Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden, Well, part could be your sound setup. Understand that standard stereo headphones and/or speakers will not accurately render a 3d virtual audio environment. To really do this correctly you need a 5.1 stereo sound card, 5.1 speakers with 5 or more speakers, or some of the pro gamer

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-05 Thread Damien Pendleton
thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi Hayden, Well, part could be your sound setup. Understand that standard stereo headphones and/or speakers

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
true but who has that cash. I spent some cash on some hd205s and hd201 senheiser headsets but and with my cheapy realtech the games sound quite good. I don't have room for the speakers or the cash for those the card and really good phones. As it was I was lucky I got those headphones. At

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, Right. Generally they aren't the kind of thing you can just go in and buy from any electronics store etc. I think I got my set from Amazon.com, but other online retailers should cary them as well. The last time I looked at them they started at around $99 USD and went up from there.

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-05 Thread Hayden Presley
Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi Hayden, Well, part could be your sound setup. Understand that standard stereo headphones and/or speakers will not accurately render a 3d virtual audio environment. To really do this correctly you need a 5.1 stereo sound

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Philip, Yeah, I pretty much figured as much. A lot of people, blind from birth, are of the opinion that joysticks and mice are just extra controllers. The reason is they have never been exposed to the kinds of games that can benifit from alternative controllers and believe that the keyboard is

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-04 Thread shaun everiss
well I got a joystick. I tried a force feadback stick for a bit but it never worked out. Its to big for my desk as it is. I have a mouse but I still prefur the keyboard. I may eventually get a propper gamepad or gaming mouse. THe one with 10 or more buttons something compact. At 10:15 p.m.

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-04 Thread Philip Bennefall
Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi Philip, Yeah, I pretty much figured as much

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-04 Thread Damien Pendleton
Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi Thomas, I believe I will put mouse and joystick in lite, and then when I add force feedback I will reserve that for pro

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, Damien wrote: A game controller and external mouse would fill up three USB ports on the machine. My reply: Ummm...How exactly do you figure that. That's only two ports as far as I can see. One for the game controller and one for the mouse. Damien wrote: I am using a laptop, which

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Philip, That's understandable. Right now with Mysteries of the ancients I am recommending at least a 10 button joystick, but it really is better to have a 12 button joystick or gamepad. Most can be purchased for under $50 in the USA which isn't really that expensive. Unfortunately, as you say

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-04 Thread Damien Pendleton
, 2011 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi Damien, Damien wrote: A game controller and external mouse would fill up three USB ports on the machine. My reply: Ummm...How exactly do you figure that. That's only two ports as far as I can see. One for the game

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-04 Thread Thomas Ward
HI Damien, I see. Well, I guess I understand your logic to a point, but it definitely isn't very portable that way. I guess I was assuming you were like most laptop users that install all of your apps to the hhard drive, and store books, movies, setup files, whatever on the external. That's what

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-04 Thread Hayden Presley
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:05 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi Damien, Damien wrote: A game controller and external mouse would fill up three USB ports on the machine. My reply

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-04 Thread Hayden Presley
...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ken the Crazy Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Also, you could reserve 3d audio for pro. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-04 Thread shaun everiss
well, I have the data on my external and run that. I also have a backup. I have had a drive fall over. I almost lost everything I owned. And that would really suck. I managed to get it back partly by fluke from another broken drive and partly from some other backups. I still lost a few things

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-04 Thread Frost
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 05:29:29PM +1300, shaun everiss wrote: I have had a drive fall over. I almost lost everything I owned. And that would really suck. [My Reply:] Ever think of checking the MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures) rating on the drive to see how many hours it's expected

[Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Pitermach
Hi, Ok the path finding can be reserved for pro, but I really think that the mouse support should always be available. Not everyone will want to make a paid game with mouse support, so paying $100 just for that is a little. hmmm. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Philip Bennefall
thoughts? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Pitermach piterm...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:32 PM Subject: pro was: Re: [Audyssey] programming question Hi, Ok the path finding

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Philip Bennefall
03, 2011 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi Philip, While I do understand your problem I do feel it would be wrong to restrict someone from using mouse and joystick support, and force them to purchase a more expensive license to have access to those devices. One

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Hayden Presley
To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi there, I am not sure. The decision about what should be in pro only is always a tough one. With the same reasoning you could argue that pathfinding should also be available to everyone, since not everyone

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Hayden Presley
, February 03, 2011 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi Philip, While I do understand your problem I do feel it would be wrong to restrict someone from using mouse and joystick support, and force them to purchase a more expensive license to have access to those

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Philip, While I do understand your problem I do feel it would be wrong to restrict someone from using mouse and joystick support, and force them to purchase a more expensive license to have access to those devices. One thing we are seriously lacking in accessible games is decent quality

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Pitermach
buy bgt so he made it open-source. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Philip Bennefall' phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Philip, Well, I guess this all depends upon your view of what is important/essential. You are considering joysticks and mice advanced input features. I don't see it that way. It is my firm believe that all input devices weather it is a keyboard, joystick, and mouse is equally important.

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Philip Bennefall
. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi Philip, Well, I

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Liam Erven
: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi Philip, Well, I guess this all depends upon your view of what is important/essential. You are considering joysticks and mice advanced input features. I don't see it that way. It is my firm believe that all input devices weather it is a keyboard

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Willem
would be a good compromise. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi again, I am really not sure. Isn't it fair

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Ken the Crazy
the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi there, I am not sure. The decision about

Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question

2011-02-03 Thread Ken the Crazy
; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pro was: Re: programming question Hi Philip, While I do understand your problem I do feel it would be wrong to restrict someone from using mouse and joystick support, and force them