Most informative. I have some homework to do :-) Thanks, both to you and to Dr. Hogenhaven.
On Thursday 14 April 2005 01:43, Søren Holst wrote: > Dave, > > I took the liberty of forwarding your mail to my friend and colleague dr. > J. Høgenhaven, who is the one I usually turn to with paleographic puzzles > -- he happens to be working on the Copper Scroll at present. Here is his > answer. > > all the best Søren > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Distinguishing between the letters he and het does, in fact, pose > considerable problems, as far as the Copper Scroll is concerned. The > problem is not limited to 3Q15 but reflects the type of script used here, > the type described by F. Cross as a "Herodian vulgar semiformal" script. > This is found in a number of Q documents and frequently in inscriptions. He > and het are here often practically indistinguishable, both being made with > a doubly "looped" upper crossbar. This form is sometimes simplified, but > there is not necessarily a fixed pattern for simplifying the form, enabling > the reader to distinguish properly between he and het. In the case of 3Q15, > the problems may be reinforced by the special requirements of the material, > and by the fact that a craftsman rather than a scribe may have undertaken > the actual engraving of the letters. The person (or persons) who engraved > the letters could have been illiterate, simply copying from a master text. > This assumption is supported by the fact that it is also in a number of > cases difficult to distinguish between bet and kap, dalet and resh, in > 3Q15. One look at, say, the last column of 3Q15, will show the variety of > forms used for he and het: In col. XII, l. 1, we find a he in the first > word (zhb), but compare the het in the last line of the column (first word > 'hd) and the initial .he in the last word of line 1. See also the het in > line 2 (first word tht) and the he in line 3 (first word bhr). A well-known > case of this problem affecting the interpretation is col. III, lines 8 and > 11, where Milik identifies the biblical place-name mlh ("Milloh", with a > he), whilst others read mlhm (with a het). DJD III (Milik's edition of > 3Q15) includes a section on the palaeography of the document, written by > Cross. > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > > Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] på > > vegne af Dave Washburn Sendt: 13. april 2005 00:33 > > Til: 'Megillot' > > Emne: [Megillot] Allegro on the Copper Scroll > > > > I've been re-reading John Allegro's old book on the copper scroll with > > its transcription and drawn representation, and something is bothering > > me. In every scroll that I know of, the letter he is made with a > > horizontal stroke across the top of the two uprights and extending just a > > smidge beyond the left one, while heth is made with two uprights and a > > slightly lowered bar between them, sort of like a poorly-written Latin H. > > Allegro's transcription of the copper scroll, based on the drawings on > > the opposite pages, appears to reverse these two letters, with the > > H-shaped one transcribed as he and the other as heth. Is this a > > particular feature of that one scroll, Allegro's speculation, or my > > bifocals acting up again? > > > > -- > > Dave Washburn > > http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur > > Reality is what refuses to go away when > > you stop believing in it. > > _______________________________________________ > > g-Megillot mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot > > _______________________________________________ > g-Megillot mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot -- Dave Washburn http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur Reality is what refuses to go away when you stop believing in it. _______________________________________________ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot