Most informative.  I have some homework to do :-)  Thanks, both to you and to 
Dr. Hogenhaven.

On Thursday 14 April 2005 01:43, Søren Holst wrote:
> Dave,
>
> I took the liberty of forwarding your mail to my friend and colleague dr.
> J. Høgenhaven, who is the one I usually turn to with paleographic puzzles
> -- he happens to be working on the Copper Scroll at present. Here is his
> answer.
>
> all the best Søren
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Distinguishing between the letters he and het does, in fact, pose
> considerable problems, as far as the Copper Scroll is concerned. The
> problem is not limited to 3Q15 but reflects the type of script used here,
> the type described by F. Cross as a "Herodian vulgar semiformal" script.
> This is found in a number of Q documents and frequently in inscriptions. He
> and het are here often practically indistinguishable, both being made with
> a doubly "looped" upper crossbar. This form is sometimes simplified, but
> there is not necessarily a fixed pattern for simplifying the form, enabling
> the reader to distinguish properly between he and het. In the case of 3Q15,
> the problems may be reinforced by the special requirements of the material,
> and by the fact that a craftsman rather than a scribe may have undertaken
> the actual engraving of the letters. The person (or persons) who engraved
> the letters could have been illiterate, simply copying from a master text.
> This assumption is supported by the fact that it is also in a number of
> cases difficult to distinguish between bet and kap, dalet and resh, in
> 3Q15. One look at, say, the last column of 3Q15, will show the variety of
> forms used for he and het: In col. XII, l. 1, we find a he in the first
> word (zhb), but compare the het in the last line of the column (first word
> 'hd) and the initial .he in the last word of line 1. See also the het in
> line 2 (first word tht) and the he in line 3 (first word bhr). A well-known
> case of this problem affecting the interpretation is col. III, lines 8 and
> 11, where Milik identifies the biblical place-name mlh ("Milloh", with a
> he), whilst others read mlhm (with a het). DJD III (Milik's edition of
> 3Q15) includes a section on the palaeography of the document, written by
> Cross.
>
> > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> > Fra:        [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] på
> > vegne af Dave Washburn Sendt:       13. april 2005 00:33
> > Til:        'Megillot'
> > Emne:       [Megillot] Allegro on the Copper Scroll
> >
> > I've been re-reading John Allegro's old book on the copper scroll with
> > its transcription and drawn representation, and something is bothering
> > me.  In every scroll that I know of, the letter he is made with a
> > horizontal stroke across the top of the two uprights and extending just a
> > smidge beyond the left one, while heth is made with two uprights and a
> > slightly lowered bar between them, sort of like a poorly-written Latin H.
> >  Allegro's transcription of the copper scroll, based on the drawings on
> > the opposite pages, appears to reverse these two letters, with the
> > H-shaped one transcribed as he and the other as heth.  Is this a
> > particular feature of that one scroll, Allegro's speculation, or my
> > bifocals acting up again?
> >
> > --
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