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2003-08-14 Thread Nadim Shaikli
A couple of quick notes, 1. Snaphots are not being created (last one is from July 30) ftp://ftp.fvwm.org/pub/fvwm/devel/snapshots/ 2. I mailed and tried to follow-up a couple of time with Jason about obfuscating people's email addresses on this list and never got a reply (I

repost - mailing-list(s) upgrades

2003-07-11 Thread Nadim Shaikli
Jason, I had posted this email in hopes to see your comments and possibly see some movement to resolve item-1 (at a min) as noted within, http://www.hpc.uh.edu/fvwm/archive/0306/msg00391.html What do others think ? - Nadim __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL -

Re: Superimposing characters and non-UTF-8 locale

2003-07-09 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Marcus Lundblad wrote: Now it should work to use a Unicde font in a non-UTF-8 locale (I tried using C and sv_SE) and use composing characters (tried with the Arabic strings Nadim supplied). I tested this with normal and rotated text using locales C, sv_SE and sv_SE.UTF-8. Great, let me

Re: Superimposing characters

2003-07-08 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Marcus Lundblad wrote: Marcus, _very_ cool sorry for the delay in getting back to ya. I just downloaded 'fvwm-snap-20030707' and tried the Arabic sample I mailed you. It core dumps on me upon startup (well, fvwm never does startup) - you have all my files, you don't get coredumps ?

Re: Superimposing characters

2003-07-07 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Marcus Lundblad wrote: I just commited my latest changes. Now FVWM can render combinational characters superimposed on top of the base character (even if there is no precomposed glyph). I tested the code with and without xft fonts and with rotated text. Please try make use of it to find

Re: Support for combining/composing characters

2003-06-18 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Marcus Lundblad ml update.uu.se wrote: [snip snip] I can mail you sample test cases and fonts off-list if you'd like. Its rather simple really - you'll need, Yes, that would be nice. Marcus, I mailed ya a tarball a few days ago of all the files you'd require off-list - hope you got

Re: Support for combining/composing characters

2003-06-11 Thread Nadim Shaikli
Marcus, I just tried 'snap-20030611' with regard to combining (which also includes composing -- that's what unicode calls the act of 'superimposing of characters atop each other'). As far as arabic is concerned, still no composing is taking place. I'm wondering if you are abiding by the order of

Re: Support for combining characters

2003-06-03 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Marcus Lundblad ml update.uu.se wrote: I think, as was noted previously, the best approach to take here is to do the following (order matters - I'm listing in execution order), 1. Do Bidi - if needed of course 2. Do Shaping (sometimes described/termed joining) -

Re: Support for combining characters

2003-06-02 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Olivier Chapuis olivier.chapuis free.fr wrote: On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 07:05:19PM +0200, Marcus Lundblad wrote: I implemented a first basic version of combining characters. What it does is compress sequences of characters to the canonical pre-composed form. Additionally a fix for

Re: screenshots page [was - Input on new Website]

2003-04-25 Thread Nadim Shaikli
On 24 Apr 2003 12:49:41 +0200, Uwe Pross wrote: On 24 Apr 2003 at 11:07:29 +0200, Andre Bonhote wrote: - The screenshots page: Could this be reorganized somehow? Maybe it would be an idea to move the existing ones to another page (archive?) and shoot some new screenshots, especially

New website comments

2003-04-24 Thread Nadim Shaikli
A couple of quick comments on the new PHP website (I like it btw). I use emacs and w3m to surf the web (who needs those graphic things anyways :-) and would like to suggest the following, 1. Detect if a user is using emacs/w3m and divert him/her to the layout=plain pages. 2. Remove all

Re: New website comments

2003-04-24 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Mikhael Goikhman migo homemail.com wrote: On 24 Apr 2003 10:51:29 -0700, Nadim Shaikli wrote: A couple of quick comments on the new PHP website (I like it btw). I use emacs and w3m to surf the web (who needs those graphic things anyways :-) and would like to suggest the following

Re: Logo contest on deviantart?

2003-04-24 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Mikhael Goikhman migo homemail.com wrote: Nadim, you suggested to submit a logo contest on DeviantArt, can you find what is needed for this? From what I gathered (and I couldn't get any info from people even on their IRC channel), one will simply need to post to the 'contest' page.

Re: fvwm license going to be revoked

2003-03-21 Thread Nadim Shaikli
On Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:25:30 +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: [snip] 4) I am thinking about allowing to buy the right to use fvwm by making a donation to one of the mentioned non-government organisations, for example Amnesty International. I assume that nobody accepting or

Re: Composing characters within fvwm

2003-03-07 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Olivier Chapuis olivier chapuis free fr wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 04:11:48PM -0800, Nadim Shaikli wrote: Fvwm doesn't seem to render what Unicode terms as combining or composing characters/marks/ligatures (eg. U+0308 or U+064E) correctly. When the character is displayed properly

Re: Composing characters within fvwm

2003-03-07 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Marcus Lundblad ml update uu se wrote: Olivier, I don't think its another_given_char that needs to be produced. What needs to happen (per what unicode notes and what I've seen) is to super-impose the second character on _top_ of the first -- that's why those characters (including

Re: Composing characters within fvwm

2003-03-07 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Marcus Lundblad ml update uu se wrote: [snip] Further, sorting is another interesting thing. Precomposed and composed variants is equal. And then there are different sorting order for different languages, but that's another story... Sounds very familiar; nothing that concerns Fvwm though

Composing characters within fvwm

2003-02-12 Thread Nadim Shaikli
Fvwm doesn't seem to render what Unicode terms as combining or composing characters/marks/ligatures (eg. U+0308 or U+064E) correctly. When the character is displayed properly its supposed to be superimposed on whatever proceeded it; the composing character should also never occupy a space of its

Re: Shaping/Joining within fvwm

2002-12-19 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Mikhael Goikhman wrote: On 18 Dec 2002 18:57:32 -0800, Nadim Shaikli wrote: iso8859-6 is a subset of iso10646-1 -- again, iso8859-6 alone is simply not usable; its visually incorrect without shaping and one is not able to shape sans Form-B glyphs (there are a plethora of posts

Re: Shaping/Joining within fvwm

2002-12-18 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Mikhael Goikhman migo homemail com wrote: On 12 Dec 2002 09:53:48 -0800, Nadim Shaikli wrote: Mikhael/Olivier, I had sent an email with regards to the attached patch to FBidiJoin.c to this list (as well as in private) so as to include the the required changes/fixes to the shaping

Re: Shaping/Joining within fvwm

2002-12-18 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Mikhael Goikhman migo homemail com wrote: On 18 Dec 2002 15:11:44 -0800, Nadim Shaikli wrote: Keep in mind that iso8859-6 doesn't spell out proper Arabic visual support since it doesn't include all the shaped/joined glyphs and as such you should always revert to an 10646-1 font

Re: Shaping/Joining within fvwm

2002-12-12 Thread Nadim Shaikli
Mikhael/Olivier, I had sent an email with regards to the attached patch to FBidiJoin.c to this list (as well as in private) so as to include the the required changes/fixes to the shaping/joining file. I'm not sure if my email was received as I didn't get any responses nor did I see the changes

Re: Shaping/Joining within fvwm

2002-12-02 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Olivier Chapuis wrote: [snip snip] So we need the function: USC4UTF8Length(Char32 *str): return the length of an UCS-4 string considered as an UTF-8 string and also the following function will be useful (to allocate logical_unicode_str at exact

Re: Shaping/Joining within fvwm

2002-11-24 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Ethan Blanton wrote: Nadim Shaikli spake unto us the following wisdom: Ideally it would be wonderful to simply run fvwm and this code under a debugger and single step around for a better feel for what is causing it to go into the weeds. How about running your debugger/fvwm

Re: Shaping/Joining within fvwm

2002-11-18 Thread Nadim Shaikli
Mikhael Goikhman wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 02:44:15PM -0800, Nadim Shaikli wrote: Here is my dilemma, I'm including a patch which works on the simple strings (1, 2 words in titles), but seems to fail on more complex ones without any indicators to why. I'm unable to reproduce those

Re: Shaping/Joining within fvwm

2002-11-18 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Mikhael Goikhman wrote: On 18 Nov 2002 12:09:16 -0800, Nadim Shaikli wrote: Mikhael/Olivier, were you able to reproduce the problem ? In other words, is it core-dumping for you as well ? I'm very curious and anxious to know what it was/is :-) Yes, it more or less core dumps

Re: Bidi status/help

2002-05-01 Thread Nadim Shaikli
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:31:28 +0200, Olivier Chapuis olivier chapuis free fr wrote: MenuStyle * Font -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-200-75-75-c-100-iso10646-1 # replace /opt/kde to KDE3 dir ImagePath +:/opt/kde/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/:/opt/kde/share/icons/locolor/16x16/ DestroyMenu

Re: Bidi status/help

2002-04-29 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Olivier Chapuis wrote: On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 04:02:43PM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: Here 3 screenshots with the KDE-3.0 head menu. The hebrew and arabic screenshot are done with Mark Leisher ClearlyU fonts (Roman Czyborra has also done Unicode font which cover a very large part of

Re: Bidi status/help

2002-04-26 Thread Nadim Shaikli
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 23:26:17 +0200, Olivier Chapuis olivier chapuis free fr wrote: On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 12:41:38PM -0700, Nadim Shaikli wrote: On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:56:05 +0200, Olivier Chapuis wrote: [snip snip] It seems that there is two problems here. - Displaying

Re: Bidi status/help

2002-04-24 Thread Nadim Shaikli
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:56:05 +0200, Olivier Chapuis olivier chapuis free fr wrote: On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:21:55AM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: On 18 Apr 2002 16:37:00 -0700, Nadim Shaikli wrote: Mikhael/Olivier, I downloaded a recent snapshot (20020416) to test out the Bidi

Bidi status/help

2002-04-18 Thread Nadim Shaikli
Mikhael/Olivier, I downloaded a recent snapshot (20020416) to test out the Bidi code that was recently added. I compiled with fribidi; everything went smoothly - configure noted, With Bi-directional text support? yes yet I'm not sure how to go about displaying a window title in Arabic. I

configure fix

2002-04-17 Thread Nadim Shaikli
There seems to be a error in the configure script regarding its checks for perl (snap-20020416) - I'm attaching a patch (so that the lines don't get wrapped) that corrects that error and realigns that code fragment for better readability. - Nadim

Re: detecting fribidi?

2002-03-03 Thread Nadim Shaikli
--- Olivier Chapuis wrote: Ok, I will try to start. At least I will try to find out which is the canonical charset used by a given font (this is needed by iconv). But in fact it seems to me that it is difficult to determine when the fribidi filter should be applied to a string. Let us say

Re: Adding Bidi to Fvwm ?

2002-02-22 Thread Nadim Shaikli
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:02:33 + Mikhael Goikhman migo homemail com wrote: On 21 Feb 2002 12:08:45 -0800, Nadim Shaikli wrote: With the recent work on multibyte support in Fvwm2 - has any thought been given to those languages that are right-to-left oriented (Arabic, Farsi, Hebrew, etc

Adding Bidi to Fvwm ?

2002-02-21 Thread Nadim Shaikli
With the recent work on multibyte support in Fvwm2 - has any thought been given to those languages that are right-to-left oriented (Arabic, Farsi, Hebrew, etc...) ? In other words, have any considerations been given to the addition of Bidi (Bi-directionality) ?