Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Biener
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Marek Polacek pola...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:23:29AM +0200, Marek Polacek wrote: The consensus seems to be to go forward with this change. I will commit the patch in 24 hours unless I hear objections. I made the change. Please report

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-16 Thread Andrew Pinski
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Marek Polacek pola...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:23:29AM +0200, Marek Polacek wrote: The consensus seems to be to go forward with this change. I will commit the patch in 24 hours unless I hear objections. I made the change. Please report

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-16 Thread Andrew Pinski
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Andrew Pinski pins...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Marek Polacek pola...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:23:29AM +0200, Marek Polacek wrote: The consensus seems to be to go forward with this change. I will commit the patch in

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-15 Thread Marek Polacek
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:23:29AM +0200, Marek Polacek wrote: The consensus seems to be to go forward with this change. I will commit the patch in 24 hours unless I hear objections. I made the change. Please report any fallout to me. Enjoy. Marek

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-14 Thread Marek Polacek
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:07:56PM +0200, Marek Polacek wrote: I'd like to kick off a discussion about moving the default standard for C from gnu89 to gnu11. The consensus seems to be to go forward with this change. I will commit the patch in 24 hours unless I hear objections. Thanks,

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-10 Thread Marek Polacek
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 02:34:51PM -0700, Mike Stump wrote: On Oct 7, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Marek Polacek pola...@redhat.com wrote: I'd like to kick off a discussion about moving the default standard for C from gnu89 to gnu11. I endorse the change of default. Thanks for chiming in. A wiki

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-09 Thread Marek Polacek
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 08:39:40PM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: I like it. And one could reasonably argue that now is the time to change since that maximizes the time for folks to find broken code. Yep, this is definitely stage1 stuff. We still have a few weeks, but I wouldn't want to rush such a

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-09 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 08.10.2014 um 09:16 schrieb Richard Biener: On Tue, 7 Oct 2014, Marek Polacek wrote: I think it makes sense to do this (and I expect C++ will follow with defaulting to -std=c++11 once the ABI stuff has settled). Of course it would be nice to look at the actual fallout in a

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-09 Thread Jason Merrill
On 10/09/2014 08:45 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: What happened to the plans to stabilize the libstdc++ c++11 ABI? Is this still a target for GCC 5? Yes. Jason

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-09 Thread Joseph S. Myers
On Thu, 9 Oct 2014, Marek Polacek wrote: On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 08:39:40PM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: I like it. And one could reasonably argue that now is the time to change since that maximizes the time for folks to find broken code. Yep, this is definitely stage1 stuff. We still have a

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-09 Thread Mike Stump
On Oct 7, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Marek Polacek pola...@redhat.com wrote: I'd like to kick off a discussion about moving the default standard for C from gnu89 to gnu11. I endorse the change of default. The things I had to fix in the testsuite nicely reflect what we can expect in the real life: A

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-08 Thread Richard Biener
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014, Marek Polacek wrote: Hi! I'd like to kick off a discussion about moving the default standard for C from gnu89 to gnu11. This really shouldn't be much of a surprise: the docs mention that gnu11 is intended future default for a year now. I would presume now is a good

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-08 Thread Marek Polacek
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 09:16:18AM +0200, Richard Biener wrote: I think it makes sense to do this (and I expect C++ will follow with defaulting to -std=c++11 once the ABI stuff has settled). Thanks. Moving to -std=c++11 would be cool! Of course it would be nice to look at the actual fallout

Re: Towards GNU11

2014-10-08 Thread Jeff Law
On 10/07/14 15:07, Marek Polacek wrote: Hi! I'd like to kick off a discussion about moving the default standard for C from gnu89 to gnu11. This really shouldn't be much of a surprise: the docs mention that gnu11 is intended future default for a year now. I would presume now is a good time to

Towards GNU11

2014-10-07 Thread Marek Polacek
Hi! I'd like to kick off a discussion about moving the default standard for C from gnu89 to gnu11. This really shouldn't be much of a surprise: the docs mention that gnu11 is intended future default for a year now. I would presume now is a good time to make this move: together with the new