Hi,
When it comes to Linux almost everyone uses Orca the screen reader for
the Gnome graphical desktop environment. It comes with one free
software synth, ESpeak, but you can compile or configure speech
drivers for a lot of other software synths such as the Cepstral
voices, Eloquence, Dectalk,
Hi Neophyte,
Yes, I still own and run USA Games. Our website is
http://www.usagamesinteractive.com
and right now we are working on our new cross-platform initiative.
Since I am primarily a Linux user myself I've began the process of
producing games for Linux while maintaining support for Windows.
I'll be looking forward to it philip.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 version 1.2.
Hi guys,
The reason I have
Actually niophyte, hardware screen readers went out in the early 90's
because they were tremendously clunky to use.
these days, screen reading is provided by a number of software programs.
windows users have a choice of various programs, such as Hal, jaws system
access and window eyes, while
I must interject. The first mention of Mr Motor in this thread was
typed by one Ms Lori Duncan. Unless Mr Chou can provide evidence of
ownership, my client shall lay claim to the naming genius.
Lori, just holding the fort. My people will call your people to sort
out the fees for representation
Hi there,
I'm not sure the right way to address lots of people in one email reply,
so I'll just break it down into chunks and preface each chunk with the
person's name. I hope that's okay. Please let me know if there's a better
way! Smiles.
To Sky.
Thanks for the warm welcome. That's awesome to
Hi Neophyte,
Welcome to the list. I have been creating computer games since 1980. Blind
accessible computer games since 1990. Guess they are not the type of games
that you are into though. My games are sound based and use the free Microsoft
sapi5 text to speech engine for speech.
Here is
Bowling Scores 11-02-2010 By Jim Kitchen
Today's average = 193
total points in the 3 games = 579
Your bowling average now = 170.03
total points in the 116 games = 19723
Today's low game = 184
Today's high game = 204
All time low game = 124
All time high game = 230
88 wins
27 losses
1
Hi Thomas,
Guess I'm a dinosaur as I would not be without my Triple Talk USB hardware
synthesizer on my game development computer. Not for human speech quality, but
in other ways it is so much better than Eloquence.
BFN
Jim
BBS: a method to triple your phone bill.
j...@kitchensinc.net
Agreed, love it too. Best side scroller we have at the moment in my
oppinion.
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From: Ian McNamara ianandri...@googlemail.com
To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 1:08 AM
Subject:
Hi Hayden,
To start with I actually first heard about Linux while I was a student
of Wright State University around 1998 or 1999. At the time I was
taking a lot of computer science courses, and I was taking a course on
network administration as well as various programming courses.
When it comes
Hi
Is the 1.0 full version of game creation toolkit will it be available
soon? It will be fun to make my own games without learning a programming
language. And then when I get more familiar with how it works I can
start learning the scripting language for bgt.
Josh
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Oh dear, post counts are under threat now!
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Behalf Of Hayden Presley
Sent: 01 November 2010 23:39
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for October 2010
In that case, I will do the right thing and admit to false claims of
ownership. lol. May the people have mercy! grins.
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There's no mercy here punk!
No people either, so it's not as bad as that first line would have you believe.
On 11/3/10, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote:
In that case, I will do the right thing and admit to false claims of
ownership. lol. May the people have mercy! grins.
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plan to release it just in time for the holidays, by the end of November.
In this phrase matching game, you match the beginnings of up to 26 phrases with
their endings. So far, there are over 320 phrases, giving you
Well, guess the no people factor explains the no mercy then, right lol.
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Hi Jim,
Grin. I guess that does make you a dinosaur. Lol!
Seriously though I often miss my Dectalk Express, and am a bit
dismayed screen readers are so absolutely focused on software synths
myself. There are certainly advantages to using a hardware synth Such
as sound editing, sound recording, etc
Will there be any charge for the updated game? Can it be installed over the
old one, or should we remove the old and install the new? And how about
registration? Thanks in advance. And, as for bearing with you and waiting
patiently, I certainly will do so. Thanks for the update.
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Hi Neophite,
Initially I wrote my first game STFC in C# .NET, but I have since
switch to C++. Do to some driver compatibility issues we have decided
to adopt two different API standards for our games. On the Windows
side we will be developing our games in C++ with direct support for MS
Sapi 5,
What the heck is waver? Thanks.
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- Original Message -
From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net
To: neoph...@inthecompanyofgrues.com Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New here; saying hello
Hi
Although last week's games were better, that's the way it goes at the lanes.
(grin) That was a good average for this week.
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- Original Message -
From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net
To: Audyssey Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 03,
Sorry, but I gotta disagree. MOTA is better, although it is far from
complete, but Thomas Ward will solve that little problem. (grin)
Super Liam is still good, in my opinion.
All 3 are good, but I think MOTA is, or will be, the best.
And MOTA will be a 3D game, making 2 versions of it
Hey guys,
My name's Kwasi Mensah and I'm working on an accessible iPhone game. I've
been trying to ease into the audio games scene by playing games mentioned on
this list.
I just tried playing Duckblaster (from
http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/downloads/pb-games/ ) and it became
impossibly
Hi Kwasi,
It could be. However, Duckblaster is suppose to get harder and harder
to play as more and more ducks get added to the game. That's all apart
of the challenge of that game.
Cheers!
On 11/3/10, Kwasi Mensah kwasi.men...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey guys,
My name's Kwasi Mensah and I'm
Thanks for the advice. I wanted to make sure I just needed to get better at
it (versus others feeling frustrated by the game also). Time to train my
ears!
-kwasi
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Kwasi,
It could be. However, Duckblaster is suppose
Waver is Jim's wave file player which, mmm, plays wav files, including the
ones in Jim's games.
I believe it comes packaged with the monopoly download and you can access it
from the Kitchinsinc menue.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard
Thanks. I was getting all of the text to speech games into one folder in
case any of them got corrupted, and didn't recognize that one in his list.
Thanks.
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From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
I personally wouldn't like to choose.
superliam is a great game with cutscenes etc, and is stil fun to play, in
fact the same could be said for Tarzan junior, however Mota is a far more
inervative game sinse it's practically speaking the first true 2D side
scroller with significant use of
Hi Kwasi.
Might I suggest that rather than picking random games people on this list
happen to mention in course of a discussion, you go and check the full
information on www.pcsgames.net and www.audiogames.net?
There are many games such as Sarah from Pcs, shades of doom from gma, sound
rts,
If I remember, forgive me if I don't, but I'll send out the release of the
game to audyssey.
My audio games for the blind group.
Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is
welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know
holidays but that's
Thanks a lot dark! I actually saw the email you sent neophyte and started
checking out those links.
I'll be a lot more organized about which games I play!
thanks,
kwasi
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:56 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Hi Kwasi.
Might I suggest that rather than picking random games
No trouble.
I also freely admit that sinse I work for audioggames.net and have actually
writen some of those reviews, there's a litle element of advertising in
there too ;D.
Stil, this is actually the reason for such resources, to make finding
accessible games easier.
Beware the grue!
Hope you have a good time on this list.
My audio games for the blind group.
Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is
welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know
holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want
hmmm
since we are talking linux.
I have a couple choices.
1. I can get grml that has command line systems how easy is it to
get gnome for that with all the stuff I need.
you can email me off list if you want.
the other is to use vinux or ubuntu, but then I need to get speakup
unless you can
wow you have been bussy ken.
I suppose you will have your old games like enemy attack, wreking
ball and darkness up to and the soundrts pack.
To be honest though I hardly play these but still they are good.
Have you fixed issues with your web server I remember a way back
there were issues.
At
well I'd like some old synth myself for gaming I just don't have
space anymore or the old systems.
maybe if I get grml or something maybe fedora core who knows.
At 10:46 p.m. 3/11/2010, you wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Guess I'm a dinosaur as I would not be without my Triple Talk USB
hardware
I have never played Tarzan Junior, so cannot comment on it. But all of the
others are good side scrollers.
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From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:53 AM
Hi tom. I just am wondering if you managed to track down and fix the bug in
mota that makes the game give a blue screen error in mota when you exit the
game? the reason I am asking is because this is the only reason that is
stopping me from playing the game for any long length of time do to
Its this sound player thingys that'll play the sounds from each game.
My audio games for the blind group.
Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is
welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know
holidays but that's only in easter holidays
Were you getting the blue screen error with previous betas? If you have
downloaded and installed the latest public beta, are you still getting it?
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From: Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca
To: gamers @audyssey.org gamers@audyssey.org
You should actually give it a try especially as it's free, you can get it
from Tom's free games section.
it was also produced by philip bennifall back when he was running pb games,
and has various cool features like cut scenes and multiple weapons, pluss
some rather fun bosses and obstacles.
Actually, you forgot me, but doesn't matter, I am perfectly fign with that.
It was your first time, and you should have a happy time on this list.
My audio games for the blind group.
Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is
welcome, talking about computer
He tracked the error down. Though, he is working on fixing it.
My audio games for the blind group.
Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is
welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know
holidays but that's only in easter holidays or
Just the other day I listen to the trailer for 3-d velocity and I can't
wait for this game to come out. Does anyone know how this is going to
be a sequel to treasure hunt? And I wonder if for the holidays if bpc
is going to give a two for one deal. You know wear if you buy one game
you'll get
I don't think so, but their will deffenetly if I'm correct, be christmas
sails, so you'd consider bying it then. Well, its your choice.
My audio games for the blind group.
Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is
welcome, talking about computer problems is
Dear friends,
have you ever this recorder? I want to record some good tutorial of playing
sports games. I got this recorder, but it is not blind friendly (have not
screen reader or other usable). I want to ask you, if you know how I can
simply control this recorder? It is possible this recorder
go to www.blindcooltech.com
I know there are tutorials and such for this and reviews.
There are other places but this is the easiest.
At 10:04 a.m. 4/11/2010, you wrote:
Dear friends,
have you ever this recorder? I want to record some good tutorial of playing
sports games. I got this recorder,
Thank you, mayby it help me:)
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From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Handyzoom H4N
go to www.blindcooltech.com
I know there are tutorials and such
It is not a bug in mota. I suggest you update your graphics drivers.
On 11/3/2010 8:13 PM, Mich wrote:
Hi tom. I just am wondering if you managed to track down and fix the bug in
mota that makes the game give a blue screen error in mota when you exit the
game? the reason I am asking is because
Hey Muhammed,
Sorry. Sad face.
I've shot a subscription email off to your list. Thanks for the welcome
and the invitation.
Cheers,
Neophyte.
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Hi Mich,
Yes, we did finally figure out the source of the problem. It has to do
with your graphics drivers. What you need to do is see if there is an
update for your graphics/display drivers for your vidio card. in 99%
of the cases it will make the blue screen error go away.
Basically, the error
Hi Shaun,
If you want a Linux distribution with Speakup, SWSpeak, Orca, and
basically all the accessibility bells and wistles included I'd pick
Vinux hands down. As I said before it is basicly a clone of Ubuntu 10,
but has some extras like SWSpeak, Speakup, and a few other
accesssibility things
Hi Michael,
The project is being carried out by Jame's next of ken? That's not a big
enough clue for you?
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Muhammed Deniz
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:02 PM
Hi,
My only criticism is the shear difference in level difficulties. I can beat
easy, hands down, but I cannot beat normal at all.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Wednesday, November
Hi,
Nor would I. I must confess that sidescrollers have become one of my
favorite genres of accessible games (as simple as they are, they tend to be
a little more exciting then, say, space invades clones).
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org
Hi,
Correct. You also get reader, which works as a kidn of substitute to
Notepad, if you want to think about it that way.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010
Hi Thomas,
I'm sure you can. (no sarcasm attatched to that comment) Grin
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:13 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Hi Charles,
Yup. I'm waiting for that FPS title myself.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:23 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey]
Hi Thomas,
Why did Screen Readers start relying so heavily on Software Synths?
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:45 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Hey Dark,
Thanks for the tip about there being a version of Frotz with a screen
reader built in. I was pretty tired last night, so I didn't tackle the big
Linux install. Instead I downloaded Winfrotz TTS and started playing Mite,
one of the interactive fiction works from the two thousand and ten
Funnily enough haiden, I personally always thought of this as one of the
games' strengths.
I got through easy on the day I bought it (yes, I bought it before it went
freeware), and was a trifle disappointed, but normal took me a degree more
practice to beat and I've never done it on insane.
Well, hopefully when Tom at last finishes the Genesis engine, he will be
able to create more audio side scrollers with vertical components similar to
games like mega man or Castlevania, which will I think be a great step
forward for the genre.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
- Original Message
Hi,
Grml is debian based, so to install gnome you give the command
apt-get install gnome
However last time I had it on my system I still had to do some configuring
after just installing gnome -- to get the
system to actually use gnome as a desktop environment.
Grml is a great distribution as
Probably haiden because hardware synths were A, expensive and B,
inefficient.
I once used decktalk with a short lived screen reading program called win
vision, however the decktalk box was forever having problems, and after
about four months of use the connection betwene box and computer
Hi Niophyte.
The first thing to note is that winfrotz tts is only a partially completed
version of the software, it's also only based on an earlier version of
win frotz 4.5 I believe, so some features which were planned never seemed to
make it into the final release annoyingly.
as to
Hi Dark,
Agreed. I'm just waiting for a remake like that.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:40 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] best
Hi Dark,
Yes, in a way you culd say that. However, let's make a comparison. In Q9
the other day, I attempted normal difficulty, and only got to the first
level of the Death World. I found that the margin between normal and easy
was reasonable, but I don't quite find that with Tarzan Junior. Tell
Hi Neophyte,
I do not recall if Dark answered one of your last question, but I'll answer
that here. Sense the symbol is a result of the Inform Compiler, I do not
believe you can change it to say something like you are asking. If you
could, that would be something interesting to consider.
Best
Hey Tom,
Sounds like you've got more than a few irons in the fire.
How much time do you spend on your projects? Do you work on them one at a
time, or keep a number of them chugging along simultaneously? Do they take
you long to complete? I noticed MOTA is up to something like beta 16.
What
have not played tarson junior for a while will have to get back in to that one
again. that queen b is hard to kill i have to say.
Ian McNamara
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yep never had inuff sight to play them kind of games but people use to try and
help me and i did like the sound of them so i am looking forward to maybey
seeing some games based on mainstreem titals.
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Hi,
Really? At least on easy she's a piece of cake...or honeycomb?
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Ian McNamara
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 8:51 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re:
Hey Jim,
That's an impressive list of games. But, yes, for now my interest lies
more in the text-based gaming side of things. Despite doing computer
science way back in the day, I'm far from any kind of programmer.
I had a quick read of your site. There's quite a varied list of games
there.
Dark, Here's the problem though. Has anyone actually completed any of
Philip's games on insane, beta team included? If yes then I congratulate you
for a job well done, but if not, we have a problem. especially since some of
his games have been out for a really long time. If people can't beat
Hi,
That's a two-sided coin. On one hand I can see how you can be a bit
exasperated with that (like I said, I do think Tarzan Junior is just a bit
too hard). But on the other hand, it becomes a matter of challenge, of
saying, Ok,I made it to the Cave World Level 3, how far will I make it
today?
Hi Charles,
Yes, that's what I have done. I just had to murge a couple of walkthroughs
together, for simplicities sake. If you don't mind, Raul, I may upload that
to Dropbox.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
I certainly understand where you're coming from, but if the game's too
difficult, it gets to a point where your fastest reflexes won't help you out
for long. Since Q9 is Philip's most recent game, let's use it as an
example.You set game to insane and start walking around. at some point
during
hi i agree with this, the game needs to be hard inuff on the harder levels to
make it challinging but also it needs to be beetable.
Ian McNamara.
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Hi Tom. glad you fixt the problum. my question now is where would I find
updates for my vidio drivers? I know that my soundcard is sb live but I have
no idea what my vidio drivers are cald or what my vidio card is meening
what it is cald. many thanks for any addvice you can give me with this.
Hi Clement,
Good points, all of them. I see your point.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Yohandy
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:44 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game
Clement? Bit confused are we? :P
- Original Message -
From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game difficulties was Re: best side scroller?- Re:Q9
version 1.2.
Uh... where did you get the idea Yohandy was me? lol.
My views are somewhat opposite, actually. True, games have to be
easier, but that doesn't mean what you describe is unbeatable,
Yohandy. This is where one generally resorts to hit and run
tactics... in sengoku basara 3, as an example, I
Hi Yohandy,
Designing difficulty levels is not as easy as it may seem to the player. In
Q9, as simple a game as it is, still has almost 25 different variables that
need to be adjusted and balanced for a difficulty level. This includes the
size of pits, the speed of each enemy, the attack
Hi,
Yep. Lots of email to go through in one evening.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Hayden Presley
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:51 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey]
Hi,
Here's the way I did it for XP.
1. Open the control panel and choose system.
2. Go to system, navigate to the hardware page, and press enter on
device manager.
3. Once Device manager opens, press down arrow until you get to
display adapter and expand it.
4.Press
Hi Phillip.
Now, I have a question. It seems to me that if you want to balance
the game, and if the problem with enemies is that there are too many
of them, could you, say, add an attack for the player that his
everything on screen and knocks them back to give a bit of breathing
room, but
I certainly understand Philip. and my email wasn't necessarily targeted at
your games, but since your q9 thread started the discussion I just used them
as an example. can't wait to try out the new changes! I'd ask how can we
unlock the laser, but you'll probably be evil and not tell us hahaha.
Sorry to get on the case... just one comment then I'll drop it. How
do you get our names confused if they don't even look the same? lol.
At 07:17 PM 03/11/2010, you wrote:
Hi,
Yep. Lots of email to go through in one evening.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From:
yeah, but the points you mentioned aren't exactly available in q9 are
they? lol. If I had such acrobatic maneuvers available to me in the game it
would actually be doable. remember I was specifically referring to audio
games where you don't always get to make such decisions. in fact I can't
Lol wouldn't be the first time someone confuses my name with a totally
random one hahaha. think I was Tom at some point.
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From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 11:29 PM
Subject:
See Clement? This is why I respect your ideas. In fact if this happens we
probably wouldn't even need the laser. I also agree that we'd need more
health items. that's actually part of the problem. Items generate at the
same rate on any difficulties. Man you're a genius. Hopefully Philip will
Well, there aren't too many games to choose from, so I can't exactly
name one, true. lol.
At 07:37 PM 03/11/2010, you wrote:
yeah, but the points you mentioned aren't exactly available in
q9 are they? lol. If I had such acrobatic maneuvers available to me
in the game it would actually be
Just a lot of gaming experience crammed into 19 years. Been playing
games regularly since I was five starting on the SNES, and since then
I've gone from everything from final fight up to Super Street Fighter
IV and tekken 6. Trust me, that teaches you a lot. lol.
And I think this would be
I heard about a golf game that was supposed to be playable on windows mobile
phones. Where can I find it?
Ken Downey
President
DreamTechInteractive!
And,
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Hey, I realized earlier that I did the wrong calculations for the number of
possible phrase combinations in phrase madness.
Per game, there are 676 possible combos.
In the entire game, there are over 10 combos.
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DreamTechInteractive!
And,
Blind Comfort!
The pleasant
its a pitty my laptop manufacturer does not have upgraded drivers.
intel does but the installer detects that I have specially done oem
drivers and will not install.
There is a zip, but then, if it says its not valid for it I don't
know if its safe to continue.
At 11:51 a.m. 4/11/2010, you
grml is also debian but now I know vinux has everything thats what I
will end up getting.
I am not a source hacker.
I will however shortly have an old basically conked out box that has
real issues with its heating.
I am going to dedicate that to linux.
I still like windows as my main os but
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