window configuration where you can just

REWRITE: Porting patches from fvwm to mvwm?

2014-08-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
Thomas, what's that plan to get the patches and fixes in fvwm since you forked the mvwm repo into the latter? From which fvwm commit did you fork? Maybe we could set tags in fvwm and mvwm to identify these commits. Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt

Re: REWRITE: Some removed features

2014-08-18 Thread Thomas Funk
Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de wrote: 2. Support for xpm, xbm and svg images. While I've no idea whether svg images are really usefull (in title buttons perhaps?), xpm images, and to a lesser extent xbm iamges, are still used a lot in old icon themes. So I vote for reviving

Re: REWRITE: Some removed features

2014-08-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:18:13PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: Some features that have been removed in mvwm that I'm not sure about: 1. FvwmCpp and FvwmM4 Heh. In my mind, it came back to maintainability, and from time-to-time we often see problems with people trying to use these modules.

Re: REWRITE: Porting patches from fvwm to mvwm?

2014-08-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:58:13PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: Thomas, Hi, what's that plan to get the patches and fixes in fvwm since you forked the mvwm repo into the latter? From which fvwm commit did you fork? Maybe we could set tags in fvwm and mvwm to identify these commits. It

Re: REWRITE: Comments on change of coding style

2014-08-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:04:19PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 03:30:04PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 03:27:32PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: Would simply reverting the reindentation commit and postponing a new round of reindentation be okay?

Re: REWRITE: Porting patches from fvwm to mvwm?

2014-08-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 05:02:24PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 04:12:19PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:58:13PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: Would it help if you had collaboration rights to my fvwm.git repository as well, Dominik? I don't know,

Re: REWRITE: Some removed features

2014-08-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 04:06:02PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:18:13PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: Some features that have been removed in mvwm that I'm not sure about: 1. FvwmCpp and FvwmM4 Heh. In my mind, it came back to maintainability, and from

Re: REWRITE: Some removed features

2014-08-18 Thread Dan Espen
Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 05:23:57PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: I find it really strange to have a configuration input filter implemented as a module. I don't know what to do with it in the long run, but at the moment I find it indispensable. I understand.

Re: REWRITE: Comments on change of coding style

2014-08-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 05:44:55PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: Done. I've moved the old master to master-bak-1. We can delete that and dv/undo-reindent once we're sure we don't need them anymore. Thank you. I've added some commits ontop of this to address a few missing files, as well as

Re: REWRITE: Some removed features

2014-08-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
The MvwmCpp module is back on the master branch. Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt

REWRITE: mvwm_callow?

2014-08-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
Is that a typo? Shouldn't the name be mvwm_calloc()? Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt

Re: REWRITE: mvwm_callow?

2014-08-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 07:01:23PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: Is that a typo? Shouldn't the name be mvwm_calloc()? Oh, stupid question. I've made the tyo myself. Fixed in a minute. Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt

Re: REWRITE: Comments on change of coding style

2014-08-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 06:16:37PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 06:11:08PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: Oh, great. Can you add the following CFLAGS in the make line? $ make CFLAGS=-g -O2 -Wall -Wpointer-arith -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror Done. The definition for

Re: REWRITE: Docs conversion and introducing a new (humble) contributor

2014-08-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
Hi Roman, On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:43:55PM +0400, Roman Grazhdan wrote: documentation conversion part - docbook to mdoc. Can you give me a max. ten line summary of what mdoc is and give a short example of a file converted to that format, please? Additionally, Thomas proposed me to look into

Re: REWRITE: Docs conversion and introducing a new (humble) contributor

2014-08-18 Thread Thomas Funk
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:43:55PM +0400, Roman Grazhdan wrote: documentation conversion part - docbook to mdoc. Thomas, what about the documentation I had converted to asciidoc a year ago? -- Thomas -- -- -- Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about

Re: REWRITE: Docs conversion and introducing a new (humble) contributor

2014-08-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:08:04PM +0200, Thomas Funk wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:43:55PM +0400, Roman Grazhdan wrote: documentation conversion part - docbook to mdoc. Thomas, what about the documentation I had converted to asciidoc a year ago? Ditched. Having seen asciidoc break

Re: REWRITE: Docs conversion and introducing a new (humble) contributor

2014-08-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 07:58:49PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: Hi Roman, On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:43:55PM +0400, Roman Grazhdan wrote: documentation conversion part - docbook to mdoc. Can you give me a max. ten line summary of what mdoc is and give a short example of a file converted to

Re: REWRITE: Comments on change of coding style

2014-08-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 07:52:08PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 06:16:37PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 06:11:08PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: Oh, great. Can you add the following CFLAGS in the make line? $ make CFLAGS=-g -O2 -Wall

Re: REWRITE: Docs conversion and introducing a new (humble) contributor

2014-08-18 Thread Roman Grazhdan
On 18.08.2014 22:58, Dominik Vogt wrote: Can you give me a max. ten line summary of what mdoc is and give a short example of a file converted to that format, please? mdoc is a format used to write manual pages. Well I'm not sure if 'format' is a right word here, more like set of (g)roff

Re: REWRITE: Docs conversion and introducing a new (humble) contributor

2014-08-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:00:36PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: It's going back to using man pages. It's similar to roff, but not quite. .Dd $Mdocdate$ .Dt PROGNAME section .Os .Sh NAME .Nm progname .Nd one line about what it does .\ .Sh LIBRARY .\

Re: REWRITE: Comments on change of coding style

2014-08-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:04:49PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 07:52:08PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 06:16:37PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 06:11:08PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: Oh, great. Can you add the following

Re: REWRITE: Docs conversion and introducing a new (humble) contributor

2014-08-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:08:24PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: My prayers have been heard! Never got used to the Xml horror format! Nor me, and oddly enough there's HTML output filters as well as ASCII. Does that include a solution for breaking up the man page into severalm html files too?