Re: g_b You are the light of the world

2014-11-29 Thread Dimuth Akmeemana dimuthakmeem...@yahoo.com [gay_bombay]
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 On Friday, November 28, 2014 8:33 AM, dunn...@yahoo.com [gay_bombay] 
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      We all have challenges but we make them better or worse by the way we 
talk about them. - Joyce Meyer (Choice @ OM)


Quoting Zig Ziglar, It's not what happens to you that matters. It's how you 
respond to what happens to you that makes a difference.


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If we want to truly change the world, we cannot do it from the outside. Change 
must come from within. - Neale Donald Walsch (Change @ OM)


Quoting him, Change the self and your inner world changes. And when your inner 
world changes, the outer world that you touch changes, little by little.


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You are the light of the world. Shine, and darkness will disappear. - Paulo 
Coelho (Be the change @ OM)


You are the change you want to see in the world.


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There were many dark moments when my faith in humanity was sorely tested, but I 
would not and could not give myself up to despair. That way lays defeat and 
death.


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Re: g_b remember sections 388 and 389 IPC

2014-11-29 Thread Aditya adit.b...@gmail.com [gay_bombay]
Hi Bloot,
Vikram Doctor wrote this, not me!!


Thank you  Best Regards,
आधन्यवाद तथा आपको प्रणाम,


Aditya Bondyopadhyay
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(मेरे आईफ़ोन/आईपैड से भेजा गया)


 On 26-Nov-2014, at 10:38 am, Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in 
 [gay_bombay] gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Aditya, you are brilliant!


 On Monday, 24 November 2014 12:12 PM, Vikram D vg...@yahoo.co.uk 
 [gay_bombay] gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com wrote:



 When the Supreme Court upheld Section 377 one of the immediate reactions was 
 that this was a shocking case of the court empowering blackmailers. 
 Throughout its history S.377 - and similar laws across the world - has been 
 used extremely successfully to extort money from gay men who are too scared 
 of prosecution under the law to fight back.

 This is exactly what we are now seeing. From across the country cases are 
 coming of queer people being blackmailed or harassed by threat or sometimes 
 the actual use of S.377. Just today I have heard the most startling case 
 where a businessman gave Rs10 lakhs because he got a letter saying that the 
 person sending it had video evidence of him having sex with other men.

 One reaction that such stories sometimes get is that people who give in to 
 blackmail deserve what they get - that (a) they should not have been stupid 
 enough to get into the situation in the first place and (b) they should not 
 give in, but call the blackmailer's bluff. Blackmail depends on the victim 
 being afraid, and if you are not, it can't work.

 But saying this doesn't allow for the extreme loneliness that drives people 
 to take risks, and yes, stupid risks too at times. Yes, you should be careful 
 who you pick up and where and what you do, but its always easier to say this 
 in hindsight. And it is also easy to be courageous when its not happening to 
 you. When you are the one who opens an email or letter and finds not just the 
 threat of your privacy being exposed, but the knowledge that someone is 
 malign enough to want to do it, you can feel the bottom falling out of your 
 world.

 This still does not mean one should give in to blackmail. It may be tempting 
 to just give the money and hope it all goes away, but it never does. 
 Blackmail is an addiction, and quite lucrative too, and blackmailers very 
 often repeatedly keep coming back for more. And even if they don't the victim 
 is always afraid that they, or someone else, will.

 So if this situation happens to you, or to someone you know, the first thing 
 to tell them is to find a way not to be afraid. If they have family from who 
 they fear exposure, they should ask themselves one hard fact - in the long 
 run will the family mind more that one of them is gay or that he is giving 
 away Rs10 lakhs, and probably even more over time. Whatever people might feel 
 about homosexuality, they usually don't want to lose a lot of money!

 The second thing to tell yourself, or them, is that S.377 is not easy to 
 prosecute. This is why the police actually does not use it very much, but 
 prefers to use the threat of it, or more easily implementable and vague laws 
 like 'obscene conduct' in public or drinking without a permit (which is what 
 most people who are arrested at parties are usually prosecuted under, which 
 is why responsible party goers get permits, and party organisers arrange for 
 them).

 Proving S.377 without a doubt really requires a medical examination and this 
 is not going to be easy to organise. Video evidence might count too - though 
 of course there are all the arguments about video being tampered with which 
 politicians routinely trot out! But this is one good argument not to record 
 yourself having sex, however much this turns you on! At least one S.377 case 
 which has been going on for a while involves recording that a husband made 
 with his male lover which his wife got her hands on.

 And finally, we actually have protection from the same source that threatens 
 us - the Indian Penal Code. Buried away in IPC are two sections, S.388 and 
 S.389 which state that attempt to blackmail using sections of IPC as a 
 threat, is as much of a crime as going against those sections of IPC! This 
 perhaps recalls some residual wisdom among people, like Lord Macauley who 
 drew up IPC, that the law can be misused and it is best to provide remedy 
 against it.

 This is what Sections 388 and 389 do, and they specifically mention S.377. 
 S.388 says that whoever extorts money by putting someone in fear of being 
 accused of a grave crime is liable to be punished severely, and S.389 says 
 that whoever even threatens someone with a view to extortion, will be 
 punished severely, and both of them end by saying and, if the offence be 
 punishable under section 377 of this Code, may be punished with 
 1[imprison­ment for life].

 It is really quite remarkable and worth reading:
 Section 388 in The Indian Penal Code
 Section 389 in The