Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-17 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:30:37PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:05:04PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > The intention of having a show off or default config using PNG is > > a good idea, but one can still have an option "--disable-png" and > > tell people: > > [...] > >

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-17 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:05:04PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > The intention of having a show off or default config using PNG is > a good idea, but one can still have an option "--disable-png" and > tell people: [...] OK -- so what if we do that, but it defaults to using PNG if it's on the

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-17 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 07:36:28PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 07:01:52PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > I'm saying that as an image format used in the wild, all of the projects > I can see don't support XPMs. I'm not saying it's being removed at all. It's > an example

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-17 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 07:01:52PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > And the logical consequence of this statement is to hard code > image formats and remove the library code, no? No. The logic stops in saying that out-of-the-box, PNG image support is available. At a minimum. Other renderers are

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-17 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 02:04:54AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 01:58:10AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > This may have gotten a bit out of hand (fvwm-2.6.7): > > > > $ ./configure --disable-nls --disable-mandoc --disable-sm --disable-shape > > --disable-shm

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-17 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 07:53:17AM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 01:58:10AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > But keep small and/or embedded systems in mind. It's still > > possible to use just the core without any libraries and modules > > and have a very small WM that can

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-17 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 01:58:10AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > But keep small and/or embedded systems in mind. It's still > possible to use just the core without any libraries and modules > and have a very small WM that can even draw basic window > decoration and some graphical effects. Of

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-16 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 01:58:10AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > This may have gotten a bit out of hand (fvwm-2.6.7): > > $ ./configure --disable-nls --disable-mandoc --disable-sm --disable-shape > --disable-shm --disable-xrender --disable-xinerama --disable-iconv > --disable-xft

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-16 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:50:53AM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:01:14AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 05:09:57PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 04:48:34PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > > > Maybe it's a silly question, but

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-16 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:01:14AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 05:09:57PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 04:48:34PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > > Maybe it's a silly question, but *why* does fvwm need mandatory > > > image support at all? Arent's

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-16 Thread Thomas Adam
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 05:36:51PM -0600, Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > What about having libpng be default but having a --disable-libpng > ./configure option to disable? Have it set up to error out if libpng and > that option are not present with an error that says building without libpng > may affect

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-16 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Dominik Vogt wrote: > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 05:09:57PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 04:48:34PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > > Maybe it's a silly question, but *why* does fvwm need mandatory > > > image support at

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-16 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 05:09:57PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 04:48:34PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > Maybe it's a silly question, but *why* does fvwm need mandatory > > image support at all? Arent's images in a window manager just > > gimmicks? > > It's not a silly

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-16 Thread Thomas Adam
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 04:48:34PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > Maybe it's a silly question, but *why* does fvwm need mandatory > image support at all? Arent's images in a window manager just > gimmicks? It's not a silly question, but I'd hoped the commit message said enough. Gimmick is a matter

Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-16 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 08:19:59AM -0700, GitHub wrote: > Make PNG support mandatory > > Traditionally, FVWM has always had the option of not linking to any image > renderer at all. > > But, the entire world has moved on, and support for images is becoming more > important, especially with

[fvwmorg/fvwm] d30479: Make PNG support mandatory

2016-10-16 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/ta/png-default Home: https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm Commit: d304791e3600e3180c22418356dcd9bc45bb3a22 https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/d304791e3600e3180c22418356dcd9bc45bb3a22 Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-10-16 (Sun, 16 Oct 2016)