FVWM: XMMS_Playlist is always StickyPage and StickyDesk

2006-09-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

I have never used StickyPage and StickyDesk but since I have upgraded
from Debian Woody to Sarge my XMMS_Playlist is always StickyPage and
StickyDesk.

XMMS_Player and XMMS_Equalizer are normal and stay on the Page where
I have started it.

I was thinking, this is a change from 2.5.8 to 2.5.12/17 but it can
not be, since my Devel-Workstation with a Woody-chroot is working
fine with the same fvwm configuration (it is on a NFS-Share)

Any suggestions?

Is this posible a Bug in fvwm?

Thanks, Greetings and nice Week
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


-- 
Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/
# Debian GNU/Linux Consultant #
Michelle Konzack   Apt. 917  ICQ #328449886
   50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi
0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France   IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com)




FVWM: How to start several Desktops?

2006-09-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
**
* Do not Cc: me, because I am on THIS list, if I write here  *
* Keine Cc: an mich, bin auf DIESER Liste wenn ich hier schreibe *
**

Hello *,

Generaly I am working with Pages (3x2) but now I need several
independant Desktops without starting a second or third xserver.

How must I configure this?

I have not found any Examples (only for Pages).

Greetings
Michelle Konzack


-- 
Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/
# Debian GNU/Linux Consultant #
Michelle Konzack   Apt. 917  ICQ #328449886
   50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi
0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France   IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com)




Re: FVWM: How to start several Desktops?

2006-09-25 Thread Thomas Adam
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 13:16:53 +0200
Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 **
 * Do not Cc: me, because I am on THIS list, if I write here  *
 * Keine Cc: an mich, bin auf DIESER Liste wenn ich hier schreibe *
 **
 
 Hello *,
 
 Generaly I am working with Pages (3x2) but now I need several
 independant Desktops without starting a second or third xserver.
 
 How must I configure this?
 
 I have not found any Examples (only for Pages).

See the DesktopName command -- if I understand you correctly.

-- Thomas Adam



Re: FVWM: XMMS_Playlist is always StickyPage and StickyDesk

2006-09-25 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:22:13 +0200
Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have never used StickyPage and StickyDesk but since I have upgraded
 from Debian Woody to Sarge my XMMS_Playlist is always StickyPage and
 StickyDesk.
 
 XMMS_Player and XMMS_Equalizer are normal and stay on the Page where
 I have started it.
 
 I was thinking, this is a change from 2.5.8 to 2.5.12/17 but it can
 not be, since my Devel-Workstation with a Woody-chroot is working
 fine with the same fvwm configuration (it is on a NFS-Share)
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Is this posible a Bug in fvwm?

No, anything to do with XMMS is almsot _always_ a bug in XMMS, since
that doesn't like to obey anything any $WINDOW_MANAGER (including FVWM)
might ask it to do.  I suggest you ask on the XMMS mailing-list.   Note
that as a tip to you, you can configure XMMS to at least obey some of
what the window manager says -- it's in its preferences somewhere.

-- Thomas Adam



Re: FVWM: XMMS_Playlist is always StickyPage and StickyDesk

2006-09-25 Thread Viktor Griph

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Thomas Adam wrote:


On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:22:13 +0200
Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

I have never used StickyPage and StickyDesk but since I have upgraded
from Debian Woody to Sarge my XMMS_Playlist is always StickyPage and
StickyDesk.

XMMS_Player and XMMS_Equalizer are normal and stay on the Page where
I have started it.

I was thinking, this is a change from 2.5.8 to 2.5.12/17 but it can
not be, since my Devel-Workstation with a Woody-chroot is working
fine with the same fvwm configuration (it is on a NFS-Share)

Any suggestions?

Is this posible a Bug in fvwm?


No, anything to do with XMMS is almsot _always_ a bug in XMMS, since
that doesn't like to obey anything any $WINDOW_MANAGER (including FVWM)
might ask it to do.  I suggest you ask on the XMMS mailing-list.   Note
that as a tip to you, you can configure XMMS to at least obey some of
what the window manager says -- it's in its preferences somewhere.



Not having used XMMS, this is just a wild guess, but you might try to 
style it with EWMHIgnoreWindowType.


/Viktor



Re: FVWM: How to start several Desktops?

2006-09-25 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Michelle Konzack wrote:

 Generaly I am working with Pages (3x2) but now I need several
 independant Desktops without starting a second or third xserver.

Not sure why you'd want it

Historically I have this in my .fvwm2rc

DeskTopName 0 Main DeskTop
DeskTopName 1 Secondary DeskTop
DeskTopSize 2x2

unfortunately all desktops must have the same number of pages and page 
arrangement.

The idea when I did this was to use the main desktop as my working area 
(xterms and alike) and the secondary desktop for special/network 
applications. In fact I still start firefox in desk 1 pag 1, and an xterm 
with pine (mail) in desk 1 pag 3. I used to start a VNC viewer on my old 
remote Alpha in desk 1 pag 2, but since that's now almost always off, I 
end up using the two desktops more or less as additional pages.


I also added this to the typical window menu, so I can force a window to 
occupy a given page in a given desktop from the menu ...

AddToMenu windowops Window menu (Shift-Alt-Space)   Title 
... originl content
 + 0ccupy desktop and page ...  Popup windowsend 

AddToMenu windowsend
# Send to ... Title
 + desk ... Popup windowwspmenu
 + page ... Popup windowpagmenu
 
AddToMenu windowwspmenu
# Send to Desk Title
 + 1 Main  MoveToDesk 0 0
 + 2 Secondary MoveToDesk 0 1   

AddToMenu windowpagmenu
# Send to Page Title
 + 1  MoveToPage 0 0
 + 2  MoveToPage 1 0
 + 3  MoveToPage 0 1
 + 4  MoveToPage 1 1

I also added this to the root menu to be able the switch desktop

AddToMenu WORK_MENU_popup My Work Menu   Title
 + Main Wsp   GotoDesk 0 0
 + Secondary Wsp  GotoDesk 0 1
 + Toggle Wsp GotoDesk prev

And I also added some accelerators to do it

#LC added accelerators to change workspace
#control-1 2 n from desk root go to workspace 0 1 n-1
#control-0 toggles workspace
#shift arrows move among pages in relative way
#note that since focus cannot be given to root it might be necessary to
#position on a window title or side to execute the command
#Key code context modifiers function
PointerKey 0 R C GotoDesk prev
PointerKey 1 R C GotoDesk 0 0
PointerKey 2 R C GotoDesk 0 1
PointerKey Right R S GotoPage +1p 0p
PointerKey Left  R S GotoPage -1p 0p
PointerKey UpR S GotoPage  0p -1p
PointerKey Down  R S GotoPage  0p +1p

however I use these things very rarely (only when I have to run a sequence 
of applications switching repeatedly desks and pages).

I end up to change desktop and move windows across using the pager, or, 
often, I make a window sticky, then change via pager, and find the window 
there, and eventually unstick it.

I've also checked what I did once I exported my fvwm arrangement to a 
laptop I brought at a meeting ... but it's nothing peculiar. I exported my 
2 desktop arrangement, only I made DeskToSize 4x1 because I needed a long 
thin pager on the bottom of the screen (which was not my preferred 
1280x1024).

If you are wanting to run separate desks for sessions on remote machines, 
you'd probably consider running VNC viewers tied to those machine, each 
one in full screen in a separate page or desk.

If you want the remote machine login screen in the viewer, that's require 
some unusual configuration of the remote X and VNC servers (at least it 
did with a remote Alpha, I've never run the server end on Linux), but this 
is OT here.


Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy)
For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html




Re: FVWM: How to start several Desktops?

2006-09-25 Thread Elliot Sowadsky

I have my 2 desks set up so that middle clicking in a pager page sends me to 
that page in the opposite desk.


Mouse (FvwmPager) 2 W   N   SwitchtoDesk

AddToFunc SwitchtoDesk
+   I PipeRead `echo GotoDeskAndPage_func \`echo $[desk.n] | tr 01 10\` 
\`eval expr $[pointer.wx] \\'*\\' 4 / $[w.width] \` 0

AddToFunc GotoDeskAndPage_func
+   I GotoDeskAndPage $0 $1 0


I have other junk in these functions but i ripped those out here.