Re: [Gardeners] Scheme vs CommonLisp

2008-08-14 Thread Daniel Weinreb
Peter, Wow, what an awesome answer. This is exactly right to the best of my own knowledge. I will add a few more facts. As Peter knows, there are a few people out there who are 100% /au courant/ with both Common Lisp and Scheme, technically, culturally, and historically, and can accurately

Re: [Gardeners] Scheme vs CommonLisp

2008-08-14 Thread Daniel Weinreb
nubis wrote: I know, I know, this sounds like ramblings from a person who can't make up his mind (which in part, they are) On the contrary, I think you have a very good grasp of the tradeoffs. Am I to wrong to look at Common lisp for a metaprogramable python replacement? (with less

Re: [Gardeners] Scheme vs CommonLisp

2008-08-14 Thread Daniel Weinreb
Marek Kubica wrote: Scheme does only provides only HOP (runs only on Bigloo) and the stuff that PLT Scheme comes with. HOP is so cool! As long as you want to program in the Bigloo implementation of Scheme. http://hop.inria.fr/ It won the Open Source Software Competition at ACM

Re: [Gardeners] Scheme vs CommonLisp

2008-08-14 Thread Marek Kubica
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:08:47 -0400 Daniel Weinreb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOP is so cool! As long as you want to program in the Bigloo implementation of Scheme. http://hop.inria.fr/ It won the Open Source Software Competition at ACM Multimedia 2007. I saw Manuel Serrano's presentation at

Re: [Gardeners] Scheme vs CommonLisp

2008-08-14 Thread Chris Dean
nubis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can find the differences between them STFW (already found some of them), but I want your informated subjective opinion. What are the biggest differences technical and culturally between Common Lisp and Plt Scheme. Which kind of people uses each one? The

Re: [Gardeners] Scheme vs CommonLisp

2008-08-13 Thread Peter Seibel
Typically Scheme is seen as less real world than Common Lisp but specific Scheme implementations (such as PLT) can be very much real world. Common Lisp gives you more out of the box (i.e. the same between implementations) but depending on what part of the real world you want to deal with you may

Re: [Gardeners] Scheme vs CommonLisp

2008-08-13 Thread Ivan Toshkov
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:58 PM, nubis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, I recently came across plt scheme, through Common Lisp, I've never got a chance to work with common lisp, I'm mostly a python web guy. But when I found Scheme my first thought was this is a 'real world' lisp, I know

Re: [Gardeners] Scheme vs CommonLisp

2008-08-13 Thread nubis
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 00:40 +0300, Ivan Toshkov wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:58 PM, nubis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, I recently came across plt scheme, through Common Lisp, I've never got a chance to work with common lisp, I'm mostly a python web guy. But when I found

Re: [Gardeners] Scheme vs CommonLisp

2008-08-13 Thread Marek Kubica
Hi, On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:58:37 -0300 nubis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently came across plt scheme, through Common Lisp, I've never got a chance to work with common lisp, I'm mostly a python web guy. But when I found Scheme my first thought was this is a 'real world' lisp, I know I can