FVWM: acroread window problem
I'm experiencing the following problem with acrobat reader windows which are started clicking on a pdf URL (http://somewhere/something.pdf) from my firefox browser. I'd like to make a set of web pages for a presentation, and keep some auxiliary material in PDF files I can recall. I'd like to keep the firefox window as large as possible (maybe even full screen although I usually do not use it) What happens is that, when I click on the pdf URL, firefox first correctly displays the Opening something.pdf transient window, then Acrobat Reader starts, but is immediately lowered behind the firefox window, before I can even move to give focus to it. This is highly inconvenient. I'd like to have the acrobat window on top, so that I can give focus (with the mouse), move it so that it overlaps only partially the browser window and toggle front/back (with mouse focus, or eventually menu buttons) This is an extract of my .fvwm2rc of what I think are relevant parts ... some general styles Style * SmartPlacement Style * NoPPosition Style * HilightBack Red Style * SloppyFocus Style * DecorateTransient Style * ManualPlacementIgnoresStartsOnPage, ActivePlacementIgnoresStartsOnPage ... things related to the browsers Style Gecko StartsOnPage 1 0 0, SkipMapping, NoPPosition Style Netscape StartsOnPage 1 0 0, SkipMapping, NoPPosition Style mozilla-bin StartsOnPage 1 0 0, SkipMapping, NoPPosition ... things related to acrobat (part of standard config file distributed with SuSE 9.2, I did not write this). I've no idea what the bug number refers to. # see bug #36189 Style AcroRead SmartPlacement, RandomPlacement I tried adding StaysOnBottom to the browsers, but that is not what I want, since I cannot raise the browser window any more. I tried replacing all in Style AcroRead with StartsRaised but does not look to work (it does the first time, then if window is lowered, acrobat remembers ... could it be ?) I tried adding StaysOnTop to Style AcroRead ... which again is not what I want. I could force acroread into another page, but I'd prefer to have it on front in the same page. Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html
Re: FVWM: acroread window problem
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 12:18:42PM +0100, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: I'm experiencing the following problem with acrobat reader windows which are started clicking on a pdf URL (http://somewhere/something.pdf) from my firefox browser. I'd like to make a set of web pages for a presentation, and keep some auxiliary material in PDF files I can recall. I'd like to keep the firefox window as large as possible (maybe even full screen although I usually do not use it) What happens is that, when I click on the pdf URL, firefox first correctly displays the Opening something.pdf transient window, then Acrobat Reader starts, but is immediately lowered behind the firefox window, before I can even move to give focus to it. This is highly inconvenient. I'd like to have the acrobat window on top, so that I can give focus (with the mouse), move it so that it overlaps only partially the browser window and toggle front/back (with mouse focus, or eventually menu buttons) This is an extract of my .fvwm2rc of what I think are relevant parts ... some general styles Style * SmartPlacement Style * NoPPosition Style * HilightBack Red Style * SloppyFocus Style * DecorateTransient Style * ManualPlacementIgnoresStartsOnPage, ActivePlacementIgnoresStartsOnPage ... things related to the browsers Style Gecko StartsOnPage 1 0 0, SkipMapping, NoPPosition Style Netscape StartsOnPage 1 0 0, SkipMapping, NoPPosition Style mozilla-bin StartsOnPage 1 0 0, SkipMapping, NoPPosition ... things related to acrobat (part of standard config file distributed with SuSE 9.2, I did not write this). I've no idea what the bug number refers to. # see bug #36189 Style AcroRead SmartPlacement, RandomPlacement I tried adding StaysOnBottom to the browsers, but that is not what I want, since I cannot raise the browser window any more. I tried replacing all in Style AcroRead with StartsRaised but does not look to work (it does the first time, then if window is lowered, acrobat remembers ... could it be ?) I tried adding StaysOnTop to Style AcroRead ... which again is not what I want. I could force acroread into another page, but I'd prefer to have it on front in the same page. Does this help: Style * !RaiseTransient, !LowerTransient, !StackTransientParent ? Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: FVWM: acroread window problem
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Dominik Vogt wrote: Does this help: Style * !RaiseTransient, !LowerTransient, !StackTransientParent Unfortunately not. I do not pretend to understand what the above should do, but I do not think that Acrobat Reader as started by firefox is transient (maybe the popup window which asks me whether I want to save to disk or display with is a transient of firefox, but acroread should be a totally separated application, I presume) Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html
Re: FVWM: acroread window problem
What happens is that, when I click on the pdf URL, firefox first correctly displays the Opening something.pdf transient window, then Odd. I downloaded Acroreader to see if I could reproduce this. I can't. Indeed, using Firefox (1.0.7) just starts Acroread externally without any intermediary transient window. Acrobat Reader starts, but is immediately lowered behind the firefox window, before I can even move to give focus to it. This is highly inconvenient. Indeed, although for me it doesn't happen here. Acroread opens up above Firefox. Which version of FVWM are you running? I'd like to have the acrobat window on top, so that I can give focus (with the mouse), move it so that it overlaps only partially the browser window and toggle front/back (with mouse focus, or eventually menu buttons) Does: Style Acroread StartsRaised help any? # see bug #36189 Style AcroRead SmartPlacement, RandomPlacement That style line is now incorrect. With the version of Acroreader I have here (7.0.5), the Class of the window is 'Acroread'. (Case is important). Although even if that line did run, it wouldn't solve your issue of this window being lowered. -- Thomas Adam -- I've been too honest with myself, I should have lied like everybody else.
Re: FVWM: acroread window problem
On 3/8/06, Thomas Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happens is that, when I click on the pdf URL, firefox first correctly displays the Opening something.pdf transient window, then Odd. I downloaded Acroreader to see if I could reproduce this. I can't. Indeed, using Firefox (1.0.7) just starts Acroread externally without any intermediary transient window. Acrobat Reader starts, but is immediately lowered behind the firefox window, before I can even move to give focus to it. This is highly inconvenient. Indeed, although for me it doesn't happen here. Acroread opens up above Firefox. Which version of FVWM are you running? I'd like to have the acrobat window on top, so that I can give focus (with the mouse), move it so that it overlaps only partially the browser window and toggle front/back (with mouse focus, or eventually menu buttons) Does: Style Acroread StartsRaised help any? # see bug #36189 Style AcroRead SmartPlacement, RandomPlacement That style line is now incorrect. With the version of Acroreader I have here (7.0.5), the Class of the window is 'Acroread'. (Case is important). Although even if that line did run, it wouldn't solve your issue of this window being lowered. -- Thomas Adam -- I've been too honest with myself, I should have lied like everybody else. Perhaps a better solution is to set Firefox to use Acroread as a plugin. That way Acroread will open within Firefox. I do this to give Acroread tabs (a feature I think is sorely lacking in Acroread). Now, I use Opera, not Firefox, but I think the way to do it is pretty much the same. Acroread comes with nppdf.so. Mine is in /usr/lib/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so. Opera looks for plugins in several directories, and I just make a symlink to nppdf.so in one of them. I think Firefox works exactly the same way. Firefox's plugin directory is /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ on my system. I'm not exactly sure if this is all that is needed, because my distribution sets up Acroread to work as a Firefox plugin automatically. -- Thanks, Jonathan Kotta Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.
Re: FVWM: acroread window problem
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 02:07:53PM +0100, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Dominik Vogt wrote: Does this help: Style * !RaiseTransient, !LowerTransient, !StackTransientParent Unfortunately not. Hm, since you did not say which fvwm version you have the correct stylenames may be Style * DontRaiseTransient, DontLowerTransient, DontStackTransientParent I do not pretend to understand what the above should do, but I do not think that Acrobat Reader as started by firefox is transient (maybe the popup window which asks me whether I want to save to disk or display with is a transient of firefox, but acroread should be a totally separated application, I presume) But you said the opening pdf blabla window is transient. The above styles may cause a transient window or its transientfor window to be raised or lowered in sometimes unpredictable ways. Firefox or acroread may use different methods to raise their windows. Please try all of the following lines one by after the other in the config file. # This may disable fullscreen mode in Firefox Style * EWMHIgnoreStateHints DestroyFunc EWMHActivateWindowFunc DestroyFunc UrgencyFunc DestroyFunc UrgencyDoneFunc and as a last resort: Style * IgnoreRestack (and make sure you don't have FvwmAuto or FvwmEvent running and raising windows). Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
