Re: [gdmxml] Re: GDM vs. GEDCOM 6.0
Hello all, I know less about the Genealogical Data Model than some of you do, but I can see another set of differences. GEDCOM and any XML representation of it is designed to store the information in what you might call a "family file", or the kind of information that is typically captured by any one of a number of genealogical data storage programs on the market. GEDCOM's, and presumably XML representations of them, are in general highly structured files, with an exception for notes and a few other things where there is much more in the way of free text. The GENTECH data model, as I understand it, could perhaps be applied to what I consider to be unstructured data, or free form text. Hans is this year's GENTECH Scholar, and this is his scholarship project. I was one of the two GENTECH Scholars last year, and would have benefitted from the work Hans is doing had our projects been reversed in order. I am tagging unstructured documents (narratives, etc.) with some basic tags such as names, dates and places. I presented my project at GENTECH 2002, and also at the Family History Workshop at BYU. It is my belief that the outcome of Hans's project will be an XML representation (be it DTD or schema or whatever) that could be used to tag the same unstructured documents that I am now working with. His project is creation of the XML representation; my project was the use of Natural Language Processing techniques to tag unstructured documents with SGML or XML tags in order to facilitate extraction of genealogical information from those documents. Because there was no set of appropriate tags already in existence, I made up my own. I think my project would have been a lot better had Hans's XML representation been available to me at the time. So, I look forward to the outcome of this project, in the hope that I can one day make use of it. I am also subscribed to the GenealogyXML list that Michael contributes heavily to, but mostly sit quietly in the background. -- Mary D. Taffet Syracuse University Ph.D. Student/School of Information Studies Research Analyst/Center for Natural Language Processing 4-230 Center for Science & Technology Syracuse, NY 13244-4100 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://web.syr.edu/~mdtaffet/ ___ gdmxml mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fugal.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gdmxml
Re: [gdmxml] Re: GDM vs. GEDCOM 6.0
Thanks Randy, that is an excellent summary. * Randy Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Mon, 3 Jun 2002 at 11:58 -0600] > Thanks for the pointer to the GEDCOM 6.0/XML document. I had heard that the LDS >church was planning to create an XML standard for GEDCOM, but I hadn't seen it yet. >The difference is that they are doing an XML version of GEDCOM, while Hans is doing a >XML version of the Genealogical Data Model (GDM). > > The GDM is based on storing raw data, making assertions based on that data, making >higher-level assertions based on those, etc., in order to form conclusions based on >lower-level information or logic. Each piece of data or assertion carries with it an >audit trail to show exactly where it came from. GEDCOM, on the other hand, simply >stores the final conclusions, possibly with one or more source citations (e.g., a >book and page number, if you're lucky). That is a much larger leap, and makes it >extremely difficult to verify what others have done (i.e., you would usually have to >go to the library and look the page up, and then read through the page to find the >sentence containing information about the person). > > --Randy Wilson > > >>> Lars Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/03/02 11:01AM >>> > Newbie from UUG here... > > How does this project differ from the GEDCOM 6.0 project from the Mormon > church? (They're creating an XML DTD so that GEDCOM files can ge > migrated to XML.) > > More info: > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/FAQ/frameset_faq.asp?FAQ=faq_gedcom.asp > > > ___ > gdmxml mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://fugal.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gdmxml > > > ___ > gdmxml mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://fugal.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gdmxml -- "Everybody is talking about the weather but nobody does anything about it." -- Mark Twain ___ gdmxml mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fugal.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gdmxml
[gdmxml] Re: GDM vs. GEDCOM 6.0
Thanks for the pointer to the GEDCOM 6.0/XML document. I had heard that the LDS church was planning to create an XML standard for GEDCOM, but I hadn't seen it yet. The difference is that they are doing an XML version of GEDCOM, while Hans is doing a XML version of the Genealogical Data Model (GDM). The GDM is based on storing raw data, making assertions based on that data, making higher-level assertions based on those, etc., in order to form conclusions based on lower-level information or logic. Each piece of data or assertion carries with it an audit trail to show exactly where it came from. GEDCOM, on the other hand, simply stores the final conclusions, possibly with one or more source citations (e.g., a book and page number, if you're lucky). That is a much larger leap, and makes it extremely difficult to verify what others have done (i.e., you would usually have to go to the library and look the page up, and then read through the page to find the sentence containing information about the person). --Randy Wilson >>> Lars Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/03/02 11:01AM >>> Newbie from UUG here... How does this project differ from the GEDCOM 6.0 project from the Mormon church? (They're creating an XML DTD so that GEDCOM files can ge migrated to XML.) More info: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/FAQ/frameset_faq.asp?FAQ=faq_gedcom.asp ___ gdmxml mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fugal.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gdmxml ___ gdmxml mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fugal.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gdmxml
