[Ganglia-general] Running Ganglia, rrdcached on Alma 9 or Rocky 9?

2023-09-30 Thread Grigory Shamov
Hi All,

Have anyone succeed running Ganglia on a recent Alma or Rocky 9 with system and 
rrdcached working together?

Trying to update our systems monitoring but it is somehow tricky. Any advice 
much appreciated! Thanks!

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Re: [Ganglia-general] How to check Ganglia Version

2020-09-01 Thread Grigory Shamov
On our system: rpm -qa | grep ganglia

libganglia-3.7.2-2.el7.grex.x86_64
ganglia-gmond-3.7.2-2.el7.grex.x86_64
ganglia-gmond-modules-python-3.7.2-2.el7.grex.x86_6

So, the current version is 3.7.2 ; which is fairly old, but we still use it and 
it does the job.

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From: Beyer, Gregory L 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 10:52:01 AM
To: Daniel Rich; ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Ganglia-general] How to check Ganglia Version

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Thank you, Rich, that command worked.

As for whether Ganglia is developed any more, I found this on its githup page:

Version 3.7.0 (Release date 2014-02-28)

I’d conclude that something with no releases in over six years is pretty dead.

Further, since 2016, activity on the mailing list has plunged to almost 
nothing, another sign of RIP, .

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From: Daniel Rich 
Date: Friday, August 28, 2020 at 2:36 PM
To: "ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net" 
, "Beyer, Gregory L" 
Subject: Re: [Ganglia-general] How to check Ganglia Version

Looks like the last release was in 2016, not 10 years ago. But there hasn’t 
been any update at all on their sourceforge page since 2018.

http://ganglia.sourceforge.net

To your original question, you should be able to query gmond for the version, 
for example I just ran this:
> gmond -V
gmond 3.6.0

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On Aug 28, 2020, 09:48 -0700, Beyer, Gregory L , wrote:

Wow, so it’s not being developed or maintained any more.

OK, thanks.
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From: Grigory Shamov 
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 3:58 PM
To: "Beyer, Gregory L" , 
"ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net" 
Subject: Re: How to check Ganglia Version


Ganglia did not update in 10 years or so, so likely you are on the latest 
version.



Grigory Shamov


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To: ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Ganglia-general] How to check Ganglia Version

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I’ve inherited a Ganglia installation.  How do I check what version I have 
installed?

Thanks,
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Re: [Ganglia-general] How to check Ganglia Version

2020-09-01 Thread Grigory Shamov
Thanks, that makes a huge difference.


Grigory Shamov


From: Daniel Rich 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 1:36:18 PM
To: ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net; Beyer, Gregory L
Subject: Re: [Ganglia-general] How to check Ganglia Version

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Looks like the last release was in 2016, not 10 years ago. But there hasn’t 
been any update at all on their sourceforge page since 2018.

http://ganglia.sourceforge.net

To your original question, you should be able to query gmond for the version, 
for example I just ran this:
> gmond -V
gmond 3.6.0

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On Aug 28, 2020, 09:48 -0700, Beyer, Gregory L , wrote:
Wow, so it’s not being developed or maintained any more.

OK, thanks.
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From: Grigory Shamov 
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 3:58 PM
To: "Beyer, Gregory L" , 
"ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net" 
Subject: Re: How to check Ganglia Version


Ganglia did not update in 10 years or so, so likely you are on the latest 
version.



Grigory Shamov


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To: ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Ganglia-general] How to check Ganglia Version

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I’ve inherited a Ganglia installation.  How do I check what version I have 
installed?

Thanks,
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Re: [Ganglia-general] How to check Ganglia Version

2020-08-27 Thread Grigory Shamov
Ganglia did not update in 10 years or so, so likely you are on the latest 
version.


Grigory Shamov


From: Beyer, Gregory L 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:08:21 PM
To: ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Ganglia-general] How to check Ganglia Version

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I’ve inherited a Ganglia installation.  How do I check what version I have 
installed?

Thanks,
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[Ganglia-general] gmond forwarding from one internal network to another?

2016-02-29 Thread Grigory Shamov
Hi All,

I think this topic was discussed here; but somehow I am stuck with it
again.

I have a unicast gmond setup on our cluster. There are compute nodes on
192.168, login nodes on 10.x and 192.168 and the Ganglia server on 10.x
only. I want to forward metrics from 192.168 to the server, preferably
without creating custom routing schemes as it might affect other stuff on
the cluster. So I have following setup:

1) Compute node's  gmond  are deaf and send metrics over 192.168 network
to three of login nodes gmond's. So I have three send channels like this:

udp_send_channel {
  bind_hostname = yes

host = 192.168.x1.y1  port = 8649
  ttl = 3
}


2) Login nodes receive and send metrics. I want them to receive computes'
metrics over their 192.168 interface and pass metrics to 10.0. network,
where my gmond/gmetad/gweb resides. So their send channel is:

udp_send_channel {
  bind_hostname = yes

host = 10.my-gmetad-ip
port = 8649  ttl = 2
}


and they supposed to listen to anything?

udp_recv_channel {

port = 8649
# Size of the UDP buffer. If you are handling lots of metrics you really
# should bump it up to e.g. 10MB or even higher.
  buffer = 20971520
}


3) and the gmond of 10.my-gmetad-ip has similar udp_recv_channel config.

Somehow it doesn't work though; telnet to the TCP port on the server,
10.my-gmetad-ip shows that it gives only the metrics from the login nodes
coming from their 10.x interfaces. The login nodes seem to have the
metrics from compute nodes' 192.168.x interface, as telnet shows, but do
not pass these further, somehow.

I check the metrics as follows:


 telnet 10.0.0.24 8649 | grep HOST

Could you please suggest, what am I doing wrong in this setup? Is gmond
supposed to forward like this at all? Thank you very much in advance!


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Re: [Ganglia-general] rrdcached /gmetad permission problems after update.

2016-02-29 Thread Grigory Shamov
Hi Vladimir,

Thanks a lot! The TCP method seems to be working for me.

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From: Vladimir Vuksan <vli...@veus.hr<mailto:vli...@veus.hr>>
Date: Tuesday, 23 February, 2016 10:27 AM
To: Grigory Shamov 
<grigory.sha...@umanitoba.ca<mailto:grigory.sha...@umanitoba.ca>>, Adrian 
Sevcenco <adrian.sevce...@cern.ch<mailto:adrian.sevce...@cern.ch>>, 
"ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net>"
 
<ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Subject: Re: [Ganglia-general] rrdcached /gmetad permission problems after 
update.

I don't think it depends on a version. I assume anything 1.4.x will work.

Vladimir

02/23/2016 u 10:50 AM, Grigory Shamov je napisao/la:
Dear Adrian, Vladimir,

Thank you very much for the answers!

Does it depend on rrdtools/rrdcached version? Which one are you using ?

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From: Vladimir Vuksan <vli...@veus.hr<mailto:vli...@veus.hr>>
Date: Tuesday, 23 February, 2016 8:57 AM
To: Adrian Sevcenco <adrian.sevce...@cern.ch<mailto:adrian.sevce...@cern.ch>>, 
"ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net>"
 
<ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net>>,
 Grigory Shamov 
<grigory.sha...@umanitoba.ca<mailto:grigory.sha...@umanitoba.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Ganglia-general] rrdcached /gmetad permission problems after 
update.

Another thing to try is to switch over to using TCP for rrdcached connections 
since that avoids contention on the rrdcached socket and should avoid some of 
the permissions issues. For example I am using following options

OPTS=" -t 60 -w 180 -z 180 -F -s ganglia -m 664 -l 127.0.0.1:9998 -s ganglia -m 
777 -P FLUSH,STATS,HELP -l unix:/tmp/rrdcached.limited.sock -b 
/var/lib/ganglia/rrds -B -p /var/lib/ganglia/rrdcached.pid

In the gmetad.conf you can then add

rrdcached_address 127.0.0.1:9998

Vladimir

02/23/2016 u 09:34 AM, Adrian Sevcenco je napisao/la:

On 02/22/2016 10:32 PM, Grigory Shamov wrote:


Hi All,

I have updated Gmond/Gmetad to 3.7.2 on our Ganglia server that uses also
RRDCached.
It used to work, and configuration didn't  change, but bow metrics do not
get into the graphs anymore.
In the logs there is a lot of messages about permissions, and a new kind
of message about imuxsock thing:

Feb 22 13:18:40 host /usr/sbin/gmetad[3554]: RRD_update
(/var/lib/ganglia/rrds/Grex/__SummaryInfo__/rx_bytes_ib0.rrd): rrdcached:
Permission denied.
Feb 22 13:18:40 host rsyslogd-2177: imuxsock begins to drop messages from
pid 3554 due to rate-limiting

Does anyone know how to fix it? Thank you very much in advance!


I had the same problem (and partially i still have one) ..
So :
1. that "drop messages" message is because of the write errors .. you
can ignore that

2. the problem is with rrdcached .. i tried with making part of group
ganglia, change ownership of rrds to ganglia:rrdcached but had the same
errors ... in the end i had to make the rrds dir 777 and i get rid of errors

3. ganglia web does not function with the rrdcached limited socket so i
had to use the same full socket that gmetad use ... i hope that nothing
bad will happen but i have no other choice...

HTH,
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Re: [Ganglia-general] rrdcached /gmetad permission problems after update.

2016-02-23 Thread Grigory Shamov
Dear Adrian, Vladimir,

Thank you very much for the answers!

Does it depend on rrdtools/rrdcached version? Which one are you using ?

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From: Vladimir Vuksan <vli...@veus.hr<mailto:vli...@veus.hr>>
Date: Tuesday, 23 February, 2016 8:57 AM
To: Adrian Sevcenco <adrian.sevce...@cern.ch<mailto:adrian.sevce...@cern.ch>>, 
"ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net>"
 
<ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net>>,
 Grigory Shamov 
<grigory.sha...@umanitoba.ca<mailto:grigory.sha...@umanitoba.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Ganglia-general] rrdcached /gmetad permission problems after 
update.

Another thing to try is to switch over to using TCP for rrdcached connections 
since that avoids contention on the rrdcached socket and should avoid some of 
the permissions issues. For example I am using following options

OPTS=" -t 60 -w 180 -z 180 -F -s ganglia -m 664 -l 127.0.0.1:9998 -s ganglia -m 
777 -P FLUSH,STATS,HELP -l unix:/tmp/rrdcached.limited.sock -b 
/var/lib/ganglia/rrds -B -p /var/lib/ganglia/rrdcached.pid

In the gmetad.conf you can then add

rrdcached_address 127.0.0.1:9998

Vladimir

02/23/2016 u 09:34 AM, Adrian Sevcenco je napisao/la:

On 02/22/2016 10:32 PM, Grigory Shamov wrote:


Hi All,

I have updated Gmond/Gmetad to 3.7.2 on our Ganglia server that uses also
RRDCached.
It used to work, and configuration didn't  change, but bow metrics do not
get into the graphs anymore.
In the logs there is a lot of messages about permissions, and a new kind
of message about imuxsock thing:

Feb 22 13:18:40 host /usr/sbin/gmetad[3554]: RRD_update
(/var/lib/ganglia/rrds/Grex/__SummaryInfo__/rx_bytes_ib0.rrd): rrdcached:
Permission denied.
Feb 22 13:18:40 host rsyslogd-2177: imuxsock begins to drop messages from
pid 3554 due to rate-limiting

Does anyone know how to fix it? Thank you very much in advance!


I had the same problem (and partially i still have one) ..
So :
1. that "drop messages" message is because of the write errors .. you
can ignore that

2. the problem is with rrdcached .. i tried with making part of group
ganglia, change ownership of rrds to ganglia:rrdcached but had the same
errors ... in the end i had to make the rrds dir 777 and i get rid of errors

3. ganglia web does not function with the rrdcached limited socket so i
had to use the same full socket that gmetad use ... i hope that nothing
bad will happen but i have no other choice...

HTH,
Adrian





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[Ganglia-general] rrdcached /gmetad permission problems after update.

2016-02-22 Thread Grigory Shamov
Hi All,

I have updated Gmond/Gmetad to 3.7.2 on our Ganglia server that uses also
RRDCached. 
It used to work, and configuration didn't  change, but bow metrics do not
get into the graphs anymore.
In the logs there is a lot of messages about permissions, and a new kind
of message about imuxsock thing:

Feb 22 13:18:40 host /usr/sbin/gmetad[3554]: RRD_update
(/var/lib/ganglia/rrds/Grex/__SummaryInfo__/rx_bytes_ib0.rrd): rrdcached:
Permission denied.
Feb 22 13:18:40 host rsyslogd-2177: imuxsock begins to drop messages from
pid 3554 due to rate-limiting

Does anyone know how to fix it? Thank you very much in advance!


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[Ganglia-general] binding gmond to an interface?

2015-09-23 Thread Grigory Shamov
Hi All,

Is there a way to bind gmond not to hostname, but to another interface?
For example, if you have hostname on eth0, but want to send your unicast
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[Ganglia-general] How to use procstat metrics in gmond 3.7.0 ?

2015-02-25 Thread Grigory Shamov
Hi All,

I am trying to use process statistics metrics defining them in
procstat.pyconf . In some cases this doesn't work. There is nothing
reported; the metric appears in the Ganglia Web interface but is empty.


What I am trying to do is to monitor my Torque server. I have in the
procstat.pyconf now:
 


param pbs_server {
# pbs_server seem to have PID there
#  value = '/var/spool/torque/server_priv/server.lock'
value='/pbs_server/'
}

Could you please suggest how  to specify the daemon to monitor in
procstat.pyconf? It seems from the examples,  that both PID or process
name cane be specified?

It did not work for me, either with the PID value from server.lock file
(commented out now), or with the string value.


Thank you very much!


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Re: [Ganglia-general] splitting rrds on different hosts

2014-10-11 Thread Grigory Shamov
Dear Jesse,

How does one split a cluster to separate ones, to display in a single
Gangnlia-Web instance? Also, is there a way to make some of the clusters
private, like they do on SurfSara? https://ganglia.surfsara.nl/

 I mean there is a way since its been done, but could anyone suggest how
exactly? Thanks!


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On 14-10-11 1:44 PM, Jesse Becker haw...@gmail.com wrote:

There isn't a way to do it natively, but there are a few ways to work
around it.

One is to split your hosts into separate clusters, and multiple gmetad
instances.  These could easily be on the same host, but use different
disk partitions so there's less IO contention.

Dump all of the files into a single location, but use symlinks to
distribute them.

Get an SSD drive, and use that; it should help a fair bit since the IO
is largely small/random.

Disable readahead on the device in question.

Use tmpfs to store the RRD files, but remember to sync them back to
persistent storage periodically (and restore them again at boot-time).



On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Rita rmorgan...@gmail.com wrote:
 At the moment all of my rrds are going to the host which hosts the
gmetad.
 Is it possible to split the gmetads to different hosts so rrds will be
 distributed? I am asking this because I am monitoring 400 hosts and
having
 I/O disk wait problems. I would like to split the load.

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Re: [Ganglia-general] Huge metrics' size being reported to gmetad

2014-06-30 Thread Grigory Shamov
Dear Sergio,

Somehow on my 300-node cluster Ganglia, with more or less default metrics and 
RRD configs, collects over 40GB! If there are smarter RRD settings to reduce 
the size, it would be very interesting to learn them.

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From: Sergio Ballestrero 
sergio.ballestr...@gmail.commailto:sergio.ballestr...@gmail.com
Date: Monday, 30 June, 2014 10:21 AM
To: Cristovao Jose Domingues Cordeiro 
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Cc: Ganglia 
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Subject: Re: [Ganglia-general] Huge metrics' size being reported to gmetad


Hi Cristovao,
that depends on how many metrics and on the rrd creation settings. Sure 150MB 
looks like a lot. An ls -la may give more hints...

Ciao,
Sergio

On 30 Jun 2014 16:35, Cristovao Jose Domingues Cordeiro 
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Someone?

Cumprimentos / Best regards,
Cristóvão José Domingues Cordeiro
IT Department - 28/1-010
CERN

From: Cristovao Jose Domingues Cordeiro 
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Sent: 24 June 2014 13:58
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Subject: [Ganglia-general] Huge metrics' size being reported to gmetad

Hi,

I have a grid configuration, with several clusters. I am also using RAM disk 
for I/O optimization (4GB).

I've been noticing that sometimes, gmetad breaks, complaining about lack of 
space in this tmpfs partition.

I checked and I saw that for some reason, some clusters, have hosts which 
occupy 3MB, 6MB and even sometimes 150MB All together  makes the cluster 
occupy 2GB and consequently occupy half of the ramdisk space.

We would normally expect these host metrics to have +/- 336k right?

Has anyone experienced this?

Cumprimentos / Best regards,
Cristóvão José Domingues Cordeiro
IT Department - 28/1-010
CERN

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Re: [Ganglia-general] Number of HyperThreaded CPUs

2014-04-17 Thread Grigory Shamov
Hi,

More specifically, somehow in Ganglia 3.6 a solution posted here
previously,  

gmetric -t uint32 -s zero -n 'cpu_num' -v $NCPUS -u 'CPUs'

it doesn't seem to change total number of CPUs or cpu_num of individual
nodes, as shown by the Web frontend.

Could someone advise please, how to count real cores only?

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On 14-04-14 9:14 AM, Grigory Shamov grigory.sha...@umanitoba.ca wrote:

Hi All,

I am sure this has been resolved already, but googling did not bring me an
immediate answer for the new Ganglia.

I've just installed the recent Ganglia 3.6 with Ganglia-Web 3.5.2 on our
system. The system is Intel Xeons with HT enabled, and by default Ganglia
seem to count every core. This gives utilization of 50% max which is not
correct (as we schedule by real cores not HT ones).

So, what would be a best way to report only real cores in the new Ganglia?

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[Ganglia-general] Number of HyperThreaded CPUs

2014-04-14 Thread Grigory Shamov
Hi All,

I am sure this has been resolved already, but googling did not bring me an
immediate answer for the new Ganglia.

I've just installed the recent Ganglia 3.6 with Ganglia-Web 3.5.2 on our
system. The system is Intel Xeons with HT enabled, and by default Ganglia
seem to count every core. This gives utilization of 50% max which is not
correct (as we schedule by real cores not HT ones).

So, what would be a best way to report only real cores in the new Ganglia?

-- 
Grigory Shamov

HPC Analyst, Westgrid/Compute Canada
E2-588 EITC Building, University of Manitoba
(204) 474-9625




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