g_b GayBombay 11th Anniversary Sunday Meet at Thane on 6 September 2009

2009-09-01 Thread GayBombay Events
The GayBombay 11th Anniversary Sunday Meet at Thane on 6 September 2009

The lone GayBombay Sunday Meet to be held as a part of the 11th Anniversary 
Celebrations of GayBombay will be held at Village a unique theme restaurant 
which revives the long forgotten traditions and culinary secrets of the Indian 
culture and heritage.



Village, has a no time limit policy, variety of regional entertainment  
attractions, a gigantic spread of six different cuisines from all over India. 
This one ticket restaurant allows you to sample unlimited food  beverage from 
its well appointed food chowkis cooked in front of you. You get to sample 70 
tempting delicacies ranging from appetizers to desserts.

Begin your gastronomique experience with choicest appetizers  farsans, chaas, 
sugarcane juice and sherbets, hot  cold chaats, main courses from each region, 
select tawa attractions, scrumptious tandoori delicaies, assorted parathewali 
gulli or the robust Punjabi dhaba. Do save some appetite for the sinful 
kadhaiwala doodh, the hot kesar jalebis and the kandi kulfis served with the 
Mishtaan bhandar from West Bengal

V illage, offers a complete experience to its visitors through its well planned 
entertainments and attractions. The verandah hosts rural artisans like the 
kumbhar, the toy maker and Rajasthani handicrafts to view and buy as 
memorabilia. A old wise man welcomes you to the Village by offering a share of 
his hookah, to discuss the worldly matters under the wisdom of the panchayat 
tree. The Panchayat houses vivid attractions like the palmist, fortune teller, 
tarot card reader, Bioscope and the mehandiwala. You would be greeted by a 
Rajasthani Maand folk troupe enchanting you with folklores of bravery and love. 
You can even join the revelry with the band adorning the colourful garba or the 
vibrant bhangra. Traditional folk art of puppets, kutchi ghodi and periodical 
performances of the famed Rajasthani Chari dance, Ghoomar dance, sword / thali 
dance and the garba adorn every other corner.

GB 11th Anniversary Celebrations are very special, and Village, perhaps would 
be the only rare place which offers a complete opportunity for the entire group 
to bond together in spirit and occasion.

Day  Date:
Sunday, 6 September 2009

Time: 
Assemble out side Village 6:30 PM - 7:00 PM.

Meeting Venue:
Village,
Eternity Mall,
Teen Hath Naka (Marathon Chowk),
Junction of Eastern Express Highway and LBS Road
Thane (West),

Cover:
Rs. 349/- to be paid to Village to gain access to their premises

We shall gather outside Village, situated in the Food Court of Eternity Mall 
between 6:30 and 7:00 pm. We shall enter Village at 7:00 pm for whole session 
of revelry and celebration that can last until 11 pm. Look for someone wearing 
a black cap at the assembly point.

Directions:
For those coming by trains: Alight at Thane Railway Station and hail an auto 
rikshaw for Teen Hath Naka. Eternity Mall is an imposing building at the 
Junction

For those coming by Highway: Eternity Mall is an imposing building at the Teen 
Hath Naka.

Note:
1. Do get your friends along to help them gain access to a group especially if 
they are not netizens.

2. You do not have to be out to the world to attend. This is a discreet event 
being held as a clean, safe  social get-together of a non-sexual nature. 
Hardly any of those attending are out as such.

3. You need to be at least 18 years of age to attend.

4. There may be many who will prefer being discreet or may be still be coming 
to terms with themselves hence a request that all be sensitive to this and act 
and dress accordingly.

5. To identify the group look out for someone wearing a black cap

See you all on Sunday.

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g_b Blustring Sahibs and Section 377 [1 Attachment]

2009-09-01 Thread Aditya Bondyopadhyay
Please find the article (review of HRW's paper on sodomy laws) published in
the Economic and Political Weeekly attached.

Best,
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g_b Centre to clarify stand on gay sex next week

2009-09-01 Thread moderator
 

Centre to clarify stand on gay sex next week
8/31/2009

The Union Government is likely to clarify its stand on the issue of
legalising gay sex between two consenting adults, before the Supreme Court
next week.

Union Home Minister P Chidambaram has already indicated that the committee
of three ministers, comprising himself, Union Law Minister Veerappa Moily
and Union Health Minister Ghulam Navi Azad, is going to submit its report to
the Union Cabinet.

The apex court is awaiting the stand of the Union Government on
homosexuality. 

The Delhi High Court in its judgment dated July 2 had held that an act of
homosexuality between two consenting adults is not an offence under section
377 IPC. The HC had also recommended to the Union Government to amend the
said section accordingly.

The judgment came under heavy fire from religious leaders who felt that such
an act was in violation of nature and will spread dangerous diseases like
AIDS in the society.

These religious leaders, some of whom have already approached the Supreme
Court against the judgment, are also of the opinion that homosexuality is a
disease and will spread sexual corruption in the society and is also against
the cultural and ethical values of Indian society.

The Union Law Minister has, however, already made it clear that the HC
judgment is well researched and cannot be contested.

Attorney General of India G E Vahanvati had said on the last date of hearing
that there was no need to stay the HC judgment at present.

In all probability, the Union Government is not likely to resist the HC
judgment.

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g_b File - Tired of too many mails?

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g_b Fwd: Castigated and celebrated (on Caster Semenya)

2009-09-01 Thread Aditya Bondyopadhyay
 http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Insight/Article.aspx?id=1056989

   http://www.thetimes.co.za/ Castigated and celebrated  Published:Aug
29, 2009
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PATRIOT GAMES: The outpouring of support for star athlete Caster Semenya
from political quarters could be nothing more than expediency. Picture: MARK
DADSWELL/ GETTY
Our society’s response to the difference she represents, signifies a
significant shift in social norms http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php

Had the acceptance by South Africans of athlete Caster Semenya’s difference
been extended to murdered footballer Eudy Simelane she may have still been
alive today, writes Mark Gevisser

Two highly accomplished, young, black, female South African athletes are
currently in the news. One came home to a hero’s welcome and got to meet the
president. The other is dead, her alleged assailants in a Delmas court this
week on trial for her rape and murder.

Blessed with masculine looks and physiques, both women chose the sportsfield
over more feminine pursuits. Both experienced ostracism because they
challenged stereotypes and both appear to have dealt with this by devoting
themselves to their codes.

Caster Semenya, 18, won the 800m at the world athletics championships last
week; Eudy Simelane had been a member of Banyana Banyana, the women’s
national football team, and was training to be a professional referee when
she was murdered in KwaThema aged 29 last year.

Both women appear to have been punished — one in the most severe way
possible — for their difference and their excellence. Semenya has been dealt
the humiliation of having her gold medal withheld until she proves she is a
woman.

And although the prosecutor failed to establish a connection between
Simelane’s sexual orientation and her murder, her friends are convinced she
was the victim of an epidemic of violence against lesbians, who are
subjected to what is sometimes called “corrective rape” by men seeking to
punish or cure them; or who feel that butch women are competing with them by
straying into their territory.

According to Phumi Mtetwa, director of the Lesbian and Gay Equality Project,
at least 20 women have been killed, in ways similar to Simelane, over the
past five years.

In the shadow of such violence, what are we to make of the extraordinary
surge of emotion and patriotism in support of Semenya?

Much of it seems driven by grievance, by the sense that South Africans have
been denied a rightful reward. There was conscious reference, by
parliamentarians, to Saartjie Baartman, and perhaps the national anger at
Semenya’s humiliation arises out of what we might call our Bartman Complex,
a particularly South African anxiety, that we will gain notoriety for our
alleged abnormality rather than celebrity for our excellence. Or, worse yet,
that we will be revealed as Mugabes rather than Madibas; that the world will
take away our gold medal and label us freakish instead.

But the upside to this anger is the acknowledgement that we strive towards a
society based on something different than the repressive notions of gender
roles inherited from colonial law-makers and patriarchal African society.

Welcoming Semenya home this week, Jacob Zuma gave eloquent voice to this:
not only had the athlete “showcased women’s achievement, power and
strength’’, but she had “reminded the world of the importance of the rights
to human dignity and privacy’’.

And so there is a way that the current adulation of Semenya — even if it is
fuelled in part by jingoism and wounded pride — vindicates the memory of
Simelane, and other young women who have been victimised because they are
too butch for comfort.

This is not to suggest, for a moment, that Semenya herself is a lesbian, or
a transsexual, or intersexed, or anything other than a shy and determined
young woman who is a demon on the racetrack. Rather, it is to acknowledge
the way our society’s response to the difference she represents — the
language it uses to protect her — signifies a significant shift in social
norms since the advent of democracy.

Listen, for example, to Leonard Chuene, the blowhard South African athletics
chief: “I am not going to let that girl be humiliated, because she has not
committed (any) crime whatsoever. Her crime was to be born the way she is
born,” he said to one journalist in Berlin. And to another: “Why must she be
subjected to this? How you look and behave is a God-given thing. You do not
have a say in that.”

Leaving the nature/nurture debate aside (is how we behave a ‘God-given
thing’?), Chuene’s comments acknowledge that Semenya’s gender identity is
inherent and integral rather than perverse and pathological. And in
acknowledging this, he is using (even if unwittingly) a template provided by
the struggle for gay equality in South Africa. The winning argument, in this
struggle, was that to discriminate against people because of gender identity
or sexuality was to punish them for inherent 

g_b Fwd: We celebrate otherness today (on Caster Semenya)

2009-09-01 Thread Aditya Bondyopadhyay
 http://www.mg.co.za/article/2009-08-31-we-celebrate-otherness-today

 We celebrate otherness today COLLEEN LOWE MORNA: COMMENT - Aug 31 2009
06:00

Long before the Caster Semenya sex-test row hit the headlines, South
Africans in all their corners were questioning her identity.

Inevitably questions such as “would you want to be seen with her”, “would
you marry her” and “she must be a lesbian” peppered conversation. It’s
wonderful how the rainbow nation has rallied around its “golden girl”. But
how deep, how broad, how far and for how long will this celebration of
otherness last?

Remember, Semenya’s agony did not start with (though it will be considerably
aggravated by) being thrust under the global media spotlight. It started
with being a little girl who liked playing soccer in the dusty plains of
Limpopo, who has been refused entry into public toilets and whose
humiliation did not start in Berlin.

As I watched the headlines progress from “She’s a lady, man” and “Yes, she’s
a girl” to “All black, all gold, she’s our girl”, I could not help but
remember the story of Marco Ndlovu, one of many women who annually
participate in workshops to chronicle their lives at Gender Links.

The following are a few lines from her testimony, written under the header
“Finding the real me”: “I am a 39-year-old black lesbian born into to a
family of eight, of whom only five survived. Gender violence has been so
much a part of my life that at times I wonder if there is such a thing as a
life free of violence.

“As a lesbian, hate, violence and misogyny follow me wherever I go. I became
pregnant as a result of being raped by a man I believed to be a friend. I
have been beaten almost to pulp because of my sexual orientation.

“I have a female lover, but since she is not ready to be open about our
relationship, we have to keep it secret. While I look for whatever job I can
get so that I can build a home for my children and grandchildren, I write
poetry and create the world of my dreams with the words that flow from my
pen.

I am Marco, a proud woman, who loves her two daughters, who loves other
women, and who -- despite the pain and suffering that I have endured -- is
finally finding the real me.”

I remembered Marco, because like Semenya she is athletic, muscular,
flat-chested and could easily be mistaken for a man. Unlike Semenya, she
will not have a hero’s welcome, meet the president or have the whole nation
proclaim her right to be.

As we welcome Semenya home, it behoves us to ask how many others there are
out there, men and women, who have refused to conform to societal templates,
and whether we will stand up for them in the same way.

In the very same newspapers that have now shown us every angle of Semenya’s
face, her facial hair, her crotch, her braided hair and her muscular body
(whenever before has a woman athlete featured so prominently on the front
page of any newspaper?), we have the obligatory blonde, blue-eyed, skinny
pin-up girls from Planet Hollywood pasted on back pages.

On the same page heralding Semenya’s red-carpet welcome on Tuesday, one
paper reported on Miss South Africa, Tatum Keshwar, saying she hopes she has
done the nation proud by being selected seventh in the Miss Universe
contest.

So now its official: women come in all shapes and forms. Why is that
important? Because although sex is a biological given (though even that, we
have learned, is far from straightforward), gender is a social construct:
how society expects women and men to behave.

Precisely because girls are expected to be pretty faces with limited
strength and thinking capacity, they retreat or are forced to retreat from
sport, from public life, from hard beats in the media, from boardrooms and
management, from entrepreneurship and jobs such as mining and security.

Stereotypes also limit men: they should not cry, feel, care or engage in
“women’s work”. In the past several years we have been running a course
called Business Unusual in different parts of Southern Africa.

In Tanzania we found Masai men making money by using their skill in braiding
hair to run salons in a local market, describing how, by challenging their
socialisation, they are doing a rip-roaring trade. Bravo to them.

Will women in South Africa, come the World Cup in 2010, get to play the
game, drive taxis and build highways? If we fail to use this extraordinary
event to breathe life into the celebration of diversity envisaged in the
Constitution, our large turnout at Oliver Tambo Airport this week will have
been little more than a fleeting show of national unity.

We will have raised a middle finger to the rest of the world but retreated
into our cocoon of black and white, male and female -- not the rainbow
nation we claim to be. Unlike Marco, we will still not have found our true
selves.

*Colleen Lowe Morna is executive director of Gender Links.*

*Source: Mail  Guardian Online
Web Address:
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2009-08-31-we-celebrate-otherness-today *



g_b Fwd: Feminine masculinities, masculine femininities (on Caster Semenya)

2009-09-01 Thread Aditya Bondyopadhyay
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2009-08-31-feminine-masculinities-masculine-femininities

 Feminine masculinities, masculine femininities ANTJE SCHUHMANN: COMMENT -
Aug 31 2009 06:00

Politicians, the public, family and friends have for days been expressing
their unconditional support for “golden girl” Caster Semenya -- and this
would be fabulous if it were truly unconditional. But is it?

With a surprising disregard for Semenya’s nonconforming gender performance
-- after all, women in South Africa have been violated simply for wearing
pants -- the patriotic support she is receiving is based on clearly
reinforcing her sex as female: “She is a woman”, “I bathed with her, I
know”, “She is beautiful”, “She is our first lady of sport” and so on.

Feminine masculinities and masculine femininities are not normally
celebrated so overtly. On the contrary, women looking, dressing and moving
like Semenya are often the targets of hate crimes, “curative” rape and
homophobia.

Women who don’t buy into gender-stereotypical behaviour are often violently
“reminded” of who they are supposed to be. It is Semenya’s nonconformity
that the Young Communist League is conveniently forgetting when it calls her
sex testing racist.

After all, Serena and Venus Williams have never been similarly tested --
because they are Americans. But, unlike them, Semenya does not run across
tennis courts in miniskirts and have a prominent cleavage.

In not acknowledging the Williams sisters’ gender conformity, this
particular critique of racism silences the uncomfortable fact of Semenya’s
transgender performance.

The constant reiteration that she is a woman, and support for her that
assumes her treatment is unfair to a woman (rather than unfair to anyone,
whatever their sex and gender identity), reinforces the same binary that is
the cause of the problem: men have to be men and women have to be women.

Looks, clothes, gestures, hormones, hairstyle, physiognomy, movement, voice,
chromosomes, psychology, attitudes --all these are seen to divide us, yet
we’re supposedly equal.

Do we all know our chromosome status and testosterone levels (maybe some are
in for a surprise)? What about those born with ambivalent genitals who are
raised female, undergo surgery and become male? And what is it that makes a
woman a woman? Is it the ability to give birth? If so, after menopause, am I
a woman no longer? Why do we need to be sure about someone’s sex at all? Why
do we need to have our biologically allocated sex in sync with our gender
performance?

While we are celebrating Semenya’s achievement, why aren’t we doing so on
the grounds that she -- as all of us -- could be found to be anything and
everything?

And why are her supporters not stating clearly that she will be a South
African celebrity whatever the outcome of her sex test? What will a result
suggesting she is not “entirely female” represent for her supporters? Will
they stand by her side and make sure she does not have to give back the
medal?

Sex tests have strong ideological undertones. During the Cold War it was the
Eastern Bloc that was suspected of “cheating”; now Western newspapers report
that it is particularly Third World countries that send men disguised as
women to international sports competitions.

The point is not merely that athletes from the First World are not also
subjected to sex tests. It is rather that, given the history of slavery and
colonialism, the exposure of a black woman’s body has a very specific
context.

In the sensationalism of Western media discussing the “Bantu as often being
hermaphrodites” and in the echo here of Sarah Baartman being exhibited at
fairs and her genitals being dissected after her death, we recognise a
painful “herstory”.

This is a history at the intersections of racism and sexism, buoyed up by
science and public spectatorship, that is re-emerging right now in front of
us. No person, black or white, should be subjected to the investigation
Semenya has undergone.

A narrow understanding of the diversity within femininities and
masculinities haunts both South Africa and the world.

For our country, this moment must make us measure our progress on the
constitutional imperatives of freedom, equality and dignity for all.

And it is an opportunity to question how truly we are willing and able to
engage and embrace difference.

*Antje Schuhmann is a senior lecturer in Wits University’s politics
department*

*Source: Mail  Guardian Online
Web Address:
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2009-08-31-feminine-masculinities-masculine-femininities
*



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