Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-08-01 Thread shaun everiss
well it must be a router although generally this does not effect games my dlink and windows firewall does not but I here some isps block ports for security reasons. and some networks do also. At 01:00 p.m. 1/08/2008, you wrote: Hi Yohandy, Well, the two problems could be related. Often times the

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-08-01 Thread shaun everiss
. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Yohandy, What kind of firewalls are you running? It sounds to me like some blocked ports on your end

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-31 Thread Claudio
Hi Johandi! Do you use vista? If yes, I have the same problem with ftp servers like you. I can access most of the ftp server with internetexplorer. The online registration isn't a problem for me, but the ftp's are... If I try to go to an ftp server with my shool laptop, it works fine. I think it

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Claudio, On the contrary I happen to think it is the fact Internet Exploder 7 is brain dead when it comes to ftp sites. If you switch to a free ftp client such as Filezilla you shouldn't have a problem with ftp sites any longer. Claudio wrote: Hi Johandi! Do you use vista? If yes, I

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-31 Thread Claudio
Hi Thomas! yYes, I know, but I am not a fan of them... I love it when I just can go to the ftp-server with ie... But that don't seems possible... Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-31 Thread Yohandy
PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Yohandy, What kind of firewalls are you running? It sounds to me like some blocked ports on your end. If you need some help with this I can try and run

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-31 Thread Yohandy
I have a modem. no router. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking firewall or router's firewal maybe. - Original Message - From

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-31 Thread Yohandy
AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Johandi! Do you use vista? If yes, I have the same problem with ftp servers like you. I can access most of the ftp server with internetexplorer. The online registration isn't a problem for me, but the ftp's are... If I try to go to an ftp server

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-31 Thread Bryan Peterson
] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking quite a few programs including audiogames I've tried registering online do not work. Ftps don't work at all, unless the port is changed from the default - Original

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-31 Thread Damien Sadler
Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Ugh! Internet Exploder? I've switched over to Mozilla Firefox becaus of some problems I've been having with IE. I only hope BSC's games and other

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Yohandy, Well, the two problems could be related. Often times the game might use the ftp protocol to grab some web script which is required for posting high scores or for doing online registration. Yohandy wrote: quite a few programs including audiogames I've tried registering online do

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, Actually, posting high scores to a web site doesn't have anything to do with I.E. or Firefox. They generally run ascript which saves your score to a text file or a mysql database on the web site. This doesn't need to be done through a fully qualified web browser. Smile. Bryan

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-30 Thread Yohandy
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi guys! If you know vipgameszone, theyer games have all webbased activations. Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-30 Thread Damien Sadler
Hi Yohandy, It's probably a port blockage somewhere. Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking and you know what sucks? Rail racer

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Yohandy, What kind of firewalls are you running? It sounds to me like some blocked ports on your end. If you need some help with this I can try and run an nmap scan onyour ip address, and see which ports are open and which are blocked by your firewall. Yohandy wrote: and you know what

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-29 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi, Well I guess you could use the phone, after all that's what Microsoft does. You can force the user to put @signs and stuff like that. If they enter a false email address, they will not get the code, and cannot play the demo. -Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to

[Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-28 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi, Well I am back for now everyone. Anyway, I was reading archives and saw Damien was trying to prevent piracy in ACE Fire. What I could do is, in the demo, force the user to give a valid email address. Then have VB send an email to the person, using CDO, with a code. Once the code is accepted,

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-28 Thread Liam Erven
again. you're assuming the user has a valid internet connection - Original Message - From: Ryan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi, Well I am back for now everyone. Anyway, I was reading archives

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-28 Thread Damien Sadler
Hi Ryan, That sounds like a good plan, but what is CDO, and what if the user puts in a fake address? Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Ryan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:26 AM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi, Well I am

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-27 Thread Liam Erven
. :) --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:24 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, Well said. A lot of times we just don't think. We don't care about the other side of the issue. We only see our side of the piracy issue, and for most people that is enough. However, I can clearly remember such a issue in my own life I now feel a bit ashamed of. Back when I was in

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-26 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Yes, Che's locking system is pretty good. I like it myself. In fact, I was working on something similar, but now I have the problem Mac and Linux handle security totally different from Windows. Now, I have to invent a totally new product ID system that will generally work on

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-26 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Well, how much you have to spend on a new key depends on the developer. BSC has a very fair policy about handling new keys, and key replacements. So does GMA. Microsoft is one of the companies that screws you royally for a new product key, and one of the reasons I am beginning to use

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-26 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Technically that is the difference between intelectual copyright rights and what the actual companies claim their rights are. I don't know if you have read Microsoft's end user license agreements, but according to them you do not own the software you pay for. Specifically, the end

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-26 Thread Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida
... Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-26 Thread Damien Sadler
the producers of the end product and they then go and buy a legitimate copy. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking iai! i'm

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-26 Thread shaun everiss
I understand that part most software will not allow you to crack, decompile modify, or anything like that. However its a pitty you can't easily transfer stuff betwene your home systems when they change. Ok i can see the other viewpoint however I must say that I understand why the every day

Re: [Audyssey] Game Cracking

2008-07-26 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Parham, Not true. I have installed Ubuntu Linux 8.04 on my laptop, and Orca works great with Firefox 3.0. It works a lot better than the 2.x versions. I don't know where you got the information Orca doesn't work with Firefox 3, but it isn't true at least with the

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-26 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, I do understand their logic, but still it doesn't make it right. I can't afford to buy a brand new car, but I can't just walk to the nearist car dealership and expect to steel a new car just because I can't pay for it. Although there is a major price diference between a new car and a

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-26 Thread shaun everiss
Yeah I know, but well it is what it is. I for example have an emergency copy of xp. This to be used if I ever run into issues betwene systems or someone else runs into issues. This will allow me to get what I would need in say a few weeks rather than right at this instant but yeah I know. At

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread Damien Sadler
registered code could be used by generic crackers. Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking would be anoying to a registered user. Its

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread Parham
. :) --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:24 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, Yeah, one time random keys do wonders for cutting down the cracking of software. However, the problem with that method of security is it is just as effective in blocking access to the program for the legal user as the illegal one. For example, let us say you create a random seed

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, Well, if you are talking about online registration it it is a good way to foil your average everyday pirate. Though, the system isn't a fully bullet proof system either. What you can do is setup a mysql database somewhere with every valid name, product key, and product purchased by

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread Liam Erven
ya. and what if the machine doesn't hav net access. I find online registrations unrealistic. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Damien

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Liam, Well, as far as I know most orders for accessible games is done through internet sales. That would indicate the majority of our users do have some sort of internet access. Though, that is definitely a good argument against web based product activation. I had the same sort of argument

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread Liam Erven
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Liam, Well, as far as I know most orders for accessible games is done through internet sales. That would indicate the majority of our users do have some sort of internet access. Though, that is definitely a good argument against web based product

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread Claudio
Hi guys! If you know vipgameszone, theyer games have all webbased activations. Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread Damien Sadler
PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Liam, Well, as far as I know most orders for accessible games is done through internet sales. That would indicate the majority of our users do have some sort

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread shaun everiss
I think che has it bang on with activations through a server, and a way to backup the keys and then if you run on another system you need to reregister but you can backup that computers file to. At 12:25 a.m. 26/07/2008, you wrote: Hi Damien, Yeah, one time random keys do wonders for cutting

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread shaun everiss
, you wrote: ya. and what if the machine doesn't hav net access. I find online registrations unrealistic. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread shaun everiss
AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Liam, Well, as far as I know most orders for accessible games is done through internet sales. That would indicate the majority of our users do have some sort of internet access. Though, that is definitely a good argument against web based product

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread shaun everiss
yes but you can switch to another system with them previding you don't do that more than 3 times. I have only done this once when I switched from my old system to the new one but there is a limit. You can get round this buy formatting the system I think but still I have never gone over the

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-25 Thread Damien Sadler
: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking yes but you can switch to another system with them previding you don't do that more than 3 times. I have only done this once when I switched from my old system to the new one but there is a limit. You can get round this buy formatting the system I think

[Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-24 Thread Charles Rivard
Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even if he does nothing, although I hope he does. I'd really like to see game crackers get what they deserve, and i do not mean a free game, either! -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-24 Thread Damien Sadler
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even if he does nothing, although I hope he does. I'd really like to see game crackers get what they deserve

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-24 Thread oriol gómez
, Damien - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-24 Thread Damien Sadler
... Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi damien, what you are proposing to do is virtually impossible from a realistic stand point. In general email clients save all account settings including the user's email address in special account files in the local user's Application Data folder. If we were talking just one email program it

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-24 Thread Damien Sadler
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi damien, what you are proposing to do is virtually impossible from a realistic stand point. In general email clients save all account settings including the user's email address in special account files in the local user's Application Data folder. If we

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-24 Thread oriol gómez
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi damien, what you are proposing to do is virtually impossible from a realistic stand point. In general email clients save all account settings including the user's email address in special account files in the local

Re: [Audyssey] game cracking

2008-07-24 Thread shaun everiss
. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi damien, what you are proposing to do is virtually impossible from a realistic stand point. In general