The Fat Lady Sings: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program Expanded to All White G3 iBooks

2004-06-29 Thread illovox
iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program Expanded to All White G3 iBooks Apple's iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program now includes serial numbers up to the UV342 range This expansion to the iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program is the inclusion of certain additional iBooks

Re: The Fat Lady Sings: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program Expanded to All White G3 iBooks

2004-06-29 Thread Tim Gochnour
On Jun 29, 2004, at 6:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program Expanded to All White G3 iBooks Apple rocks. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1st/pci-powermacs list nanny You know sometimes I get the sudden urge to run around naked. But then I just drink some Windex

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-31 Thread David M. Ensteness
List nanny closed the topic so I didn't bother to read this. Nor am I going to quote any of it below, when a topic is closed, well I think its spose to be stopped. David -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-31 Thread Robin Ashe
It was done at the same time as I sent the last couple of ones. It wouldn't hurt to check the send time once in a while. On 1/30/04 10:57 PM, David M. Ensteness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List nanny closed the topic so I didn't bother to read this. Nor am I going to quote any of it below,

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-31 Thread John Acuff
On Saturday, January 31, 2004, at 01:53 AM, Robin Ashe wrote: On 1/30/04 9:30 PM, David M. Ensteness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh? A CD design flaw. What was the flaw and what model we talking about ... ? iMac Rev B. All the tray loading iMacs had this problem. They were very fragile. All tray

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-31 Thread Matt Halter
On Saturday, January 31, 2004, at 01:53 AM, Robin Ashe wrote: All the tray loading iMacs had this problem. They were very fragile. Funny, my tray loading iMac has worked from day one. Guess you are lying to make a point since all tray loaders don't have this problem. The standard CD drive

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-31 Thread Mike Sheridan
2000 (or so petitioners)/800,000 (ibooks sold, TMO) =.0025 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-31 Thread James Rohde
On 1/30/04, Robin Ashe wrote: No need to start flaming. Having just waded through all the posts (marginally or maybe not-so) related to the topic, I'd say it's gone way past 'starting'... ;-) Can we move on to more productive topics (at risk of starting another flame about what is more

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-31 Thread Tom Ethen
I feel that Apple could have handled it better from a PR standpoint, which made it look like they were ignoring the issue. I don't believe they ever intended to stick customers with laptops with hardware issues and not stand behind their obligation to fix them. I guess I would like to know why

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread David M. Ensteness
First, Apple never said anything about the problem publicly, that includes a denial, so they never lied about it. The 1889 signatures may or may not be accurate as online petitions are not the most accurate manners of protest in the world. Pending class action suit in this case is a nice way

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread David M. Ensteness
I have read just about all there is available on it and have a bit of experience with it myself. No, my opinion is not changing based on anything you offered, nor are your retorts accurate, go do some more digging. While you berate Apple for not saying YEAH ITS BROKE. You don't take into

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread Brandy
Bit Long winded there! ;-) Brandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/29/04 11:00 PM, David M. Ensteness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, Apple never said anything about the problem publicly, that includes a denial, so they never lied about it. Still hold that opinion? LOTS OF BLAH

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread Bigbikerbo
I disagree. Nobody is out but the owners, stockholders, and investors and future users and recipients of Apple product. Due to the assenine class-action suit against Apple, this has had lots of press. I have it from a good source that they've been working on this program for nearly 14

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread Robin Ashe
On 1/30/04 8:23 AM, David M. Ensteness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read just about all there is available on it and have a bit of experience with it myself. No, my opinion is not changing based on anything you offered, nor are your retorts accurate, go do some more digging. So you still

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread Robin Ashe
Do you have a source on that? I'd be interested in reading more about it. On 1/30/04 4:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That said, the other real winner is ATI. The whole problem is due to a poorly designed and faulty ATI Rage Pro chip, not by evil Republicans in the dark

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread Brandy
Solution! Apple make or (aquire) all new reliable replacement parts, consumer sends em in; get em fixed! Everyone's happy! No B.S., NO lawsuits, NO higher prices! Quite simple! Brandy -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com |

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread David M. Ensteness
Uhm, because a bunch of people claim they have similar symptoms does not mean there is a known issue. Sorry but it actually does take some RD time to determine such things. What research have you done into the matter to understand just what the problem(s) are, under what condition(s) such

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread David M. Ensteness
Well, in actuality there are three issues, one is the over heating issue cited by Bigbikerbo here, the second is a cable routing issue causing stress on the video ribbon cable, and the third is an off shoot of the second where the stress is focused on the inverter board for said cable. Oh, but

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread Robin Ashe
No need to start flaming. Of course they only cover certain models, which doesn't happen to include the one my mom is having troubles with (as well as a large number of other people). Regardless, I wouldn't want a new Mac, I'd want an old one that has been proven to be reliable. Of the 3 Macs my

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread Robin Ashe
On 1/30/04 8:08 PM, David M. Ensteness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, in actuality there are three issues, one is the over heating issue cited by Bigbikerbo here, the second is a cable routing issue causing stress on the video ribbon cable, and the third is an off shoot of the second where

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread David M. Ensteness
Oh? A CD design flaw. What was the flaw and what model we talking about ... ? I ask because many Mac users like to complain and whine, thing is, I don't believe that many of us realize how much better we have it. I run Linux, Classic Mac OS, Windows, and Mac OS X. Linux lacks the refinement

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread Robin Ashe
Wait a second, anytime something is reported it is therefore substantiated? Your logic is way beyond faulty on this one. Apple said they were not aware of an issue, that has not been proven false. Wrong! They said There is no known issue. In other words the issue didn't exist. You shouldn't

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread David M. Ensteness
I am not assuming. This is getting repetitive ... I have said more than once that a known issue is not just something that can be said in passing, there are legal implications when a company makes that statement, its not defined the same way as you noticing something. Apple said they were not

Re: [all done] iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread David M. Ensteness
Sure. David On Jan 31, 2004, at 12:37 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Folks, Please, put it to rest. That thread has been going on long enough now. I declare it closed. -Laurent. List nanny. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-30 Thread Robin Ashe
On 1/30/04 9:30 PM, David M. Ensteness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh? A CD design flaw. What was the flaw and what model we talking about ... ? iMac Rev B. All the tray loading iMacs had this problem. They were very fragile. The standard CD drive that came in my PC that was manufactured around

iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-29 Thread Al Poulin
See: http://www.apple.com/support/ibook/faq/ -- Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com |

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-29 Thread Andrew Kershaw
See: http://www.apple.com/support/ibook/faq/ Yay, Apple makes good! Some of the juicier details: When does the iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program begin? The program begins on January 28, 2004. How long is the iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program available? The program covers

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-29 Thread Robin Ashe
On 1/29/04 2:22 PM, Al Poulin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See: http://www.apple.com/support/ibook/faq/ It's about time. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-29 Thread David M. Ensteness
Well, they do have to narrow it down to a particular cause and figure out a solution for it before they release a plan to fix it, otherwise they are just blowing sunshine up our butts ... and wasting our time and their money in short term fixes. Besides, they are also reimbursing anyone who

Re: iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program

2004-01-29 Thread Robin Ashe
I agree with you somewhat. What they should have done is admit that they knew there was a problem right off the bat and said they were investigating it. Instead they blatantly lied to at least 1889 customers (that was the latest number of signatures on the pending class action suit against Apple