Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Ben
I completely and utterly agree with you Dark. It reminds me of the Disturbed (a band) situation. I heard an album of theirs from my taxi driver, loved it, downloaded the rest, then bought loads of them a while later. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-bou

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread dark
Hi Tom. that is true, and the way I see things going. also, when discussing the issue of piracy with my mum, one thing she pointed out is that with a physical book, you can lend it to friends and family, as in fact people have been doing sinse the invention of mass printing, so why should

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread dark
Hi tom. yes, I read that artical too. Don't forget as well that t here in the Uk things are a little less rigid life style wise as in the states. What I mean is, my parents aren't big sf buffs, but enjoy doctor who, rather the way a friend of mine does rp, computer games, death metal, nihlism

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Very true. Its interesting that capitalism is driving the technology boom, but at the same time its causing problems for other companies who want to remain behind. That has never been as clear as the SOPA and PIPA acts the recording industry tried to shove through congress this spring. I

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, I think everyone is going to have a rude awakening when that happens. I don't know if you have read it, but Elanor wrote a great article on 7-128's website about the baby boomers reaching 60, and the fact if mainstream video game companies don't act now they could be losing millions

Re: [Audyssey] swamp recording, thanks for your input

2012-06-14 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread dark
I'm afraid I disagree tom, but probably that is primarily because of the laughable state of access in this country. the sooner the publishers stop trying to maintain an strangle hold on media generally, and accessible media in particular, the sooner the digital age and the sharing of informati

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread dark
Unofrtunately Tom, with the rnib being so overbearing in this country, and also having far more control, that atitude gets multiplied a hundred fold. As I've also said with regards to games, I wonder what is going to happen when the generation who grew up in the 60's and 70's, the people curren

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Oh, when it comes to computers specialized digital formats are pretty much an illusion alright. As I already stated I can go to Bookshare, login, download any book I want, and then use the Linux command line tool to convert the Daisy book to text, html, etc. At that point I just removed t

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, I think we get some of that here, but just not as bad. While it is legal to redistribute copies of the RPG source books and campaign guides in an accessible format I think the reason the major agencies like APH, Learning Alley, and NLS don't is simply this belief that blind people w

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread john
As far as I can tell, there are two different kinds of books. One of them has the text of the book in a standard html layout, and the other uses a .smil extension for the actual book. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward Well, I could always ask Bookshare about that, but I was under

[Audyssey] swamp recording, thanks for your input

2012-06-14 Thread john
Here's what I'm going to do: As it stands now I have absolutely no fuel for missions; I'll have to gather this before I can do anything. Once I have the fuel I'm going to do a playthrough of a ten crate mission. Probably later next week (wednesday-friday) I'll be able to acquire some software

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi John, Well, I could always ask Bookshare about that, but I was under the understanding that anyone can redistribute printed materials in an accessible format provided it is in accordance to the US copyright laws. As I understand it amendment 17 section 121 states that it is legal to redistribut

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread dark
Hi Tom. While I understand your frustration, and totally simpathize, for myself your experience has a different ring, being as up until 2006 no starwwars books were vailable in Britain at all! accept a few abridged commercial tape copies. The rnib did none of them. in 2006 they recorded the th

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread dark
Hi Tom. It's a pain, especially sinse in this country there is no government impetus or funding for access, so it's left to the Rnib who control with an iron fist and wouldn't ever! make accessible versions of rp books because (as they told me), "most blind people wouldn't like that" Though

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Believe me I know exactly how you feel about access and copyright laws. I've had to put up with access issues with certain printed books and materials here in the US even though the laws here are pretty flexible regarding distributing printed materials in accessible formats. Still, there

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Such is the joys of international copyright law, and that's precisely why I don't want to go through Bookshare. Sure its legal and I might do it for no other reason than to let Bookshare subscribers have access to the books, but international copyrights being what they are just because it

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Al, I'm talking about the newer d20 Star Wars source books and campaign guides. As you might already know the d20 campaign books and source guides covers the rebel era, the clone wars era, and the New Jedi Order era. I've even heard they are working on releasing a new expansion set for the Old

Re: [Audyssey] swamp, mission recording

2012-06-14 Thread Reinhard Stebner
Play through or play through with commentary, I'd listen to either, but I would like the play through with commentary best. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:42 PM To: gamers Subject:

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread dark
Hi al. Bookshare has the same problem as the library of congress, namely that it is not accessible to those living outside the Us, I remember having to beg, grovel, and finally ring Washington Dc from england to persuade the library of congress to send me books by specific authors that wren't

Re: [Audyssey] swamp, mission recording

2012-06-14 Thread Scott Chesworth
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Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Allan Thompson
I think I have to agree with you Dark. I think there should be accessible formats for the blind, especially print stuff including rpg books. Bookshare does a good job of it, so I don't see why wotc couldn't do something similar if it is so nervous about electronic format. My two cents I suppos

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Allan Thompson
I was just wondering which star wars rules you were talking about. The old west end games or the d20 star wars. Just out of curiosity and not much else. I knowt he west end books are no longer in print so I am not sure if that matters or not. al "The truth will set you free" Jesus Christ of

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Zack, As far as I know there are no official daisy readers out there for Linux, but Bookshare has a tool Linux users can download to convert them to html or text. So its really simply a case of running it through the Daisy to html convertion program and then opening it in Firefox or Epiphany, a

[Audyssey] swamp recording: postponed

2012-06-14 Thread john
I appear to be at a lack of fuel currently, I'll do a mission recording as soon as I can get my hands on a can, but until then the recording will have to be postpone eventually. I'm currently planning to simply run through a 10 crate mission in the large warehouse. If you would prefer I record

Re: [Audyssey] Thursday's Out-Of-Sight events

2012-06-14 Thread Fred Olver
I'm not saying that your posts are off-topic. I'm trying to reason with you. What I'm trying to say which you don't appear to understand is that 1. individuals can easily gain the information directly from the website or subscribe to it. 2. This is a somewhat high traffic list and I personally

Re: [Audyssey] Thursday's Out-Of-Sight events

2012-06-14 Thread Charles Rivard
For some reason, some Internet Service providers don't allow Emails from some providers such as Yahoo Groups. There isn't anything that users can do about it. So, this way, through my Emails, they can get the info. I don't see what your problem is about hitting the delete key when you see th

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread dark
Hi Tom. personally I'm of the opinion that after 20 years of trying to get accessible rp books, fantasy literature etc and being repeatedly stone walled on the issue, copywrite can kiss my rear end! In around the year 2000 I bought a cd which contained word documents of all the old D&D 2nd edi

Re: [Audyssey] Entombed

2012-06-14 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
The online manual and the saved game file. Nicole Thompson-Andrews Pen name Mellissa Green Budding novelist Emerging poet Tweet me @greenNovelist - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey

Re: [Audyssey] New Alter Aeon Articles

2012-06-14 Thread dark
Hi Dentin. I actually really enjoy the articals on the game and have read many of them, (it was reading the turn undead one that is the reason I now have a perfect turn undead as a clerric), so I'll enjoy the history. As I've said before, my only regret with Alter was back in 2004 when i was

Re: [Audyssey] New Alter Aeon Articles

2012-06-14 Thread john
I loved that fifteen year summary. It was one of the more amusing things I've managed to dig up for a long time. - Original Message - From: Dennis Towne Shadowfax has put together several new articles, as well as a long and detailed history of Alter Aeon, going back over 15 years. The

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread john
If you've ever downloaded and studied a bookshare daisy book, you'll notice that some of them are essentially html files. By this I mean that you can read the book in internet explorer. As far as bookshare goes, you can also get a brf file version, which is braille only. I'm not sure how legal

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Christina
Hmm. If the PDF's are inaccessible, you might want to check with www.drivethrurpg.com I know they sell PDFs; they might be interested in selling other formats, especially if you're doing all the converting and editing. It may turn out to be a dead end but I think it's worth checking. Christina --

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Dennis Towne
Thomas, My understanding is that you can't distribute them at all in the US, regardless of form. I believe that the courts have defined a right to "format shift" - so you can scan them and put them into an accessible form for yourself - but format shifting does not allow distribution. If you hos

Re: [Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Thomas, I'm no lawyer, but as far as I understand these things, you are essentially correct. Daisy is one possible format, as is .brf braille. Depending on the method you use to convert these books to Daisy, users can open the .xml file in something like Internet Explorer and read its content

Re: [Audyssey] Thursday's Out-Of-Sight events

2012-06-14 Thread Fred Olver
Okay, Charles, so the question begs, why could not individuals subscribe to the list? Is there limitations which say preclude an individual in Alaska, or South America, or Egypt from subscribing to the list? I guess I don't understand why information which is easily accessible to those individua

[Audyssey] New Alter Aeon Articles

2012-06-14 Thread Dennis Towne
After quite a bit of hard work and editing, the Alter Aeon god Shadowfax has put together several new articles, as well as a long and detailed history of Alter Aeon, going back over 15 years. The new articles cover using the in-game editor, general problem solving, and differences between gods -

[Audyssey] Redistributing RPG Source Books

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone knows where we stand legally on redistributing roll playing game source books in accessible format. The reason I ask is because I have a number of source books for the Star Wars roll playing game I'm in the process of converting to text or html. Once I'm done scan

Re: [Audyssey] Where's my ducky?

2012-06-14 Thread MamaPeach
Yes, you have to use a headset in order to distinguish which direction the zombies are coming from. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:18 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Where's my ducky? Must the headset be used? --- Shepher

Re: [Audyssey] Where's my ducky?

2012-06-14 Thread Charles Rivard
Must the headset be used? --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "MamaPeach" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Where's my ducky? I just grabbed this game and have just finish

Re: [Audyssey] Thursday's Out-Of-Sight events

2012-06-14 Thread Charles Rivard
I post it to the out of sight chat list for those who don't want to, or for some reason cannot, subscribe to the out of sight events list. I send it to other Email lists in hopes of increasing the number of Out of Sight subscribers. If you don't want to read it, use the delete key. Thanks for

Re: [Audyssey] Thursday's Out-Of-Sight events

2012-06-14 Thread Fred Olver
Charles,, I'm just curious to know your thinking behind posting this information to the list since it is easily accessible for any individual who would wish to subscribe to their email list? I ask thisk, because I don't want to block your messages, however I don't care to read this stuff and if

Re: [Audyssey] Where's my ducky?

2012-06-14 Thread MamaPeach
I just grabbed this game and have just finished playing. It is an awesome game with superior sound effects. I made it to level 6 before losing the game. Give it a try. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re:

[Audyssey] Richard De Steno Games For The iPhone?

2012-06-14 Thread MamaPeach
Just wondering if anyone has played any of Richard De Steno's games on the iPhone? If so, could you please contact me privately as I am having trouble progressing past certain points such as spinning the cosmic wheel in Destination Mars and after entering my name on the games that ask for a nam

Re: [Audyssey] Where's my ducky?

2012-06-14 Thread Charles Rivard
Thanks, Phil. Not giving the correct name of an app make is harder to locate. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Where's

Re: [Audyssey] Entombed

2012-06-14 Thread Paul Lemm
Hi, Entombed is probably up there as one of my favourite 2 audio games. It's definitely worth a go in my opinion. One thing that confused me the first time I played was as you walk around the dungeon you should hear footsteps which give you an idea of your movement but in an older version the foot

Re: [Audyssey] swamp, mission recording

2012-06-14 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] swamp, mission recording

2012-06-14 Thread Orin
Hi, Personally I'd just love to hear a recording of the gameplay. Seeing how people play Swamp is part of the fun of these recordings. On Jun 14, 2012, at 1:41 PM, john wrote: > I've been pondering over the idea of making a recording of myself soloing a > couple missions on swamp. Would anybod

[Audyssey] swamp, mission recording

2012-06-14 Thread john
I've been pondering over the idea of making a recording of myself soloing a couple missions on swamp. Would anybody be interested in something like this, and if so, in which way would you prefer it made (as a podcast? as a demonstration? just as a playthrough?) If I'm going to do something like

Re: [Audyssey] Where's my ducky?

2012-06-14 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Michael, The name is Where's my rubber ducky http://www.appspy.com/wheres-my-rubber-ducky-review - Original Message - From: "michael barnes" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:41 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Where's my ducky? Hey, I was on the applevis website looking around and I saw

Re: [Audyssey] Where's my ducky?

2012-06-14 Thread Charles Rivard
Ah. That must be the problem. In the original post, you said the game was "where's my ducky". Thanks. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "michael barnes" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Wher

Re: [Audyssey] Where's my ducky?

2012-06-14 Thread michael barnes
Hey, Charles. In the app store on your iPhone type the following title. Where's my rubber ducky, or type in the developer which is Accessibility Foundation. That should help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey

Re: [Audyssey] Where's my ducky?

2012-06-14 Thread Charles Rivard
I looked through the games on the site and it is not listed where I was looking. I was looking through the free games. Where did you find it? I also did a search in the iTunes store and it did not find the game. Thanks. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - O

[Audyssey] Zerosight extended version problem

2012-06-14 Thread Bogdan Muresan
Hi all. I have a problem in the extension. The problem is in the first mission from campaygn. When I travel strayght ahead to the nord for folow the objective, On the 893 or 900 north coordonate the ayrcraft crash on the montain. The problem is that I can't climb more than 99 altitude. Any help wou

[Audyssey] Thursday's Out-Of-Sight events

2012-06-14 Thread Charles Rivard
Here are the events scheduled for Thursday, June 14th: Happy Hour Chat 1:00 PM eastern Hosted by Ron Nurse and Charles Rivard Location: The Front Porch Join Ron and Charles every Thursday for some good old chit chat on The Front Porch,at 1:00 PM eastern. Discussions will be about anything, and

Re: [Audyssey] Entombed

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nicole, Can you be more specific as to what files you can't remove? Usually rebooting will allow you to remove files from an uninstalled program. Another way is just to open the Windows command prompt and delete them manually via the commandline. Cheers! On 6/13/12, Nicole Valicia Thompson-An

[Audyssey] LOLriffic stuff.

2012-06-14 Thread michael barnes
Hey, does anyone have the contact info for LOLriffic stuff? Or maybe someone might be able to answer the questions that I have. One what is the difference between the paid and free LOLriffic stuff iOS apps? Second does their games have a scoring system? Third can you ever beat any of their games,

Re: [Audyssey] storm eight games.

2012-06-14 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, you log in once per day and whatever income you accumulated for the last 24 hours, you purchase more land or buildings. Then repeat daily for a period of time which you choose. If you invest right, your income will grow. In World War, iMobsters, and Vampires, the income grows rapidly. It's

Re: [Audyssey] Swamp

2012-06-14 Thread Dallas O'Brien
you use the trackpad on the front of your laptop. moving your finger left, turns you left, moveing your finger right turns you right. thats all there is to it. dallas On 14/06/2012, Nick Helms wrote: > that sounds awesome! I'd be using a laptop for this, how would you use > the mouse on a laptop

[Audyssey] Where's my ducky?

2012-06-14 Thread michael barnes
Hey, I was on the applevis website looking around and I saw an interresting game! The name of the game is Where's my ducky, and it is fully accessible to the blind. It is a first person shooter where you have a gun and a knife and you got zombies coming at you. You don't need voice over to play,